i don't want to condone behaviour of spoilt ignorant brats , that's why Gemma left too , so same goes for Stephanie

Agreed. I know the poll here is just straw..but with the lead Tiff has here..? I really hope it plays out, as she deserves it. It would be 2 deserving different American housemates who nobody - especially the HMs - expected to win when it started and in those early days..but just kept strong, were entertaining, amusing, relatively consistent and funny as hell in the dairy room.

Tiff all the way..Might even break my own rule and accidentally dial a few times before Friday.

He certainly isn't normal.

I'd LOVE him to win, he's been my favourite from the start. However, my prediction is that he will come third. (Tiffany 1st, Stephanie 2nd).
Cannot understand where the support for Stephanie is coming from after how she's behaved but there you go, maybe she will have a bad final 24hrs and show her true colours. Just think, after tomorrow we won't have to listen to that fake laugh again......

Why is normal used as a compliment?

What's wrong with being abnormal?

Yes it's all panto, but we get few enough real celeb's on BB as it is..................I wish them luck trying to sign up proper celeb's when they can see how they are treated. John's personality has been almost annihalated for the whole series. Personally I just don't want to watch RTV stars on BB, they are just all fake and scripted.

I think for me this will be the end of BB.............dire scripted B/sh. If I wanted to watch RTV personalities I would just watch their crappy shows, I never have and never will.

Yes I heard that sob story, don't believe a word of it.

Well of course, I believe his mum has dementia. But he's in BB for the same reason as the others
Me me me me me

It surprises me anyone doesn't realise that, but he does have some loyal fans
Soap watchers and people who like musical theatre mainly.

Well said! What with this and now Scotty T's "mate" trying to fix the vote I feel it is time to give up. It isn't a level playing field IMO.

You summed it up in the first line with one word - panto.

Even civilian BB is not devoid of it anymore..but Celeb doesn't bother making the effort to make it seem credible. Always been the case with CBB..just not sure which of two (this one, and Gary Busey's..who I loved as a winner) was the least..or most..transparent.

Even the bit of saying John's personality has been destroyed. It's the entire panto performance - once each HM comes out it's a case of that circus sound, a big grin with arms open wide to the sound of "Ta..dahhhh"

Then onto Bots, some media bits and back to work they go, with the press and public alike caring not 2 jots within a week of it finishing. Short of humongously stupid - like Winston, or those who have say groped a HM and been evicted..the rest of the show and how they play their parts makes not an iota of difference to anything.

The winner is no more likely to be successful than the first one out - and vice versa...certainly with CBB. But that is a truth that has always held stock when you consider how fortunes have either taken off or bombed for reasons completely unconnected to the show.

He seems entirely normal to me - grown up, hard-working, very disciplined, and someone who, for all those ^ reasons, needs order in order to function well.

His low tolerance for made-for-RTV drama (as delivered by eg. the entirely selfish Stephanie) is entirely understandable.

Tweet from Big Brother:

Big Brother Live ‏@BBUKLive 1h1 hour ago
5.50pm: @mustbejp: "I'm not sure I can do the final"
@DarrenDOfficial: "I didn't think I could eat all that lemon tart but I did" #BBUKLive

Don't you realise they are paid a great deal of money? No rehearsals, learning lines, just living in a house.

It's easy money.

He's also one of the few that actually has other work booked.

first thing he did on phone call with his sister was ask how his mum was
You know better do you about his mother's illness ?
What a condescending thing to say

The point is that with every series we get less real celeb's and more RTV trash, if you like the RTV trash then fine you can fill your boots ( not you personally btw) but some of us like to watch real celeb's ( or at least credible ones that will fit the fee) and just cant be arsed with all the crappy nonsense that RTV stars bring to the show.

I don't care to know how many women Scotty has shagged nor how loud Tiff's vagina is screaming, I dont want to know any of this shit, and with each series less and less celeb's are willing to put themselves in there..................there has to be a reason and in my view being torn to shreds by edits is one of them.

Yes, I noticed that too. That's when he became my fave to win.

i'd only associate abnormal wtih psychopaths and those who commit serious crime

His effusive joy at at being in the final..was only overshadowed I thought by Daniella's. Not 'keen' on most of them as people (exception being Tiff), but as a group would be a shame for anyone to divebomb before the final.

Hopefully just a momentary mental/verbal crack that repairs as quick (?) as it formed.

I don't think John deserves to win. He is entertaining in an insincere, uncomfortable and controlling way. Yes, I think her has a nice side. But that is on his terms...

in your opinion

He is a nice bloke isn't he.

Well, perhaps the least hateful....that's about as good as it gets, with these finalists.

I don't know what's more disheartening. To see him assassinated on the edits or see his odds lengthen so dramatically these past couple of days.

John has his flaws but does not deserve what BB have done to him. They've got thier villian and BB have chosen their top3.

I absolutely agree. When reality stars numbered few in the house, it didn't overly offset the balance, nor make it feel as you allude to being little more than a home from home kind of show which is so heavily populated by that type/genre of 'celeb.'

I'd sooner have even lesser known people in the fame peripheral circles, representing a full array of all the talents and arts..and still maybe one or two at most from reality shows. Maybe none at all..lol.

Don't you think John had a big part to play in all of this?

This is what I too would like to see, alas it has gone too far down the line and will just get worse each series. I think I may finally be over BB.