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Well ...............they certainly have made a point of destroying John haven't they?
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bbnotgood
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by jobielad:
“I feel sorry for John - really do. He has been a BB supporter, been on BBOTs and his diary room speech really summoned it up i.e. "we are all puppets" I think that is what he is really angry about as he is well aware of his edit. Even after all that he takes time to offer support to Darren in the bedroom saying we all have our roles in here. I think the whole thing has drained and exhausted him and he will be glad to get home. I went off Vanessa Feltz tonight big time. She was cruel and made it obvious she was no fan of John. As for Louisa she is always cutting to her non favourites and strikes me as thinking she is a cut above. Let's face it. These producers are paying their fees indirectly and they will tow the party line definitely. I think the editing this series has been appalling. What was all that about? Showing yet more housemates conflicts then cut to the diary room and they are all saying they will stay friends. The editing is not consistent, choppy and biased towards showing characters not the real people these housemates are. Have said it on other threads but why didn't they just leave them alone to enjoy their last two days together. My goodness they have earned it. Looking at John's demeanour it's like they have broken his spirit and he looks tired of it all. For goodness sakes. Get a grip BB before you drive someone insane inside that house”

Do not particularly like John, but he was shafted over last few days. Editing has been too obvious, worst CBB ever.
nemesisis
04-02-2016
[quote=BlueStreak;81399109][quote=nemesisis;81398998]

Thing is, I don't think Steph was acting..........that's the kind of behaviour I've come to expect from her. She'd drive me to the extreme I'm afraid.

Even though it was a task (which John didn't know of course) I think that was the straw that broke the camels back for him. Can't say I blame him either. He looked so deflated.

agree
Kittygodfree
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by reader123:
“It is just so wrong isn't Darcy, just so wrong.”

But BB do pick hms to do this to, they have a history of it, I am not sure what the criteria is for these hatchet jobs that they do, but John was one of the more well known ,legitimately talented people in there. I thought this alone would command a bit of respect from BB, but no, he is their victim for the vilification treatment this year, hope it doesn't affect him too badly after.
BlueStreak
04-02-2016
[quote=Darcyprincess;81399145]
Originally Posted by nemesisis:
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Steph just showed us just how manipulative she is, telling them all in the press conference that Sam broke her heart when he cheated on her, so why did she want to marry him then and confessed her dying love for him for over 2 weeks in the house. She is some little actress isn't she? I can't stand the girl!”

I can't stand her either. Bearing in mind she wanted to change the public's perception of her I fear she's done just the opposite and made things worse for herself.

I don't buy that Sam was such a bad boyfriend. If that was the case, why keep professing her love for him and marriage was on the cards. That girl needs to be taken around the corner and given a good talking to.

Let's face it, she'd only know Jeremy for a nanosecond before all the kissing and cuddling started. IMO Sam is better off without her.

Good luck Jeremy I fear you'll need it.

Rhumbatugger
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“I good not be more disgusted, Vanessa was a right bitch and when somebody in the audience tried to defend John she cut him off. Megan the bitch standing there laughing was even more disgusting! BB has messed with johns head all the way through, giving all the other tasks to make them look good and him bad constantly! All this business of him taking the flak over Tiff, he was not the only one that voiced his opinion, Danniella and Gemma spoke out too! I am so damn sick of John being the scapegoat and I have decided I must be some idiot for watching this rubbish now!”

Feel the same Darcy

Horrible to watch.
KatrinaK
04-02-2016
[quote=Darcyprincess;81399145]
Originally Posted by nemesisis:
“
Steph just showed us just how manipulative she is, telling them all in the press conference that Sam broke her heart when he cheated on her, so why did she want to marry him then and confessed her dying love for him for over 2 weeks in the house. She is some little actress isn't she? I can't stand the girl!”


Steph has gone way down in my estimation these past few days but tonight was the final iceing on the cake.

I wanted her top3 but now I don't care.

I would love for John to win but I'm not stupid. I expect him first out tomorrow.

Once he leaves, I'm backing Tiff but tbh, I've just had enough now,
Darcyprincess
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by reader123:
“It is just so wrong isn't Darcy, just so wrong.”

