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anyone feel a bit sorry for sam?
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hannah
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“What can he do about it? Stop it?

Maybe do your research.He is subtle about it,Jez was in Essex he tweeted about going to Essex. Last night Jez was in Newcastle,he tweeted about being there a year ago.People attacked him for it and sent him a screen shot of Jez's tweet.

They are basically having digs at each other lol”

Sorry I am on he hasnt said anything on the situation yes he has favourited some twitter messages but thats it. I dont know about the Essex thing but he was announced to be Newcastle before Jeremy was.
ucra girl
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by calamity:
“Sam is singing...."I Should Be So Lucky Lucky Lucky Lucky"”

True because he can now go and find another young girl in the public eye with a raised profile to pay for his holidays.
ucra girl
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by hannah:
“Sorry I am on he hasnt said anything on the situation yes he has favourited some twitter messages but thats it. I dont know about the Essex thing but he was announced to be Newcastle before Jeremy was.”

But what do you want or expect him to say
pepipop
05-02-2016
No, he's obviously a cheat and she was a young girl hanging on to a 'relationship' - and she'd not met anyone else.

He's been told to wait his time to tell 'his' story to get the most bucks. No doubt, until after Steph/Jes get their OK deal and then he'll counter'punch'.

Although, it looks like it'll be a case of 'too little, too late'.
muggins14
05-02-2016
It's all getting a little bit libellous, or close to it.

I've seen so many assumptions and little bendings of truths (to say the least) with regard to this bloke, some of it seems to be because it helps to make Stephanie's actions more 'acceptable' for those who just love to love a love story.

It does make me wonder how far people will go to bend everything to fit into the image they have in their heads, it's rather scary though. Trust me, I know of what I speak, have the scars to prove it

I'm embarrassed to say that I speak from experience as a former (thankfully long-reformed ... yes, I saw the light ) JJJer - I know what it's like to twist things so that I convinced myself that what I saw was exactly what I wanted it to be rather than what it really was, I obsessed over a barely-existent romance, I turned two people into something in my head that they really never were. Many of us did it, it was almost like a form of mass hysteria!

I see people doing the same thing now with Stephanie and her situation; look at that audience member last night being all defensive about Scotty with regard to Megan, building some non-existent romantic notion out of the two of them and willing it to be so, to the point of practically putting words into Scott and Megan's mouths!

It's a scary road, don't go down it!
An Thropologist
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“Cashing in would be selling stories. Not doing PA';s”

Which despite being invited he hasn't done. Now one might hyphethesis he hasn't because he knows there are skeletons in his wardrobe. But there is a certain advantage in putting your story out first.

Many people will read that story, decide it doesn't interest them and not follow how it unfolds. So there will always be a core whose 'knowledge' is limited to the first story.

So even if there are skeletons (and I stress IF - as far as I am concerned the man is innocent until some evidence of wrong doing is revealled) it would be to his advantage to sell a kiss and tell while she is in the house.
hannah
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“But what do you want or expect him to say”

Dont know shall we just leave it there anyway it would will be revealed in Steph's autobiography
muggins14
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by hannah:
“Dont know shall we just leave it there anyway it would will be revealed in Steph's autobiography”

What will that be called? 'OMG! How CBB cured my ADHD'?
calamity
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“What will that be called? 'OMG! How CBB cured my ADHD'? ”

Daddys Little Girl..
racol5
05-02-2016
Young people don't get it right. He said she said sells .
dee-rec
05-02-2016
None of us know the truth about Sam and Stephanie's relationship and I know nothing about Sam, but the way Stef has come across in the house as a demented, needy and basically pretty unpleasant person in general, it seems he has had a lucky escape. Mind you, I question his judgement hooking up with her in the first place.
bambii
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“True because he can now go and find another young girl in the public eye with a raised profile to pay for his holidays.”

Sorry but you're really coming across as bitter here... I get your angry at your ex, but to take that out on Sam is rediculous.. we only have one side of the situation.. Sam has remained silent about it. There are no kids involved. She moved in with him, so I imagine he was paying his own rent/mortgage etc..

