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anyone feel a bit sorry for sam?
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bambii
05-02-2016
The way he has been used as a plot line...

he apparently cheated.. (we haven't had his side of the story, and Steph had been caught out lying alot).. but he has literally be annihilated on that show all to try and show Steph in a more favourable light for cheating...
froja
05-02-2016
Absolutely. What Steph has done is wrong. He has dealt with it all in a dignified manner. Go on Sam!!!!
cjandrews
05-02-2016
He hasn't sold a story on it or mentioned anything on social media, so that's a plus. Also, he rejected a presumed cash sum to enter the House. However he has cashed in on PA's, but who can blame him to be fair (easy money.)
What name??
05-02-2016
Definitely. I think he has handled it right by just going about his business and been the most dignified of the trio.
Valentine
05-02-2016
And yet the little scrubber who cheated on him on national TV calls him a knobhead...! He's well rid of her, good luck Jeremy!
bambii
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by cjandrews:
“He hasn't sold a story on it or mentioned anything on social media, so that's a plus. Also, he rejected a presumed cash sum to enter the House. However he has cashed in on PA's, but who can blame him to be fair (easy money.)”

Glad he didn't go into the house, I've more respect for him for not doing that. At least he won't have to clean up after skanky Steph now... that's Jeremys job now.... I'm sure he will be relayed with holidays..
Dr Z
05-02-2016
The thing about his cheating, is that the first we heard about it was when Steph was trying to defend her own infidelity.

Had there been the merest hint of any trouble in her relationship before? No, quite the opposite, she described her life as perfect and wanted to him to ask her to get married.

Maybe he did? Maybe he didn't, but does Stephanie come across as the type of girl that will accuse her OH of cheating when they smile at the waitress serving them? Just look at how she responded to Truth or Dare. Its funny how his cheating wasn't an issue until she was in Jeremy's pants.

Yes I do feel for Sam, he's had all the negatives of being on a reality show without the paycheque. Sick of people saying he is rejoicing simply because he is making some money and not gone into public mourning.

He literally hasn't said a word against Steph, Jeremy, Christopher Malony, or Stephs stirring friends, That kind of dignity is very rare today.
bambii
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“The thing about his cheating, is that the first we heard about it was when Steph was trying to defend her own infidelity.

Had there been the merest hint of any trouble in her relationship before? No, quite the opposite, she described her life as perfect and wanted to him to ask her to get married.

Maybe he did? Maybe he didn't, but does Stephanie come across as the type of girl that will accuse her OH of cheating when they smile at the waitress serving them? Just look at how she responded to Truth or Dare. Its funny how his cheating wasn't an issue until she was in Jeremy's pants.

Yes I do feel for Sam, he's had all the negatives of being on a reality show without the paycheque. Sick of people saying he is rejoicing simply because he is making some money and not gone into public mourning.

He literally hasn't said a word against Steph, Jeremy, Christopher Malony, or Stephs stirring friends, That kind of dignity is very rare today.”

Yep I agree completely with this.
Its all the HM'S coming out slating him that's made me uncomfortable watching... it's all on her word, which stands for nothing at the moment... the only thing that's crystal clear is she is a liar.
kitkat1971
05-02-2016
Yes I do.

His name has been dragged through the mud. Branded a 'bad' boyfriend who has cheated, taken advantage of Steph financially, emotionally and physically controlled or even abused her and finally that he is 'cashing in'.

How has he "cashed in" exactly? Yes he has done PA's but wasn't he doing them beforehand anyway? Yes, he might have got more due to Steph being in the House but was he supposed to turn them down? Provided he hasn't spoken about her or the situation, he isn't actually hurting her is he? And he needs to earn a living. "Cashing in" to me would be if he had sold his story and dished the dirt on stephanie in the Press which he hasn't, even though I'm sure he has been approached.

If i were him, i'd take legal advice about some of the claims over the past couple of weeks especially that he 'controls' her and has hit her.

I'm not a Sam groupie by the way. I know very little about him, hadn't heard of him until 4 weeks ago and from photos, really not my cip of tea. I just think it is dreadful how he has been humiliated by his girlfriend cheating on him on National TV and then vilified by her supporters so she looks better.
AMS13
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by cjandrews:
“He hasn't sold a story on it or mentioned anything on social media, so that's a plus. Also, he rejected a presumed cash sum to enter the House. However he has cashed in on PA's, but who can blame him to be fair (easy money.)”


