Even more reason for Tiffany to win
She didn't break down bawling her eyes out
Her mother not only looked like Tiffany , but no cr*p breakdowns , just YOU GO GIRL wtte

Seeing the show for what it is , pantomime and a competition

Tiffany should win this but with the dubious voting scam via the Geordie Shore lot it may not happen

VOTE FOR TIFFANY TO WIN

John should come next and wouldn't mind him winning either.
If he broke down that much seeing his niece, he'd have been on the floor had he seen his husband
he wears his heart on his sleeve, nice man
so i wouldn't mind if he won

But she's been giving fake over dramatic reactions all series. Why should she win the show because she refrained? For once.

because she's been an entertaining HM

Tiffany was lovely to John when he was peed off with Stephanie
She's got a good heart
Like her even more now

doesn't anyone still want Tiffany to win ?

Sister Patterson is even funnier than Tiff. The two of them together cause havoc!

Tiff to win! I'm.not sure what this thread is referring to. I feel like I missed a bit of the show or something lol

Happened during the 8pm live from the house show. Tiffany's Mum was on the phone from America, whilst the other friends and family were in the house.

it was the family and friends with Rylan live in the house earlier, the HMs were sat in the garden , the usual thing they do near the end and Tiffanys representative was her mum on the phone, all the others had reps in the house, they all gave a few seconds of messages and support to their HM, and Tiffany's mum was just frank and fun really

Tiffany was only HM who didn't really breakdown in tears and fall apart, Scotty kept it together as well..

Thanks Jimmy & Jack. Going to have to watch it on demand I missed it

She's been the best HM.

Yuck.

I agree about Tiff, she was measured and behaved with dignity. A very reasonable reaction to talking to someone you spoke to a few weeks ago,

I don't agree about John, who wails like a banshee.
A man who didn't cry at his fathers funeral as he pointed out when he was accusing gemma of "making him cry".
He's howled at his husband and now the sight of his niece
Big chancer

He's as bad as Steph.

For the sake of balance I have to say that when Tiff is faking it, she is quite clear she is faking it, she jacks it up to huge proportions and then is over it in a nano second

She reacted naturally to her mum.

Fair play to her.

that's not fair
Emotion doesn't work like that

When my grandfather died I didn't cry , not straight away
When my dog died I was bawling my eyes out
Doesn't mean a thing.
it depends too on if your loved one has suffered til the end, as sometimes it is a relief for them that you feel when they do go, if they were in any pain, so we don't know why John didn't cry and what a thing to judge him on

Jack, it's not about him not crying at his dad's funeral, I wouldn't dream of making an assessment based on that.

It's that he has turned on the tears in that house.
And it was HIM who stressed how serious him crying is because "I didnt even cry at my fathers funeral".
He's a big phoney IMO.

Emotions you get when a loved one dies is completely different , it's sadness to the extreme

Crying because you're missing someone you love or because he's been pushed to the limit by another HM or he's just overtired and emotional is a different emotion

, that's what he meant, albeit rather flippantly

Yes I understand your point, and I concur that one might sob over a budgie and not cry at the death of a parent, it's not an indication of depth of feeling.

But it was John whomused his not crying at his dad's funeral as a measure, not me.
And that's only one reason I don't like him.

You appreciate Tiff was perfectly natural with her mum, no dramatics.
Yet you also admire what I see as johns dramatics, so that's a contradiction for me.
But I respect that you don't see it that way.

I explained why John may have mentioned not having cried at his Dad's funeral, it's just his way of explaining it, you see that as dramatics ? wtf.
how can you possibly compare my views about John and Tiffany ? and my views are not a contradiction.

and I did NOT say I ADMIRE John either, dont twist what I said.

Ok, I've been as reasonable as one might expect here
Im done
Goodnight.

Wasn't that Tiffany's Dad in a wig and make-up..

Tiffany to win!!!

Yes, of course