A lot of what Steph had said does not add up.. and she has been caught out lying aswell..
calamity
05-02-2016
People like them all move on fast... they dont get broken hearts like us mortals as the only really love themselves in the end..
fluffybunyip
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“The thing about his cheating, is that the first we heard about it was when Steph was trying to defend her own infidelity.

Had there been the merest hint of any trouble in her relationship before? No, quite the opposite, she described her life as perfect and wanted to him to ask her to get married.

Maybe he did? Maybe he didn't, but does Stephanie come across as the type of girl that will accuse her OH of cheating when they smile at the waitress serving them? Just look at how she responded to Truth or Dare. Its funny how his cheating wasn't an issue until she was in Jeremy's pants.

Yes I do feel for Sam, he's had all the negatives of being on a reality show without the paycheque. Sick of people saying he is rejoicing simply because he is making some money and not gone into public mourning.

He literally hasn't said a word against Steph, Jeremy, Christopher Malony, or Stephs stirring friends, That kind of dignity is very rare today.”

Absolutely spot on. I think Steph is just the kind of confused girl who changes her story when it suits her. Whilst she was in mid weird flirtation/relationship with Jeremy in the house, she was still agreeing with Gemma that Sam was gorgeous and that she was going to marry him.

I feel badly for him and have respect that he hasn't absolutely slated her, which he could very easily have done.
pixieboots
05-02-2016
I don't remember BB broadcasting Steph claiming he cheated on her or hit her, did anyone actually see her saying this? All I remember is a convo with Gemma and Dani in the bedroom where they were saying "you should have told us this earlier". I might have missed it but I've seen almost every hl show

I think its very telling that he hasn't said a word, he obviously wants to talk to her before he says anything (if he ever does say anything) and that demonstrates a decent man. Jeremy would be incapable of keeping schtum under the same circumstances, it makes me when she goes on about having a proper bf at last, she's in for a big shock.

Whatever the facts about their relationship you don't discuss dumping somebody by text on TV like that, its just wrong. I think she actually believes in her own lies at this stage, the sign of pathological liar.
kitkat1971
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“I dont feel sorry for him at all bcause I have been treated the way he treated Steph and made to feel unworthy.Paid for everything inluding the mortage.I know what it takes to get out and I can feel her anger. You cant deal with someone like that any other way.He emotionally abused her.I cant even remember what my ex looks like and we have children,he lives 10 mins away.

Steph has a right to be angry and call him a knob head.She is angry for allowing it to go on.

I am glad she has put herself first as I did and got out.”

I feel great sympathy for what you endured and we'll done on getting it out - it must have been very hard and taken great strength and courage.

If Stephanie has been in the same situation, she also has my sympathy and i wish her every luck.

But i feel I must point out that these are only allegations (and not even directly from Stephanie) and might not be true. Of that is the case then Sam is being done a great disservice.

Given how successful at a young age stephanie has been, she is likely to have been earning a good salary, probably more than him in which case it is more than possible she did used to pay for a lot of things. If he took advantage of that, spent extravagantly and expected her to foot the bill then he was freeloading. But if he was willing to pay for more modest meals / holidays but stephanie preferred to go to swankier places, more in keeping with her level of fame, then it isn't really his fault that he couldn't afford it so she had to pay.

I'm just saying this vbecause I earnt more than my Husband the first couple of years we were together as he was still taking professional exams and i paid for nearly everything, mortgage, meals out etc. But once qualified, his salary trebled so he was earning much more than me at which point he took olver the majority of our financial commitments.

So sometimes in a relationship, it is swings and roundabouts and somebody paying for most things doesn't actually automatically mean the other is taking advantage, just that it is the current financial situation that they are better off so if you want to do nice things, one has to foot the bill for the other.

We really don't know what the truth of the situation is, only they do.
Flora_McDonald
05-02-2016
I think what Steph has done to him is just terrible.

Whatever the truth of the situation, Jeremy had the impression she'd never been taken on hols, but there are countless holiday photos on Sam's page, and one of his tweets is complaining about trouble he had when booking one of those holiday with Thomsons.

