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Apart from Brian, who was the best winner?
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new_rose
28-04-2005
I liked Brian alot but it's a bit presumptuous to think that everybody thought he was fantastic. He wasn't as funny or interesting once Narinder was evicted.

Kate was the best winner.
Any person that beats a two-faced little cretin like Jade & a whingeing prat like Alex gets my vote.
Last edited by new_rose : 28-04-2005 at 13:10
sharon curtis
28-04-2005
E4 are showing a 20 best housemates run down shortly so we shall have to see where the winners come in the countdown.
CLL Dodge
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by new_rose:
“Any person that beats a two-faced little cretin like Jade & a whingeing prat like Alex gets my vote.”

Jonny beat them too.
new_rose
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by BBDodge:
“Jonny beat them too.”

Yes, he did.

And if it wasn't for the pesky Sun & News of the World bigging up Jade at the time, we wouldn't have had to see her again (or at least not that much :yawn: ).
a_asbestos
28-04-2005
Nadia - When the result was announced and it was seen what it meant to her. A very deserving winner
Bibbles
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by a_asbestos:
“Nadia - When the result was announced and it was seen what it meant to her. A very deserving winner”

She probably thought how nice to be voted winner as a transexual ex prostitute.EXCEPT when she came out of the house she realised no one had found out about her BIG LIE yet and so she had become a winner by withholding crucial information from the makers of the programme and the viewers who had voted for her.She had also deceived her housemates of course-including her so called friends.
CameronBB4
28-04-2005
I wonder if she really did withhold crucial information from the programme makers. Would they really not have known, do you think? I know the selection process was different for BB5, but I would have thought that the psychological examinations should have been along the same lines. Don't know for sure of course.
CLL Dodge
28-04-2005
It's not illegal to be a prostitute (keeping a brothel is) so Nadia was under no obligation to tell anyone of this aspect of her past.
moogester
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by BBDodge:
“It's not illegal to be a prostitute (keeping a brothel is) so Nadia was under no obligation to tell anyone of this aspect of her past.”

Legally no, but morally is a different story - hardly a role model is she?
HeatherD
28-04-2005
I'll re-post what I posted in another topic in reply to a post you made, Bibbles, where you claimed Nadia was "fake and false" - which you didn't reply to:

She wasn't fake and false at all IMO. She kept a few secrets that where rightly hers to keep, it was none of the other housemates' business. The whole thing about people being "fake and false", in my eyes, is about someone who goes out of their way to act like someone they're not, who holds back for whatever reason... just basically acting completely different to who they actually are. Whether you like Nadia or not, you can not accuse her of holding back her feelings or acting like anybody other than herself.

I can guarantee that every single one of those housemates had at least one secret, no matter how big or small, and they chose to keep it to themselves. Nadia's past isn't exactly something you hear everyday so I can understand why she chose not to tell a bunch of strangers who she had only just met.

If you were in Nadia's situation, would you walk into a house of 11 strangers, as well as millions watching, and reveal your deepest secrets that you hadn't even got over yourself yet? No, I didn't think so.
HeatherD
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by moogester:
“Legally no, but morally is a different story - hardly a role model is she?”

She wasn't a role model when she got involved in prostitution. I'm sure if she could of looked into the future and saw that she was going to be entering Big Brother then she would have thought more about what she was doing.

I don't mean to sound rude but no one is dumb enough to think, "Oh, my role model Nadia used to be a prostitute so I'll go and do it."

She is even more of a role model for me now that I know about her past as a prostitute because at one point she was on the verge of suicide, which has got to be the lowest anyone can ever feel, but she turned it all around and came out strong which makes me respect her even more.
Last edited by HeatherD : 28-04-2005 at 15:29
RKO'd
28-04-2005
Nadia is by far the best winner we've ever had, Brian would be second, Kate third and Craig fourth.
moogester
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by HeatherD:
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If you were in Nadia's situation, would you walk into a house of 11 strangers, as well as millions watching, and reveal your deepest secrets that you hadn't even got over yourself yet? No, I didn't think so.”


