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Oh come on, that's just something made up. How on earth do you know that was agreed? The rumour mill concerning Beyoncé is ridiculous. It's like the whole thing about her and her family not allowing Kelly and Michelle to take centre stage. It's not that they weren't allowed to take centre stage...DC was all about Beyoncé, she was the focus and that was the point. Previous members weren't happy about hat and son left/were fired. It was Beyoncé and two add ons. Kelly and Michelle were obviously aware of that from day one and were happy with that. Beyoncé and her father used DC child to propel Beyoncé, and I think Michelle and Kelly were fully aware that's what the main goal was, and they were happy to go along with it. Michelle was doing gospel work even before DC by the way. All three are still the best of friends even today.
It was only about beyonce and two add ons after the other two original members got sacked. DC wasn't originally all about beyonce at all. It was started by four friends..They were equal In interviews and video exposure, I was reading an early interview with them recently and beyonce hardly spoke! it was not until around bug-a-boo that beyonce started to slowly get pushed to the front. The other girls could see what was happening and voiced there concerns and they were scrapped. Kelly stayed in line because she is like another daughter to beyonces dad who was the bands manager, so of course hes going to want the focus mainly on them when they started making it big. |
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It was only about beyonce and two add ons after the other two original members got sacked. DC wasn't originally all about beyonce at all. It was started by four friends..They were equal In interviews and video exposure, I was reading an early interview with them recently and beyonce hardly spoke! it was not until around bug-a-boo that beyonce started to slowly get pushed to the front. The other girls could see what was happening and voiced there concerns and they were scrapped. Kelly stayed in line because she is like another daughter to beyonces dad who was the bands manager, so of course hes going to want the focus mainly on them when they started making it big. |
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I've followed them even from the days of Girl Time. It was always about Beyonce. Her dad was manager. The whole purpose was obviously to make her into a solo star, which has worked so well done to them.
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In hinsdsight. But when DC first came out i dont agree that it was all about beyonce.
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Oh come on, that's just something made up. How on earth do you know that was agreed? The rumour mill concerning Beyoncé is ridiculous. It's like the whole thing about her and her family not allowing Kelly and Michelle to take centre stage. It's not that they weren't allowed to take centre stage...DC was all about Beyoncé, she was the focus and that was the point. Previous members weren't happy about hat and son left/were fired. It was Beyoncé and two add ons. Kelly and Michelle were obviously aware of that from day one and were happy with that. Beyoncé and her father used DC child to propel Beyoncé, and I think Michelle and Kelly were fully aware that's what the main goal was, and they were happy to go along with it. Michelle was doing gospel work even before DC by the way. All three are still the best of friends even today.
She has got far whiter. Didn't the eX members say in their book that her dad pressured her to be the lightest skinned in the group? I find that very believable. She's been very whitewashed on several album covers that she must of signed off on. |
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In hinsdsight. But when DC first came out i dont agree that it was all about beyonce.
And besides all of this, Beyoncé's success is down to Beyoncé. People can blame her and her family for the other members not reaching the same level of success but there was plenty of opportunity for them to strike and they didn't. They've all crafted decent careers for themselves with the exception of maybe LaTavia. But when you see Beyoncé perform you know who the real star of that group was. |
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Im pretty sure it was her dad that said ages ago that agreement about musical styles.
She has got far whiter. Didn't the eX members say in their book that her dad pressured her to be the lightest skinned in the group? I find that very believable. She's been very whitewashed on several album covers that she must of signed off on. |
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Im pretty sure it was her dad that said ages ago that agreement about musical styles.