I actually like them both. Wish him luck and respect him for not selling out, despite the hysteria.

At the end of the day it is between the two of them to get closure on the relationship.
D. Morgan
05-02-2016
Not in the slightest, you can see from his desperate attempts to be on any reality TV show that he is a brainless, fame hungry ****.
An Thropologist
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by cjandrews:
“He hasn't sold a story on it or mentioned anything on social media, so that's a plus. Also, he rejected a presumed cash sum to enter the House. However he has cashed in on PA's, but who can blame him to be fair (easy money.)”

And as far as I can asertain part of his regular job which he was doing before Steph went into the house. OK so his profile is higher now but that's hardly his doing. What is he supposed to do change careers because someone else's behaviour has pushed him into the spot light a tad more?
kitkat1971
05-02-2016
Of course if he really was abusive then she is well rid but that is a big if.

Of course we have no way of knowing the truth of the situation but as i said when these claims first came out about him not liking her talking to other men in bars and such, frankly if her being very 'tactile' and 'affectionate' (as we were originally told it only was with Jeremy) is standard, her kissing, cuddling etc, then i can't say i blame her boyfriend for having a slight problem ot worry about it and wanting her to keep a bit of distance. Even if she didn't mean anything by it, always a high chance the bloke concerned would assume it meant more and try and take it further.

Plus, i do suspect there is a lot of "what's good for the gander is not good for the goose" with Steph. IE, when she flirts, it is just harmless fun, if her boyfriend does it, he's cheating and not respecting her "putting her first".

I also really think she is great at self deluding and actually believes her version of things to be the truth after a while. Wek?e seen it a few times with her recollection of events in the House and I suspect we're seeing it with her relationship with Sam and falling for Jeremy. As Scotty said, the tale spun at the Press conference re her being on the verge of breaking up before the House just doesn't tally with what she said for the first two weeks.
kitkat1971
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“And as far as I can asertain part of his regular job which he was doing before Steph went into the house. OK so his profile is higher now but that's hardly his doing. What is he supposed to do change careers because someone else's behaviour has pushed him into the spot light a tad more?”

Exactly, that is my understanding of it as well.

Yes, he has a higher profile now and miight get work because of it but this was already his job.

If he'd previously been working as a train driver and ditched that because suddenly he was being offered PA's on the back of Steph's fame, that would be cashing in but that isn't the case here.
bambii
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by AMS13:
“I actually like them both. Wish him luck and respect him for not selling out, despite the hysteria.

At the end of the day it is between the two of them to get closure on the relationship.”

Someone should tell that to the ex HM who have come out slating him...

What was interesting is Megan had a PA with him and she had nothing to add to the situation...
little-monster
05-02-2016
Even if he wasn't boyfriend of the year, the attention from his has turned from supporting to be damn right nasty within the last week. Which happened to be at the same time that Stephanie went from hated to now being loved and being a dark horse winner.

But he has been very dignified. and I would hardly say he has been cashing in. He got offers to do a PA. He's a model and likely had done them before.
ucra girl
05-02-2016
I dont feel sorry for him at all bcause I have been treated the way he treated Steph and made to feel unworthy.Paid for everything inluding the mortage.I know what it takes to get out and I can feel her anger. You cant deal with someone like that any other way.He emotionally abused her.I cant even remember what my ex looks like and we have children,he lives 10 mins away.

Steph has a right to be angry and call him a knob head.She is angry for allowing it to go on.

I am glad she has put herself first as I did and got out.
ucra girl
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“Even if he wasn't boyfriend of the year, the attention from his has turned from supporting to be damn right nasty within the last week. Which happened to be at the same time that Stephanie went from hated to now being loved and being a dark horse winner.

But he has been very dignified. and I would hardly say he has been cashing in. He got offers to do a PA. He's a model and likely had done them before.”




O please,he cant speak because he doesnt know what Steph is going to reveal.No agent will let him speak at this time until Steph speaks.Rumours he hit her??

