A lot of people seem to have serious gang ups about sex. Sex isn't bad and it isn't bad for adults to talk about it and it's so sad to see how people are so juvenile and prudish when they encounter this.

That said, Tiffany is quite fake and a crushing bore.

LOL

And once Gemma had explained thier value in GB, she loves making those hot beverages doesn't she!

You might want to rethink "gang ups!"

Freud would have a field day.

If don't like what she says, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are deeply offended.

It is obvious that the only way Tiffany can get attention is by using sex and sexuality to get her a second look, imo everything about her is cheap and nasty. She is skanky enough to win CBB, normal people rarely win.

I find that her way of expressing herself is highly amusing and saying she needs to be penetrated is much better than the vernacular 'I need a f***k!'

Jeez, some people should be prone to watch The Powerpuff Girls or some other cartoon.

This is Big Brother. Sexual talk has been part of it for 16 years, I guess you all forget how sexual frustrated those in BB1 were? If you are offended by sex talk or stuff Tiffany says, maybe people should read that long warning message that comes up every day before the show starts?

You are warned repeatedly about what the show contains, if you can't take it, don't watch it. They warn you numerous times.... people who carry on to watch despite the warning, and then complain...what do you think that will achieve?

I have no idea how people on here nowadays would have been able to watch BB6, some people here would faint in shock at the stuff they did and said.

Man finds distaste in something sexual a woman says/does = SEXIST
Woman finds distaste in something sexual a woman says/does = INTERNALIZED SEXIST

Please!!! You don't have to be sexist in any way shape or form to be disgusted by behavior such as Tiff's.

Her being a thoroughly classless individual in both her words and her deeds does not make others sexist, internally or otherwise, it does however leave many with the opinion - If it talks like a s**t and acts like a s**t chances are it is a s**t and that's nothing to be applauded or defended by either gender.

Totally agree with this post.
Why this sudden shock at overt sexual talk from Tiff when it has been a regular staple of BB since its inception ? Really baffled by some of the posts in this forum .
Kinga

Well anyone watching BB OR CBB expecting classy behaviour are delusional .
I personally am not keen on overt explicit sexual behaviour but it's a part of the programme so it would be ridiculous to complain or expect otherwise.
Tiffany has played a blinder here. Hope she wins.

i adore her

People are calling her all sorts of revolting, pathetic, slags. They are most offended.

There are MANY factors at play here. Yes, too many people have serious hang ups about sex. More have hang ups about female sexuality and how it ought to be, whether they want to admit it or not. yes, it is possible to dislike what people say just because of the content, but let's face it - it is not hard to deduce that a lot of the people who have an issue with Tiffany's comments, have a problem because of unconscious or conscious ideas about how a woman should behave as it pertains to sex. Nobody can convince me of anything different here. Sexism is most definitely a factor at play here. The fact that slut-shaming words such as slag have been used supports that too.

Exactly. People don't like that she highlights this within them. Everything is a reflection, so what is it about Tiffany that these people don't like her showing them about themselves? People have serious hang ups about sex, unfortunately. Female sexuality specifically. It is so boring.

Typo of the day, I love that!

LOL. I don't know what the hell is wrong with my fingers recently. There used to be a time when I could type six lengthy paragraphs without a single typo. But it seems my fingers are all worn out from all the penetration they partake in lmao :P

I just find her so damn funny. She is so unbelievably explicit that you just can't help but laugh. She really deserves to win, simply because she's the only one in the there who has consistently entertained me.

I agree. You could also look at it this way - if everyone accepted people being so blunt about sex, then the things that she says would no longer be explicit, and thus lose humor. So you kind of have to appreciate that society has its hang ups about the things that it does. The fact that she is so nonchalant about breaking social norms is a part of what makes her so ****ing hilarious!!

Ha ha!

BIB 1 - A few people have done that.

BIB 2 - No one would deny that it is a factor, but it's very wrong - many would say offensive - to label any forum member who finds Tiffany less than hilarious sexist.

Did I say that everyone has done it? Nope.

Did I say that anyone who did not find Tiff's comments hilarious was sexist? Nope. Another one who has chronic I-want-to-be-offended syndrome, and reads into things what they want to take out of it. I believe some of the views are sexist. That is what I think, so I am going to say it. We grow up in thick social conditioning, which means we all have a lot of programming which does not truly belong to us. Our views are filtered through those lenses most of the time, yet many people are not aware of this. They think they dislike Tiff's comments because they are vulgar, but in many cases it is the fact that she is a female who is deemed to be acting in a vulgar way that bothers them. Sexism is at play for sure. I don't know how many more ways I can explain my point, or if I even want to to people who are comitted to misunderstanding and becoming offended

Either way, I know what you are getting at - that people can simply dislike what other people have to say without being offended or sexist. But on this forum, some of the people who don't like her comments have expressed deep offense at the hands of Tiff, and the unlying sexism that causes them to be offended is clear to read, hence the use of words like slag.

BIB - This much I didn't deny.

But, you know, people, perhaps especially intelligent, educated people don't like being told what they really think or feel.

I can only state my opinion on this forum, as far as what I see. People will and are entitled to take it however they want, as I have absolutely no control over that part. They are entitled to disagree, as people will always have different perspectives. I know that many people are not conscious of their programming a lot of the time. Some people are. There is no judgement in that. It is just how it is. I don't think that pointing that out to people should be this big thing. There is such a thing as internalized sexism, where people are not even aware that the thoughts they are thinking are due to societal programming. They think the thoughts and views are their own. They think that because they were raised a certain way, then that must be how things should be without ever really questioning it. If you see sexism, why not challenge it? I say challenge it and give people the opportunity to look at things from a new perspective.

ETA: Even inteligent and educated people are susceptible to programming. They are also capable of sexism, racism, classism etc... Inteligent and educated people can be wrong too/misinformed/unaware. If someone points something out, one can look at it and decide whether or not that is on board with what one thinks or feels. That person can say that it is not on board with what they think or feel, but the person who has pointed it out can still be rock solid and adamant in their views about what they have pointed out. Sometimes you just know things. Other times, you are unsure. In the end both parties can agree to disagree.

This EXACTLY. Where is the line (why does there have to be a line)

What difference is there between someone saying I'm Hungry to "I Need to Get my Cooch Pounded"?

Hehehe. You get my meaning :P

I think everything Tiff says of this nature is done for maximum effect !

I think she's hilarious !

My issues over double standards have always been over the excuses made for her, she is American she doesn't know what uk viewers think here or want to see although it's hilarious.

No issue with any of that yet there was a thread slagging Steph about shaving her bits saying it was disgusting .

I shudder to think how this forum would have reacted if steph or Megan had said they want to be penetrated I am sure it would have been hilarious as well. Yeah right