She has got far whiter. Didn't the eX members say in their book that her dad pressured her to be the lightest skinned in the group? I find that very believable. She's been very whitewashed on several album covers that she must of signed off on. http://rollingout.com/2014/02/07/bey...hildhood-pics/ http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/enterta...younger-photos Oh... Skin tone in photos changes hugely depending on lighting, please explain how she looks darker in some photos from last year than she did in some photos from previous years? Does she bleach her skin, then 'unbleach', then bleach, then 'unbleach'? Interesting. People love to throw out this example as though it means something: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger...lbum(2003).png and ignore the fact that she looked like this in the video: http://healthshire.com/wp-content/up...zy-in-love.jpg She hasn't touched her nose either... again there are examples where her nose looks different in photos spanning the last decade based on angles and facial expression. Does she 'undo' her nosejob and redo it every now and then when she feels like it? And what do you mean by "natural-ish" hair in your previous post? Lol.... As for implying nobody ever commented on Blue Ivy's hair, that's pretty funny. Wilful ignorance. Oh well, I doubt you'll even bother looking at the links or even doing your own Google search, but go ahead and claim that Beyonce bleaches. Good for you. |
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Um yes it was. She was always lead and she was always the head writer of songs, and the group was built around her. The plan was always that they would find her the Jackson 5 to her Michael Jackson. The group was even called 'Destiny's CHILD' - singular, not plural.
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Check the cover on their first album.
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the four of them are standing in a line and have equal billing on the cover. in fact the two that were scrapped are in the middle. beyonce on the side.
Besides, Kelly and Michelle had more solo's in later DC songs than Letoya and Latavia ever did. In fact weren't ALL the later DC songs split equally between the three? Not sure what you're talking about tbh. |
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Again, I don't agree. She's always been light skin black, look at her mother. Black people tan as well and look different in different lighting. People constantly want to hold up pictures where she looks lighter and then when she is darker a week or so later people just ignore it... She's always been light skin.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1358119/Beyonce-Knowles-Why-I-believe-betraying-black-Asian-Women.html Skin whitening is big business for African and asain women. I've lived in India and there were adverts everywhere for skin whitening, Indian people on TV looked white and I constantly had people commenting on how white and beautiful my skin was. Very uncomfortable. Seriously what have people been saying about an African American child with natural hair? Must be kind of hard to be African american as the vast vast majority of women in the public eye use chemical relaxers. Tyra did a show on it that was quite good, although never seen her with natural hair. |
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the four of them are standing in a line and have equal billing on the cover. in fact the two that were scrapped are in the middle. beyonce on the side.
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Fair enough, I actually think she's gone back to being darker skinned these days. There was a time a few years ago she was whiter than Rita ora.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...ian-Women.html Skin whitening is big business for African and asain women. I've lived in India and there were adverts everywhere for skin whitening, Indian people on TV looked white and I constantly had people commenting on how white and beautiful my skin was. Very uncomfortable. Seriously what have people been saying about an African American child with natural hair? Must be kind of hard to be African american as the vast vast majority of women in the public eye use chemical relaxers. Tyra did a show on it that was quite good, although never seen her with natural hair. My favourite thing about the formation video is actually that she rocks blonde hair throughout. It's basically an 'f' you to certain people who try and discredit her heritage because their idea of someone who's black and proud is a Jill Scott/Erykah Badu type who rocks natural hair and burns incense while only singing soulful coos, they decide Beyoncé's weave and supermodel looks aren't good enough for black power. Beyoncé reminds people In this video that her idea of black pride is freedom. Why should white girls get to rock every hairstyle under the sun but black women must feel a duty to only go natural. There's nothing wrong with natural hair but at best, this attitude is limiting to women and takes away choice which is really the opposite of freedom. |
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That "soulful coos" is million times better than everything Beyonce put out so far.
And whats wrong with you people judging them by their hairstyles? Why cant they wear blond or rock their natural hair if they like without such BS? Black power or freedom? Oh give me a break. It doesnt mean that a woman is betraying her race or anything when she strightens her hair, wears dreadlocks or braids (believe me, BS like cultural appropriation fly around quite often when a white girl wears them) or gets a tan or whatever. That just comes down to personal style. |
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Skin whitening is big business for African and asain women. I've lived in India and there were adverts everywhere for skin whitening, Indian people on TV looked white and I constantly had people commenting on how white and beautiful my skin was. Very uncomfortable. ... Must be kind of hard to be African american as the vast vast majority of women in the public eye use chemical relaxers. Tyra did a show on it that was quite good, although never seen her with natural hair. Quote:
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My favourite thing about the formation video is actually that she rocks blonde hair throughout. It's basically an 'f' you to certain people who try and discredit her heritage because their idea of someone who's black and proud is a Jill Scott/Erykah Badu type who rocks natural hair and burns incense while only singing soulful coos, they decide Beyoncé's weave and supermodel looks aren't good enough for black power. Beyoncé reminds people In this video that her idea of black pride is freedom. Why should white girls get to rock every hairstyle under the sun but black women must feel a duty to only go natural. There's nothing wrong with natural hair but at best, this attitude is limiting to women and takes away choice which is really the opposite of freedom. |
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That "soulful coos" is million times better than everything Beyonce put out so far.
