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Has Jeremy got enough money for Stephanie ?
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cjandrews
05-02-2016
Stephanie Davis on Twitter: Lovely Sunday @ThePointingDog with my beautiful boyfriend @SamReece #full #happy film and cuddles now😊💜💜👫🍽🍷#thebest https://t.co/pbmxIoramL


Steph "Never goes out for dinner" Davis.

AMS13
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by Shantan:
“I doubt it being Mr Dublin doesn't pay like it used to....”

But no doubt he got a decent figure to appear on the show. Then you have the PA and magazine deals post CBB?
AMS13
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by pie-eyed:
“I don't think the "taken out to dinner" issue has anything to do with money. She's a young woman who wants the man in her life to make her feel special. That much is obvious. For all that Jeremy is a bit of an idiot at times, he gets it that she wants to be treated better than she has been. I don't know how these people calling her materialistic and money grabbing even know that. We haven't seen any evidence of this at all. She hasn't been short of money herself considering her own career. She's not asking for the earth really, just to be taken out and treated as a special person. Not a big ask really.”

Well said.
AMS13
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by gkabc:
“It definitely did seem like that was a dig at Sam being either cheap or poor. She will sabotage her relationship with Jeremy before the spring.”

Poor has nothing to do with it. With regards her and Sam's relationship, that is for them to sort out and find closure, in privacy.
Citizen Kane
05-02-2016
Sorry to say this, ducking the missiles, but... once sex is treated so casually and emotionally meaningless, then all there is to hold a couple together are material things.

Being faithful is hard when you cannot distinguish love making from sex!
Putting on my tin hat as we speak.
Vicky.
05-02-2016
Not sure, how much does a restraining order cost? As thats how this 'relationship' will end up
avon942
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by AMS13:
“Poor has nothing to do with it. With regards her and Sam's relationship, that is for them to sort out and find closure, in privacy.”

Really? Her calling a nob head on tv was appropriate was it?
muggins14
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by pie-eyed:
“I don't think the "taken out to dinner" issue has anything to do with money. She's a young woman who wants the man in her life to make her feel special. That much is obvious. For all that Jeremy is a bit of an idiot at times, he gets it that she wants to be treated better than she has been. I don't know how these people calling her materialistic and money grabbing even know that. We haven't seen any evidence of this at all. She hasn't been short of money herself considering her own career. She's not asking for the earth really, just to be taken out and treated as a special person. Not a big ask really.”

bib - that was exactly my take on it, she never mentioned money, she mentioned being taken out - most couples go out for a meal once in a while, cinema, date night, whatever you want to call it. That was what I thought she was getting out, that he never took her out on dates. She never said 'he doesn't spend money on me'.

ETA: I'm not saying that he never took her out, I'm saying that that is what I thought she was implying, rather than it being about £££.
kitkat1971
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by cjandrews:
“Well Steph had to pay Sam for a holiday, so I guess it can't get any worse.”

If he wasn't earning enough money to pay for a nice holiday then maybe stephanie should have just done without. Or gone away with somebody, perhaps a female friend who could pay her own way.

Fact isn if you earn more money than your partner, that is the choice. Either live in such a way that suits their budget so you can contribute equally, or subsidies them (graciously, not bringing it up in arguments or holding a grudge) so they can join you in the holidays that you want and can afford.

I do suspect that Steph wants the high end things, expensive restaurants and exotic, frequent holidays and her salary can afford them but most people of her age probably can't and that is what she needs to accept. I also suspect that her complaint that she has never been 'put first' involves this sort of thing, she thinks that men should constantly be sweeping her off her feet, lavishing her with nice meals, presents, holidays and footing the bill for it all but most relationships these days just aren't like that. At least, not after the honeymoon period of the first few months.
kitkat1971
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“bib - that was exactly my take on it, she never mentioned money, she mentioned being taken out - most couples go out for a meal once in a while, cinema, date night, whatever you want to call it. That was what I thought she was getting out, that he never took her out on dates. She never said 'he doesn't spend money on me'.

ETA: I'm not saying that he never took her out, I'm saying that that is what I thought she was implying, rather than it being about £££.”