I don't think he's cashing in on it at all. He could have filled the tabloids daily with interviews, photoshoots in their shared home, photos from their countless holidays, and more. This could have been a cash cow for him, but he has refused to say a word against her, about the situation, or to defend himself.

I feel very, very sorry for him. He obviously thought the world of her and must be heart-broken.
sheils1
05-02-2016
anyone feel a bit sorry for sam?


Who is Sam? Is he a hidden housemate.
bambii
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“anyone feel a bit sorry for sam?


Who is Sam? Is he a hidden housemate.”

I think that's the point he's not a HM, yet he's been talked about, name dragged through the mud and he's not even been paid a fee!
An Thropologist
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“anyone feel a bit sorry for sam?


Who is Sam? Is he a hidden housemate.”

He might as well be. He has played a bigger role in this series that Scotty it seems.
Rhumbatugger
05-02-2016
I feel sorry for Sam.

Another victim of Steph's raving egomania.

Still, at least he's out of it.
kitkat1971
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“Bloody hell.PAs are paid cash they are not visits”

Well of course but the point is that they are part of his line of work as a model and 'celebrity' from First Dates so he was doing them before Stephanie went into the House.

If at these PA'S he is talking about Stephanie and him doing that is the only reason he is being hired - then Yesn cashing in.

If he isn't mentioning her, then I don't see how his status as her ex has any bearing on it.

It's like saying Stephanie only gets hired for things because of her status as Zayn Malik's ex. If she doesn't talke about him, it has no bearing on any PA she makes.
minxymoo
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“I feel sorry for Sam.

Another victim of Steph's raving egomania.

Still, at least he's out of it.”

hes the only one to come out of this tacky sordid undignified mess with any dignity or credibility. well rid of that immature woman child.keep running sam.
NeenieGee
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by bambii:
“Yep I agree completely with this.
Its all the HM'S coming out slating him that's made me uncomfortable watching... it's all on her word, which stands for nothing at the moment... the only thing that's crystal clear is she is a liar.”

I agree Bambii, as I said on another thread, I find this aspect so unbearable I haven't watched this week. I feel outrage, and that is even with my understanding that I don't know what Sam is really like ... but all I know of him really is that he hasn't thrown Stephanie or any of the others under a bus the way they are him.
Flora_McDonald
05-02-2016
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I feel great sympathy for what you endured and we'll done on getting it out - it must have been very hard and taken great strength and courage.

If Stephanie has been in the same situation, she also has my sympathy and i wish her every luck.

But i feel I must point out that these are only allegations (and not even directly from Stephanie) and might not be true. Of that is the case then Sam is being done a great disservice.

Given how successful at a young age stephanie has been, she is likely to have been earning a good salary, probably more than him in which case it is more than possible she did used to pay for a lot of things. If he took advantage of that, spent extravagantly and expected her to foot the bill then he was freeloading. But if he was willing to pay for more modest meals / holidays but stephanie preferred to go to swankier places, more in keeping with her level of fame, then it isn't really his fault that he couldn't afford it so she had to pay.

I'm just saying this vbecause I earnt more than my Husband the first couple of years we were together as he was still taking professional exams and i paid for nearly everything, mortgage, meals out etc. But once qualified, his salary trebled so he was earning much more than me at which point he took olver the majority of our financial commitments.

So sometimes in a relationship, it is swings and roundabouts and somebody paying for most things doesn't actually automatically mean the other is taking advantage, just that it is the current financial situation that they are better off so if you want to do nice things, one has to foot the bill for the other.

We really don't know what the truth of the situation is, only they do.”

I agree with all this. They've only been seeing each other for a year, and most people of their age would probably only afford one foreign holiday in that time, unless they're still living with their parents. Sam booked a holiday with Thomsons in October so he presumably paid for that one. Steph must be minted, having worked all these years while still living in her parents' home. She's lucky he was able and willing to go with her on all those holidays. Most people have regular jobs and wouldn't be able to take that much leave.
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