Yes reader, they have twisted things at every turn with John for weeks and then tonight when he is at breaking point they crucified him. If this was all true why do so many of us love John and see him so different to what they are portraying? I don't think I have ever seen somebody's character destroyed and slaughtered like johns when he is obviously not a bad person. I know Coleen Nolan had a bad time with Julie Goodyear but things turned around for her the last week but they might as well of dug a grave for John!

The only consolation is that John has got work, is a proper celeb and he knows the people that really know him will be there for him and love him!
detroit city
04-02-2016
Can you folk explain to me or anyone how it was a hatchet job on John, why wasn't it a hatchet job on Daniella Darren or Tiff ?
John was the one who spat his dummy out but they didn't, Darren and Daniella don't like Steph but they didn't want to go home it was only John " i can't do it, i just can't do it any more" Partridge.
jack_blair
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“Stitched up, hook, line and sinker.

Totally out of order imo.

Correct me if I'm wrong, although John was the one to say to Tiffany that she should go out of the house after the David's Dead Saga, weren't the others in full agreement, but he acted as the spokesperson?

If that is correct, why is he and he alone taking the flack for that?

”

that disappointed me about John
but i only really started liking him after that
ForGodsSake
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“They are only showing him as he is. They havnt put strings on him and made him into a puppet, that is the way he is, just plain nasty.”

You would have to have the intellect of a carrot not to be able to see the hatchet job that they did on john tonight.

Scraping up things from 3-4 weeks ago. Nothing from recently though.

Bad Karma Big brother, bad karma.
Darcyprincess
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by Kittygodfree:
“But BB do pick hms to do this to, they have a history of it, I am not sure what the criteria is for these hatchet jobs that they do, but John was one of the more well known ,legitimately talented people in there. I thought this alone would command a bit of respect from BB, but no, he is their victim for the vilification treatment this year, hope it doesn't affect him too badly after.”

Yes this is why I'm so shocked, they have him on BOTS really often as a guest on their panel, but they have shown him so little respect! What are they thinking? Vanessa and Luisa were brutal to him and another bloke as well in the press conference! Like you say he is one of the few celebs in th house that has actually been a good housemate!
jobielad
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by detroit city:
“Can you folk explain to me or anyone how it was a hatchet job on John, why wasn't it a hatchet job on Daniella Darren or Tiff ?
John was the one who spat his dummy out but they didn't, Darren and Daniella don't like Steph but they didn't want to go home it was only John " i can't do it, i just can't do it any more" Partridge.”



He has only said that in this last few days. Never threatened to leave, not kicked doors down and I don't blame him. Just alone living with Steph I would have broken before now!
ChoccyPeanuts
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“You would have to have the intellect of a carrot not to be able to see the hatchet job that they did on john tonight.

Scraping up things from 3-4 weeks ago. Nothing from recently though.

Bad Karma Big brother, bad karma.”

I found it funny how they cut from one of them asking John something simplistic like how he could be so cruel to Darren, right to John looking like a naughty boy who's just been told off and has nothing to say. I wasn't buying that for a second; John would have a retort.
reader123
04-02-2016
[quote=KatrinaK;81399334]
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“

Steph has gone way down in my estimation these past few days but tonight was the final iceing on the cake.

I wanted her top3 but now I don't care.

I would love for John to win but I'm not stupid. I expect him first out tomorrow.

Once he leaves, I'm backing Tiff but tbh, I've just had enough now,”

This ^^
Penny Crayon
04-02-2016
The final nail in the coffin - Vicky on BOTS starts to speak out in defence of John and Rylan interrupts - stops her in her tracks by telling her that her tits have fallen out of her dress.

Dear me .....can they get more blatant?
Darcyprincess
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by detroit city:
“Can you folk explain to me or anyone how it was a hatchet job on John, why wasn't it a hatchet job on Daniella Darren or Tiff ?
John was the one who spat his dummy out but they didn't, Darren and Daniella don't like Steph but they didn't want to go home it was only John " i can't do it, i just can't do it any more" Partridge.”

Sorry, but if I was John I would have wanted to have gone home long ago with those nutters around me, especially Steph! Plus Steph says she wants to go home most days and Daniella tried to break out twice!
BlueStreak
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“The final nail in the coffin - Vicky on BOTS starts to speak out in defence of John and Rylan interrupts - stops her in her tracks by telling her that her tits have fallen out of her dress.

Dear me .....can they get more blatant?”