He would be more dignified if he didnt cash it
hannah
05-02-2016
I like the fact that Sam has ignored the Steph/Jeremy situation but I dont know how much longer he will keep quiet for especially since it is rumoured Steph will be doing an autobiography about her life and her explosive relationship with him.
ucra girl
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by AMS13:
“I actually like them both. Wish him luck and respect him for not selling out, despite the hysteria.

At the end of the day it is between the two of them to get closure on the relationship.”

Dont hold your breath on that.It is Steph's call.He is forced to keep quiet because he doesnt know what Steph will reveal.

Also what is Newspapers dont want to buy???
muggins14
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“The thing about his cheating, is that the first we heard about it was when Steph was trying to defend her own infidelity.

Had there been the merest hint of any trouble in her relationship before? No, quite the opposite, she described her life as perfect and wanted to him to ask her to get married.

Maybe he did? Maybe he didn't, but does Stephanie come across as the type of girl that will accuse her OH of cheating when they smile at the waitress serving them? Just look at how she responded to Truth or Dare. Its funny how his cheating wasn't an issue until she was in Jeremy's pants.

Yes I do feel for Sam, he's had all the negatives of being on a reality show without the paycheque. Sick of people saying he is rejoicing simply because he is making some money and not gone into public mourning.

He literally hasn't said a word against Steph, Jeremy, Christopher Malony, or Stephs stirring friends, That kind of dignity is very rare today.”

Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Yes I do.

His name has been dragged through the mud. Branded a 'bad' boyfriend who has cheated, taken advantage of Steph financially, emotionally and physically controlled or even abused her and finally that he is 'cashing in'.

How has he "cashed in" exactly? Yes he has done PA's but wasn't he doing them beforehand anyway? Yes, he might have got more due to Steph being in the House but was he supposed to turn them down? Provided he hasn't spoken about her or the situation, he isn't actually hurting her is he? And he needs to earn a living. "Cashing in" to me would be if he had sold his story and dished the dirt on stephanie in the Press which he hasn't, even though I'm sure he has been approached.

If i were him, i'd take legal advice about some of the claims over the past couple of weeks especially that he 'controls' her and has hit her.

I'm not a Sam groupie by the way. I know very little about him, hadn't heard of him until 4 weeks ago and from photos, really not my cip of tea. I just think it is dreadful how he has been humiliated by his girlfriend cheating on him on National TV and then vilified by her supporters so she looks better.”

I agree with you both.

Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“I dont feel sorry for him at all bcause I have been treated the way he treated Steph and made to feel unworthy.Paid for everything inluding the mortage.I know what it takes to get out and I can feel her anger. You cant deal with someone like that any other way.He emotionally abused her.I cant even remember what my ex looks like and we have children,he lives 10 mins away.

Steph has a right to be angry and call him a knob head.She is angry for allowing it to go on.

I am glad she has put herself first as I did and got out.”

Ucra, no disrespect but you really don't know that any of what you've said applies to this Sam person at all.

I'm sorry that you've not had the best of times with your ex - I haven't with mine either - but none of us know the ins-and-outs of Sam and Stephanie's relationship, all we have heard is how wonderful he is for 2 weeks then a sudden turnaround. All from her side, nothing from his. You say "the way he treated Stephanie" ... you don't know how he treated her, you say she "paid for everything including the mortgage" (or was that you in your relationship, that's rather unclear ) ... again, you do not know this is fact. It's projection.
little-monster
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
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O please,he cant speak because he doesnt know what Steph is going to reveal.No agent will let him speak at this time until Steph speaks.Rumours he hit her??

He would be more dignified if he didnt cash it”

Cashing in would be selling stories. Not doing PA';s
ucra girl
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by hannah:
“I like the fact that Sam has ignored the Steph/Jeremy situation but I dont know how much longer he will keep quiet for especially since it is rumoured Steph will be doing an autobiography about her life and her explosive relationship with him.”

What can he do about it? Stop it?

Maybe do your research.He is subtle about it,Jez was in Essex he tweeted about going to Essex. Last night Jez was in Newcastle,he tweeted about being there a year ago.People attacked him for it and sent him a screen shot of Jez's tweet.

They are basically having digs at each other lol
calamity
05-02-2016
Sam is singing...."I Should Be So Lucky Lucky Lucky Lucky"
ucra girl
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“Cashing in would be selling stories. Not doing PA';s”

Bloody hell.PAs are paid cash they are not visits
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