But the thing is, we know from Twitter and Instagram that they did used to go out quite frequently so it appears the only issue could be who is paying for it. Or i suppose if it was always her suggesting it when she'd like to be 'taken out'. But if he couldn't afford to pay for the sort of fancy places that would make her feel special, then maybe he didn't want to suggest it because he knew shek5 have to pay?

Of course it isn't unreasonable to want to have a fuss made of her, To feel wanted, loved, valued. We all want that and there's something wrong if it never happens. But most know that it can't happen all the time, that after the first flush of romance, it will probably only happen at birthdays, anniversaries, valentine's Day and i might be wrong, but i get the impression she wants a bit more than that. She does seem to need constant validation and reassurance of how important she is to people. Which is sad as it signals insecurity but would also be very wearing and almost impossible to fulfill long term.

I have a very good friend that is a bit like that. Her insecurity and lack of self worth is such that she only feels okay about herself when she has somebody telling her how wonderful and desirable she is - which as she is very pretty, intelligent and engaging happens a lot when people especially men, first meet her. But after a while, relationships settle down into a more standard routine and she starts to feel insecure as she isn't being 'put first' because work and even children (after she marriied) have to take precedence. So, when somebody new meets her, through work, she craves the attention and has an affair, feeling valued, loved etc and leaves the first person to set up with the second. A few months in, everyday life takes over, she feels neglected, whole cycle starts again.

She's 47 now and has been repeating this pattern for 30 years and it still hasn't sunk in why relationships keep not working after such promising starts, although everyone around her can see it.

Long winded and of course Steph might be very different but a lot of the things she does and says do really remind me of my friend.
muggins14
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“But the thing is, we know from Twitter and Instagram that they did used to go out quite frequently so it appears the only issue could be who is paying for it. Or i suppose if it was always her suggesting it when she'd like to be 'taken out'. But if he couldn't afford to pay for the sort of fancy places that would make her feel special, then maybe he didn't want to suggest it because he knew shek5 have to pay?

Of course it isn't unreasonable to want to have a fuss made of her, To feel wanted, loved, valued. We all want that and there's something wrong if it never happens. But most know that it can't happen all the time, that after the first flush of romance, it will probably only happen at birthdays, anniversaries, valentine's Day and i might be wrong, but i get the impression she wants a bit more than that. She does seem to need constant validation and reassurance of how important she is to people. Which is sad as it signals insecurity but would also be very wearing and almost impossible to fulfill long term.

I have a very good friend that is a bit like that. Her insecurity and lack of self worth is such that she only feels okay about herself when she has somebody telling her how wonderful and desirable she is - which as she is very pretty, intelligent and engaging happens a lot when people especially men, first meet her. But after a while, relationships settle down into a more standard routine and she starts to feel insecure as she isn't being 'put first' because work and even children (after she marriied) have to take precedence. So, when somebody new meets her, through work, she craves the attention and has an affair, feeling valued, loved etc and leaves the first person to set up with the second. A few months in, everyday life takes over, she feels neglected, whole cycle starts again.

She's 47 now and has been repeating this pattern for 30 years and it still hasn't sunk in why relationships keep not working after such promising starts, although everyone around her can see it.

Long winded and of course Steph might be very different but a lot of the things she does and says do really remind me of my friend.”

She sounds very unhappy - as does Steph a lot of the time despite her almost constant hyper state (almost manic at times, to me at least).

I admit I've not perused her Twitter and don't do Instagram (plus I'm not that interested in poking into their lives beyond the show, to be honest although it comes to looking at things sometimes during the course of discussion on here).
whoyouarexo
05-02-2016
i think Stephs issue is more that she pays for everything in her and Sams relationship, not just dinner but hotels, holidays etc. She just wants to be treated herself sometimes, thats not a bad thing!
Vicky.
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by whoyouarexo:
“i think Stephs issue is more that she pays for everything in her and Sams relationship, not just dinner but hotels, holidays etc. She just wants to be treated herself sometimes, thats not a bad thing!”

I didn't realise people thought like this when they are living together. Once we moved in together, whatever we made was ours, not mine and his. As such there was no problems with who paid for what :S
kitkat1971
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky.:
“I didn't realise people thought like this when they are living together. Once we moved in together, whatever we made was ours, not mine and his. As such there was no problems with who paid for what :S”

Exactly.

That's how it is with most couples.

Also, there are ways to be "treated like a Princess" which don't involve spending loads of money.
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