You must have read my mind lol.

In the end Vicky gave up.

Darcyprincess
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“The final nail in the coffin - Vicky on BOTS starts to speak out in defence of John and Rylan interrupts - stops her in her tracks by telling her that her tits have fallen out of her dress.

Dear me .....can they get more blatant?”

Yep, they really don't want any praise for him at all do they, just like when the bloke that tried to defend John in the press conference Vanessa shut him up too! What a disgrace! Last week John was 3rd to win now he's down to 6th, all because they have done a number on him!
teddybears
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by ChoccyPeanuts:
“I found it funny how they cut from one of them asking John something simplistic like how he could be so cruel to Darren, right to John looking like a naughty boy who's just been told off and has nothing to say. I wasn't buying that for a second; John would have a retort.”

Watch the whole clip
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/task-...ination-day-30
mysty211
04-02-2016
John got a awful edit and the press conference went hard on him.
They weren't as bad with other housemates ones. I feel sorry for him I hope he doesn't come out to boos at least. He doesn't deserve them.
Darcyprincess
04-02-2016
[quote=BlueStreak;81399321]
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
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I can't stand her either. Bearing in mind she wanted to change the public's perception of her I fear she's done just the opposite and made things worse for herself.

I don't buy that Sam was such a bad boyfriend. If that was the case, why keep professing her love for him and marriage was on the cards. That girl needs to be taken around the corner and given a good talking to.

Let's face it, she'd only know Jeremy for a nanosecond before all the kissing and cuddling started. IMO Sam is better off without her.

Good luck Jeremy I fear you'll need it.

”

I cannot believe so many of us felt sorry for her last week, what an actress. Sam is well rid of her and Jeremy will soon realise what she's really like!
Penelope_Pitst1
04-02-2016
I'm not a fan of Johns and feel he made an early and ruthless bid to run the house. I also think when that failed he became sychophantic towards Gemma and then Tiffany. He was appalling about Steph's knickers which led to her getting absolutely publicly humiliated over dirty underwear. He also attempted to gang up on Tiffany early on. John imv has a very dark side when unchallenged by strong personalities who force him to reign it in. That being said he did get totally stitched up in the press interviews. However when i think how Steph was absolutely stoned by the public,( for those of you not on twitter it was unbelievably horrendous) and which john in particular (and other HM's were v much a party too) i can only think what goes around comes around.
JoJo4
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“That's what I find so sad. He's been there for all of them with pep talks and hugs but now he's just totally deflated.

I think he accepted a while ago that he wasn't gonna win - I'm not even sure that he wanted to - I think he just wanted to enjoy his time.

what a really horrible, spiteful thing to do to him. There really was no need.”

I think he just wanted to have fun, and generally enjoy the experience, especially as he's been such a big fan of the show for years.

The last couple of days have really broken him and I'll just be glad for him to leave the house and get back to people who appreciate him.

It's been said before and will be said again, but the producers need to learn when to leave a group alone and just allow the entertainment to develop organically.
KatrinaK
04-02-2016
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Yep, they really don't want any praise for him at all do they, just like when the bloke that tried to defend John in the press conference Vanessa shut him up too! What a disgrace! Last week John was 3rd to win now he's down to 6th, all because they have done a number on him!”

He's got from 7/1 to 80/1 in the space of five days.

Maybe I am being naive here but is there any chance he's doing well in votes and this was BB's way of tampering that just to secure thier chosen, Scotty, Tiff and Steph top 3...? I dunno. What ever thier intention, it seems like they've gone out of their way to make him Britian's most hate man..... and for what? Being annoyed at Stephs tanturms? Nominating Darren 3 weeks ago.....?

The same freaking show who pushed bully Helen to win last year!

You really can't make it up.

The way he has been edited has been very uncomfortable for me and I'm pleased even non-John fans across DS have noticed the stitch up.
BlueStreak
04-02-2016
[quote=Darcyprincess;81399809]
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
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I cannot believe so many of us felt sorry for her last week, what an actress. Sam is well rid of her and Jeremy will soon realise what she's really like!”

I haven't got a heart of stone, but I've never felt sorry for her.

I think Sam has had a lucky escape and well Jeremy, you reap what you sow. Good luck with Steph, I think you'll need it.

I'd like to be proven wrong, but I won't hold my breath.

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