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Stephanie calling Sam a "nob 'ead"
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gelefsky
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by CLIVE_Smith:
“Indeed it has i was looking back on some of your post and TBF you do make a lot of sense in what your saying even tho as you know i'm not a Stephanie fan but you make some valid point about her ”

Appreciate that mate. You make no sense at all.....JUST KIDDING!
gelefsky
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by mysty211:
“It's more Stephanie will be the one cashing in after it shows how she's thinking, to even come up with that reason.
Even if Sam has cheated on her Stephanie chose to take him back. Cheating as some form of revenge just makes her stoop down to the same level being just as bad.
I imagine Stephanie is going to stick to the story of Sam never taking her out when she gets out etc. At this stage if Sam spoke out I'd support him he deserves to have his say to defend himself. Not sure if he will he's avoided everything so far.”

I don't think this is anything to do with it. It's more the fact that the cheating with Jeremy took place - and THEN Steph started to justify it as the weeks have gone on with the comments around Sam "not treating her right" etc. (whether that's true or not, nobody will ever really know).
jack_blair
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by gelefsky:
“I don't think this is anything to do with it. It's more the fact that the cheating with Jeremy took place - and THEN Steph started to justify it as the weeks have gone on with the comments around Sam "not treating her right" etc. (whether that's true or not, nobody will ever really know).”

verbally kicking him in the nuts from the safety of the BB House
what a b*tch
mysty211
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by gelefsky:
“I don't think this is anything to do with it. It's more the fact that the cheating with Jeremy took place - and THEN Steph started to justify it as the weeks have gone on with the comments around Sam "not treating her right" etc. (whether that's true or not, nobody will ever really know).”

Oh I worded that a bit wrong I mean to say even if she had chosen to cheat as some form of revenge it makes her look as bad as him. But yeah she waited ages before saying he cheated only started when things were happening with Jeremy trying to make herself look better. I wonder if she's been acting some of the time? making up a story
muggins14
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by gelefsky:
“I don't think this is anything to do with it. It's more the fact that the cheating with Jeremy took place - and THEN Steph started to justify it as the weeks have gone on with the comments around Sam "not treating her right" etc. (whether that's true or not, nobody will ever really know).”

I agree with that. She slowly built up a story, elaborating on it more and more, about him not being the perfect boyfriend.

If memory serves me correctly it started when Gemma planted the seed in her head, saying something about well if it wasn't the perfect relationship then that's different, or something to that effect. Only after Gemma said whatever it was; I can't remember the words, but I remember thinking she'd fed Stephanie the perfect excuse to start justifying what was going on, which from then on she added to more and more with excuses as to why suddenly the relationship with Sam had gone from being one she wished to consolidate by marriage to one, suddenly, that needed to be escaped from.
jack_blair
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I agree with that. She slowly built up a story, elaborating on it more and more, about him not being the perfect boyfriend.

If memory serves me correctly it started when Gemma planted the seed in her head, saying something about well if it wasn't the perfect relationship then that's different, or something to that effect. Only after Gemma said whatever it was; I can't remember the words, but I remember thinking she'd fed Stephanie the perfect excuse to start justifying what was going on, which from then on she added to more and more with excuses as to why suddenly the relationship with Sam had gone from being one she wished to consolidate by marriage to one, suddenly, that needed to be escaped from.”

she's created the perfect story in her delusional head
and anyone interferring with that story will be verbally crucified
BeenieWazo
05-02-2016
Who really cares?
People day in day out have "affairs".

Fortunately for most they are not under close circuit tv to be found out quite so easily as this pair.

Unless you are a direct party and their behavior impacts upon you why are you all taking this moral high ground? Why do you give a jot?

Let's collectively get over this cheating bollox stance for someone you do not know on a personal level because I can almost guarantee that someone you think quite dearly of is!
gelefsky
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I agree with that. She slowly built up a story, elaborating on it more and more, about him not being the perfect boyfriend.

If memory serves me correctly it started when Gemma planted the seed in her head, saying something about well if it wasn't the perfect relationship then that's different, or something to that effect. Only after Gemma said whatever it was; I can't remember the words, but I remember thinking she'd fed Stephanie the perfect excuse to start justifying what was going on, which from then on she added to more and more with excuses as to why suddenly the relationship with Sam had gone from being one she wished to consolidate by marriage to one, suddenly, that needed to be escaped from.”

Sure. I do feel that what happened with Jeremy would not have happened if Sam was "the one" for her, so I feel all that supposed love Steph was expressing about Sam at the start of the show was unfounded. Just my view. I think Jeremy truly meets her needs better. And we know they are some needs!

But, the whole thing is really unpleasant when I think more about it.

I still have a lot of time for Steph, but she has some serious growing up to do. When she made the "knob ed" remark tonight it really made me think of a gobby 16 year old
Eurostar
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by gelefsky:
“You are correct, but not the full story. The thread has become confused between two separate matters.

1) Steph called Sam a "knob ed" right at the end AFTER one of the "press" said he had been "CASHING IN" on what had happened in the house (this was obviously bound to create some kind of reaction in Steph)
2) Steph then asked Megan about Jeremy when she said "Who was he with?" when he had been out and about - in a totally separate instance”

Yes, that was fully clear to me watching the episode. Right at the end she was asking Megan if she had seen Jeremy and who was he with (to which Megan replied "all boys").
Lucypher
05-02-2016
I thought it was hilarious when Steph called Sam a 'knob head' for cashing in on the story. Seems to me she was a bit under his thumb when she went into the house, and falling for Jeremy helped her break away from Sam's psychological control of her. She has definitely grown up, is more her own woman, and good luck to her. With or without Jez, she'll do fine now, I suspect.
BeenieWazo
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by Lucypher:
“I thought it was hilarious when Steph called Sam a 'knob head' for cashing in on the story. Seems to me she was a bit under his thumb when she went into the house, and falling for Jeremy helped her break away from Sam's psychological control of her. She has definitely grown up, is more her own woman, and good luck to her. With or without Jez, she'll do fine now, I suspect.”