Your argument is negated by the fact that Nadia had agreed to let the millions watching know one of her secrets from the beginning. If she was that concerned about her personal insecurities becoming public knowledge, entering Big Brother was the worst possible decision she could have made.

I was not a fan of Nadia, but I do appreciate that millions were. I firmly believe the whole show was edited in her favour, but she did win, not all of us can have the winner we want (there was no winner for me in BB5, I found them all awful in varying degrees ), there would be no point to the show and this forum wouldn't be half as much fun Roll on BB6
dubbers
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by Bibbles:
“She probably thought how nice to be voted winner as a transexual ex prostitute.EXCEPT when she came out of the house she realised no one had found out about her BIG LIE yet and so she had become a winner by withholding crucial information from the makers of the programme and the viewers who had voted for her.She had also deceived her housemates of course-including her so called friends.”

ok, get over it! nadia won fair and square! I voted for her
dubbers
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by moogester:
“Legally no, but morally is a different story - hardly a role model is she?”

Why does the winner have to be a role model anyway? She was better to watch than the others in the last week put together
FinalBroadcast
28-04-2005
Nadia won... fair and square is the part I'd debate.
dubbers
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by moogester:
“Your argument is negated by the fact that Nadia had agreed to let the millions watching know one of her secrets from the beginning. If she was that concerned about her personal insecurities becoming public knowledge, entering Big Brother was the worst possible decision she could have made.

I was not a fan of Nadia, but I do appreciate that millions were. I firmly believe the whole show was edited in her favour, but she did win, not all of us can have the winner we want (there was no winner for me in BB5, I found them all awful in varying degrees ), there would be no point to the show and this forum wouldn't be half as much fun Roll on BB6 ”

BB5 was the best. No one was a waste of space and compeltely boring like BB4
dubbers
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by FinalBroadcast:
“Nadia won... fair and square is the part I'd debate.”

so waht if she was edited? They showed her bad points too when she argued all the time. Jason was a miserable plank. Maybe they didn't edit him but that's how he really was. Maybe nadia was really like that and they didn't edit her. How the hell would you know. Were you in the house?

Shell and dan both said they easily want Nadia to win because she was great.

Michelle, marco and Emma all liked her.

The only ones who didnt really like her were the JCs and vanessa who were just
HeatherD
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by moogester:
“Your argument is negated by the fact that Nadia had agreed to let the millions watching know one of her secrets from the beginning. If she was that concerned about her personal insecurities becoming public knowledge, entering Big Brother was the worst possible decision she could have made.”

She knew that and she took a huge gamble because she was still insecure about herself and she looked at Big Brother as a way of gaining the acceptance and confidence she graved. She knew what she wanted and she grabbed the chance with both hands when it was handed to her.
FinalBroadcast
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by dubbers:
“How the hell would you know. Were you in the house?”

No, but I watched more than my fair share of the live feed which seemed to suggest things that were not shown on the nightly show. That's "how the hell" I would know.
FinalBroadcast
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by dubbers:
“BB5 was the best. No one was a waste of space and compeltely boring like BB4 ”

BB5 was far from the best. It certainly wasnt the worst, but it was not the best.
Achtung
28-04-2005
The best is yet to come, as they say.
dubbers
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by FinalBroadcast:
“No, but I watched more than my fair share of the live feed which seemed to suggest things that were not shown on the nightly show. That's "how the hell" I would know.”

what was she like on the live feed then? Nasty?
CLL Dodge
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by dubbers:
“Shell and dan both said they easily want Nadia to win because she was great.

Michelle, marco and Emma all liked her.

The only ones who didnt really like her were the JCs and vanessa who were just ”

Victor had a lot of respect for Nadia too, and said she'd be a worthy winner.
The Dandy
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by BBDodge:
“Victor had a lot of respect for Nadia too, and said she'd be a worthy winner.”

I certainly didn't see him showing Nadia any respect IN the BB house
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