Thank you gelefsy. We have had our differences over who we liked in the past, but for you all to see what we John fans have been saying for some time is like a breath of fresh air.

Whether you like John or not, it is so obvious how they have treated him. It is disgraceful to be honest, and is difficult to see especially when you like that particular HM.

I'm away so missed this week but I like John based on what I have seen. I think he is quite honest and suffers from speaking before engaging brain. I think he has a lot more to him than we have seen and I think he has suffered from the edit.

I also like Steph for similarish reasons.

I really don't like Daniella because I think she is hard and judgemental. I don't like that in anybody but she more than most should have some tolerance and kindness for people who make mistakes.

John and Steph are my top two. Tiffany is a slightly reluctant third just because she is funny although batshit crazy. Disappointed by Darren, I would have liked to see him stick up for himself and others a bit more although he is a close contender for third.

I despise Scotty T and Daniella.

This has been the case over and over. John leads and they follow. That isn't manioualtion that's inspiration. If, after, they kick themselves for following, that's their problem. As is peoples reading of him as manipulative - it isn't. It's influential. And I totally respect him. If you follow you are responsible for following. Leaders merely offer a choice.
Pah.

I'm so furious I'm actually voting. Then I may never watch this again.
The producers are children.

Is anyone else bracing themselves for BOTS tonight? I believe GC is on the panel....................the mind boggles at what more they can possibly throw at John.

I'm almost expecting someone to have dug up a story of how he kicks kittens and beats up old ladies.

They should of let the snake walk, it wasn't ALL about him, there were other HMs involved and they didn't act as childish as him.

I'm not a great fan of John - as a housemate I must stress, but that tonight was disgusting. I know Gemma has gone but when I think of the pandering to her and how they treated John tonight it was disgusting. When Steph was doing her task and he had been pushed to the limit they should have realised and pulled back. I think, like John, I'm done with BB now.

I felt really sorry for him tonight. Undeserved imo.

Then I witness Stephanie declaring that basically her and Sam were over before she entered the house. How odd, when a little over a week or so give or take a day or two she wanted to marry him. You couldn't make it up.

I'm not watching.

Agree

Yes it is disgraceful. I think that John will regret going in the house for a long time to come but hope that getting his fee for his Mum will be some comfort to him. He is the nicest person in there and to see him so deflated is really really sad.

He looks like a broken man So well done producers as it has been so very obvious from the get go that this was your intention and they really should be ashamed of themselves.

This is my last BB, having watched from it's inception I can only say that C5's version are only a shadow of what it used to be. It now just makes me sick to my stomach.

Oh you are joking!! John's ok, he can't watch BBOTS. After seeing his niece tonight I think I feel more sorry for his poor family. I'm fuming and I don't even know him

Yes Scotty is childish - I wasn't ever aware that he wanted to walk though.

Have a word with yourself and .....it's should have not should of.

This series is the first time I have watched for a couple of years as I usually just come onto the forums. I am disgusted at the treatment of John and would be if it happened to any other HM in there as well. He does look broken, it is so sad.

I will not be watching BB any more, they are a disgrace.

I was going to make the same point haha

Haha it didn't even register with you did it ?

[quote=BlueStreak;81398794]I felt really sorry for him tonight. Undeserved imo.

Then I witness Stephanie declaring that basically her and Sam were over before she entered the house. How odd, when a little over a week or so give or take a day or two she wanted to marry him. You couldn't make it up.

agree didn't like the way bb focused on him in a bad way tonight

If I had been in the house watching Steph throw milk all over the place I would have been a lot less refrained than John

I good not be more disgusted, Vanessa was a right bitch and when somebody in the audience tried to defend John she cut him off. Megan the bitch standing there laughing was even more disgusting! BB has messed with johns head all the way through, giving all the other tasks to make them look good and him bad constantly! All this business of him taking the flak over Tiff, he was not the only one that voiced his opinion, Danniella and Gemma spoke out too! I am so damn sick of John being the scapegoat and I have decided I must be some idiot for watching this rubbish now!

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This,
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Thing is, I don't think Steph was acting..........that's the kind of behaviour I've come to expect from her. She'd drive me to the extreme I'm afraid.

Even though it was a task (which John didn't know of course) I think that was the straw that broke the camels back for him. Can't say I blame him either. He looked so deflated.

It is just so wrong isn't Darcy, just so wrong.

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Steph just showed us just how manipulative she is, telling them all in the press conference that Sam broke her heart when he cheated on her, so why did she want to marry him then and confessed her dying love for him for over 2 weeks in the house. She is some little actress isn't she? I can't stand the girl!

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Some are saying it is damage limitation, it's not it is just plain lies,lol.

The guy annoys parts of me I don't have, especially since going with the stupid act of an American accent, and the enunciated "Girrlll" when talking to Tiff (who deserves to win hands up, sitting down..in any position possible for me )

BUT..

...like revolver44 said, that was just a hatchet job, not nice and more than 'just a bit' shitty. I did feel for him, despite finding him annoying, whiney, spineless, a copycat, aggravating etc

I like John and beginning to think that BB can destroy people and disgraceful. BOTs well no comment.