Agree.
jack_blair
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by Lucypher:
“I thought it was hilarious when Steph called Sam a 'knob head' for cashing in on the story. Seems to me she was a bit under his thumb when she went into the house, and falling for Jeremy helped her break away from Sam's psychological control of her. She has definitely grown up, is more her own woman, and good luck to her. With or without Jez, she'll do fine now, I suspect.”

she supposedly paid for everything
she had the control
who knows with this woman >she adapts her stories to deflect attention away from anything negative about her
dylan99
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by mysty211:
“It's more Stephanie will be the one cashing in after it shows how she's thinking, to even come up with that reason.
Even if Sam has cheated on her Stephanie chose to take him back. Cheating as some form of revenge just makes her stoop down to the same level being just as bad.
I imagine Stephanie is going to stick to the story of Sam never taking her out when she gets out etc. At this if Sam spoke out I'd support him he deserves to have his say to defend himself. Not sure if he will he's avoided everything so far.”

I'd be dissapointed, i admire his unwillingness to join the circus.
jack_blair
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Yes, that was fully clear to me watching the episode. Right at the end she was asking Megan if she had seen Jeremy and who was he with (to which Megan replied "all boys").”

she knows Sam won't be outside to meet her
she had to ensure that Jeremy will
reassurance again
hisdogspot
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by Lucypher:
“I thought it was hilarious when Steph called Sam a 'knob head' for cashing in on the story. Seems to me she was a bit under his thumb when she went into the house, and falling for Jeremy helped her break away from Sam's psychological control of her. She has definitely grown up, is more her own woman, and good luck to her. With or without Jez, she'll do fine now, I suspect.”



The longer this goes on, the more demonised Stephanie's live-in partner becomes

He has now reached the level of Hitchcock arch villain ... a Machiavellian psychopath

So funny
Randysback
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by Lucypher:
“I thought it was hilarious when Steph called Sam a 'knob head' for cashing in on the story. Seems to me she was a bit under his thumb when she went into the house, and falling for Jeremy helped her break away from Sam's psychological control of her. She has definitely grown up, is more her own woman, and good luck to her. With or without Jez, she'll do fine now, I suspect.”

Sam hasn't cashed in on Steph, he's been silent. He's not been on daytime TV or anything.. And as for Steph growing into a woman. It was only a few days ago she was making a Den out of Duvets and talking about her Hairy Growler. She's a disgrace to her family and for women everywhere. She's just a gobby chav
Randysback
05-02-2016
Lol, just wait until she sees Jeremy without his make-up on..
jack_blair
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by Randysback:
“Lol, just wait until she sees Jeremy without his make-up on.. ”

with the new hair cut
avon942
05-02-2016
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP0iNIg1r90&sns=tw via youtube

Wow what a difference 3 weeks makes. Are people really falling for her bullshit??
gelefsky
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“verbally kicking him in the nuts from the safety of the BB House
what a b*tch”

I think when the dust settles, most of us will realise, as is often the case with these forum debates, the truth lies somewhere in the middle (no pun intended)
BeenieWazo
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by avon942:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP0iNIg1r90&sns=tw via youtube

Wow what a difference 3 weeks makes. Are people really falling for her bullshit??”

Not on this thread.....
foxyred
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by gelefsky:
“Yes agreed. But as I have argued on another couple of threads what she said right at the end there was manufactured.

It was in response to the "press" saying to her Sam was "CASHING IN" on what had happened in the house.

Of course this is going to result in Steph - given her immaturity and what we know about her - reacting in such a way.

The whole thing was a shambles”

Where was the string because I didn't see anyone pulling them? Why can't anyone who supports Steph just help her to take responsibility for her own actions by not making excuses for her and giving her licence to act however she feels to. How the heck is she ever going to grow up and learn how to behave better?
jack_blair
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by avon942:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP0iNIg1r90&sns=tw via youtube

Wow what a difference 3 weeks makes. Are people really falling for her bullshit??”



and she was saying at that Press Conference that they were not really getting on when she went in to the house b*llsh*t on Stephanie

It would be good to see a clip of when Jermey entered the house and her reaction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vePK-9f7y-4
here's more of the same Stephanie's playing of Jeremy and Jeremy backing off as he's found out she says one thing to one HM and another to him about her BF
Stephanie to Jeremy "I'd be the same with a gay lad as with you"
gelefsky
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by foxyred:
“Where was the string because I didn't see anyone pulling them? Why can't anyone who supports Steph just help her to take responsibility for her own actions by not making excuses for her and giving her licence to act however she feels to. How the heck is she ever going to grow up and learn how to behave better? ”

String? Not sure what you mean. But if you've been reading any of my posts (especially today), it is highly unlikely you would make that remark in reference to me
Rhumbatugger
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“

The longer this goes on, the more demonised Stephanie's live-in partner becomes

He has now reached the level of Hitchcock arch villain ... a Machiavellian psychopath

So funny”

I know, in a sort of horrifying way.

He got shat on from a great height. But it's all his fault, poor ickiw Steph.
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