And whats wrong with you people judging them by their hairstyles? Why cant they wear blond or rock their natural hair if they like without such BS? Black power or freedom? Oh give me a break. It doesnt mean that a woman is betraying her race or anything when she strightens her hair, wears dreadlocks or braids (believe me, BS like cultural appropriation fly around quite often when a white girl wears them) or gets a tan or whatever. That just comes down to personal style. Also I love soulful music, I love Jill Scott and Erykah Badu's music, but my point was just because B is versatile in what she does from pop songs like Halo to RnB jams like Party to old skool like Love On Top to experimental music like 7/11, it does not mean that she cannot be black and proud, that's the point I'm making. |
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She's just sold out the Wembley Stadium date of the tour in 8 minutes. I suspect they'll add more dates.
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I kind of agree, in terms of political songs it really isn't all that but at least its something. When big "stars" try and do politics I never buy it, remember when Madonna tried to take a pop at the War in Iraq but shit herself and changed her music video after the Dixie Chicks drama. Its like they just want their point to get them publicity but not rock the boat to the point of possibly taking a career hit.
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Oh come on, that's just something made up. How on earth do you know that was agreed? The rumour mill concerning Beyoncé is ridiculous. It's like the whole thing about her and her family not allowing Kelly and Michelle to take centre stage. It's not that they weren't allowed to take centre stage...DC was all about Beyoncé, she was the focus and that was the point. Previous members weren't happy about hat and son left/were fired. It was Beyoncé and two add ons. Kelly and Michelle were obviously aware of that from day one and were happy with that. Beyoncé and her father used DC child to propel Beyoncé, and I think Michelle and Kelly were fully aware that's what the main goal was, and they were happy to go along with it. Michelle was doing gospel work even before DC by the way. All three are still the best of friends even today.
In WOTW, B sang 1st verse and Kelz 2nd and sometimes the bridge... I think that the press also chose B because of the hate. When Survivor came out on the back of all that nonsense with Tavia and Toya, people began to root for her. |
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Skin whitening is a result of trying to meet the W.S beauty criteria; the whiter the skin the more you are considered beautiful.
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She's just sold out the Wembley Stadium date of the tour in 8 minutes. I suspect they'll add more dates.
She added another date and they go on pre-sale tomorrow. It's for the 3rd July. I'm surprised they sold so quickly. I know she sold out her O2 shows previously, but still, this is Wembly Arena, no new album yet etc. It shows how people value her as a performer, as she's pretty much selling on the strength of how good her shows are. Will be interesting to see how the second show sells. |
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Hope you got tickets?
She added another date and they go on pre-sale tomorrow. It's for the 3rd July. I'm surprised they sold so quickly. I know she sold out her O2 shows previously, but still, this is Wembly Arena, no new album yet etc. It shows how people value her as a performer, as she's pretty much selling on the strength of how good her shows are. Will be interesting to see how the second show sells. They sold out so fast. 90,000 capacity too for concerts! I'm going to try when they go on sale for the second date at Wembley.
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i cant stop playing this song, I think it's awesome and the video is definitely one of the best she's ever done. Her getting to perform it at the super bowl was just the icing on the cake really. I'm really excited to see where she goes with this. Enough with bubblegum pop - if you're in a position of power to speak out, then you should. I'm glad she's highlighting the issues of police brutality in the us and the racial inequality that still hugely exists, especially in the south. Bring on the album!
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i cant stop playing this song, I think it's awesome and the video is definitely one of the best she's ever done. Her getting to perform it at the super bowl was just the icing on the cake really. I'm really excited to see where she goes with this. Enough with bubblegum pop - if you're in a position of power to speak out, then you should. I'm glad she's highlighting the issues of police brutality in the us and the racial inequality that still hugely exists, especially in the south. Bring on the album!
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They sold out so fast. 90,000 capacity too for concerts! I'm going to try when they go on sale for the second date at Wembley.