There's something in this. John has to accept that he does have a certain "side" to him that can be what I would call narcissistic. In the sense that "he knows best". This is what has come back to bite him a little. HOWEVER, for me that had already happened earlier on in the series when he realised people were booing him for it etc. And he could see Darren's negative reaction to that very strange nomination he made.

What took place tonight was totally uncalled for and actually unnecessary from BB producers. It was just to humiliate him. Nothing more. I hated it

Oh come on. He's a middle aged, experienced confident man, and you think he's got to be what? All nervous and self questioning and never feel aggrieved and bloody pissed off?

He's perfectly sensible and has a lot of self control as well.

Steph pissed them ALL off, mightily. Scotty is massively cheesed with her, what's his problem then? Or can he just think she's an annoying, lying twister and be a bit annoyed?

They were Stephanie's knickers weren't they c

The main thing that is irritating me at the moment about John is that stupid American accent "gurl ". I wish someone will tell him to stop it

I think not telling him that Steph's behaviour was part of a task was crueller than the press conference, I really felt for him seeing how angry and pissed off he looked tonight.

Let me start by saying I felt sad for John tonight and thought BB and the show were way to harsh on him tonight.

I'm a Tiffany fan and I've gone up and down on my liking of John. I was upset with David-gate but then he started to win me back but then I was disappointed with him about knicker-gate and his lying about it but for some reason I can't stay mad at him for long since he also can seem caring and fun. Maybe it is his interactions with Tiff that make him seem warm (imo) yet obviously he has good social skills based on how the housemates feel about him so I think he is a warm guy. They are all flawed humans and based on the show, I like John despite his human flaws. One can see him as a manipulator or it could be called a leader...it's just how one chooses to perceive him through their own biases.

So he mended things with Tiffany and he has shown support for Stephanie and the others. Also despite being frustrated (to the point of being over it) with Steph, he didn't treat her bad and told her that he was upset with her. He chose at numerous times to walk away rather than escalate the situation (either option was ok with me despite me liking both John and Stephanie).

I could understand his frustration and anger with Steph (even though I like her as a housemate). I even this his frustration was justified. I am upset with BB giving the two attention seekers a task that revolved around seeking attention. It's not fair but BB never has been fair.

I don't watch BOTS that much but I was disgusted with their vilification of John. I do think he was a villain during David-gate but we didn't see the whole thing and Kristina and Danni were just as bad if not worse. However they made him out to be a perpetual villain with no good side which was wrong and so unfair.

I swear I saw tears in John's eyes out in the garden at the beginning of the bots live from the house show. It wasn't during the time the focus was on him and it was early on so I thought it was carried over from earlier that day or he was still reeling from the shit they have been throwing at him (after seeing the press conference I can see why). It kind of broke my heart seeing those almost tears and I don't think he was acting (the attention wasn't on him).

The "press conference" was nasty and I felt bad for him. They also tried to get Danni (I dislike her but I liked how she handled the press conference---even her bitchy eye roll at Steph's comments even though I like Steph...lol, she deserved the eye roll at that time). That woman tried to get Tiff but wasn't able to. John couldn't play it like Danni and Tiff since his character/personality didn't fit with that type of response and they went overboard trying to persecute him.

I don't mind the housemates squabbling/arguing but I don't like it when people are picked on. John was picked on. I even (much to my surprise) felt a tiny bit bad for Gemma (she is vile but not all the time) when Rylan kept saying "I bet you wish you were still in the house" and stuff like that.

It's late here and I am rambling....just wanted to say I felt that I felt bad for John and it wasn't deserved or justified. I hope he does well tomorrow but even if he doesn't he gets full payment and has jobs lined up.

If all that's true, why oh why do these well established stars like John do the contest?

I think that John wanted to beat Big Brother. He never gave away a thing about himself, and tried to remain calm and detached from the house goings on. But Big Brother wasn't having it, and gave him a great big poke via that press conference.

What we saw was the real John, not able to hold it all in, unravelling just like many of them have done. And the upshot is, he will have learned about himself - yeah, even though he's a 30 something man - and will probably go forward with strength, knowing that despite being a bit narky and precious, despite being a bit arrogant and controlling at times, it doesn't matter. It's all part isof the wonderful tapestry that is John Partridge.

IIRC 6th & 5th Place, they come out together and share the interview with Emma.