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Apart from Brian, who was the best winner?
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HeatherD
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by The Dandy:
“I certainly didn't see him showing Nadia any respect IN the BB house”

I know, me either, but he did say to Marco before Marco was evicted that the people he has the most respect for are Jason, Marco and Nadia [I think he also said Ahmed but I can't remember his name getting mentioned for sure] because they where the only ones that didn't sit on the fence and the only ones that weren't afraid to have arguments in the house.

He also said he wanted Nadia to win if himself or Jason didn't.
CPA
28-04-2005
I haven't really cared who won, by the end of the last couple of BB's.
The Dandy
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by HeatherD:
“...he did say that the people he has the most respect for are Jason, Marco and Nadia

He also said he wanted Nadia to win if himself or Jason didn't.”


Hmmm...Talk is cheap (& Victor's talk was VERY cheap) he should've SHOWN his repect TO her, actions speak louder etc
CLL Dodge
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by The Dandy:
“I certainly didn't see him showing Nadia any respect IN the BB house”

Well, maybe respect in the way that Roy Keane and Patrick Vieira have a lot of respect for each other.
new_rose
28-04-2005
I wanted Dan to win BB5 but Nadia was a worthy winner - & it was great to see her beat the clueless jungle prats.
Bibbles
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by HeatherD:
“I'll re-post what I posted in another topic in reply to a post you made, Bibbles, where you claimed Nadia was "fake and false" - which you didn't reply to:

She wasn't fake and false at all IMO. She kept a few secrets that where rightly hers to keep, it was none of the other housemates' business. The whole thing about people being "fake and false", in my eyes, is about someone who goes out of their way to act like someone they're not, who holds back for whatever reason... just basically acting completely different to who they actually are. Whether you like Nadia or not, you can not accuse her of holding back her feelings or acting like anybody other than herself.

I can guarantee that every single one of those housemates had at least one secret, no matter how big or small, and they chose to keep it to themselves. Nadia's past isn't exactly something you hear everyday so I can understand why she chose not to tell a bunch of strangers who she had only just met.

If you were in Nadia's situation, would you walk into a house of 11 strangers, as well as millions watching, and reveal your deepest secrets that you hadn't even got over yourself yet? No, I didn't think so.”

Nadia was the most false and fake of all HM's ever.That's pretty obvious to everyone-people who didn't like her,neutrals and a lot of people that did vote for her out of sympathy.They were all conned.
If you enter Big Brother anyone would expect everything to come out -even stuff from old friends and enemies that is made up.That's pretty obvious.I wonder whether Nadia told her agent before she signed up the contract with him? Do Nadia fans know that at all?
Also she has got very little work since the news came out by this time Craig Kate and Brian were all on big shows on TV.So something seems to be amiss here.Nadia has just been announced to appear on some hidden away show that Spencer from BB3 (evicted after 5 weeks) has just done I think.
Has she got a column for BB6 yet like all previous years people.OK magazine maybe as she's the winner of Bb5.
new_rose
28-04-2005
Nadia will probably get the News of the World column.
Michelle & Stuart have probably got OK!
Bibbles
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by CameronBB4:
“I wonder if she really did withhold crucial information from the programme makers. Would they really not have known, do you think? I know the selection process was different for BB5, but I would have thought that the psychological examinations should have been along the same lines. Don't know for sure of course.”

Oh that's new -you're alleging endemol did know that Nadia was an ex-prostitute -that would be big news?!So they withheld the info during BB5 and quite some time after-that would be manipulation.

If you interview someone can you tell they have worked as a prostitute in the past?surely not.
Bibbles
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by new_rose:
“Nadia will probably get the News of the World column.
Michelle & Stuart have probably got O.K.”

Who did that column last year?(or is that a joke-did they break the story on her?)
new_rose
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by Bibbles:
“Who did that column last year?(or is that a joke-did they break the story on her?)”

Anouska did last years column - in sexy therapist mode.

The News of the World did break the story about Nadia's past - but they let her tell it.

Nadia did a column for Celebrity Big Brother.
HeatherD
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by Bibbles:
“Nadia was the most false and fake of all HM's ever.That's pretty obvious to everyone-people who didn't like her,neutrals and a lot of people that did vote for her out of sympathy.They were all conned.
If you enter Big Brother anyone would expect everything to come out -even stuff from old friends and enemies that is made up.That's pretty obvious.I wonder whether Nadia told her agent before she signed up the contract with him? Do Nadia fans know that at all?
Also she has got very little work since the news came out by this time Craig Kate and Brian were all on big shows on TV.So something seems to be amiss here.Nadia has just been announced to appear on some hidden away show that Spencer from BB3 (evicted after 5 weeks) has just done I think.
Has she got a column for BB6 yet like all previous years people.OK magazine maybe as she's the winner of Bb5.”

She was in no way fake or false, she acted on her feelings in the house and didn't hold anything back, she was true to herself and everybody around her. Just because she didn't tell anyone about her past does not mean she was fake and false. None of the housemates that where actually in there with her, who knew her properly, have come forward and said she was fake and false and they where actually there with her, not just watching her on TV like you where.

Nadia knew it would come out and that is why she was so shocked when she realised that it hadn't. No one knows if her management knew about her past when she signed up with them but they didn't drop her when they did find out.

You can't blame the fact that Nadia hasn't been getting as much work as Kate and Brian because of her past. Jade gets more work than the lot of them and that's not down to all the other BB contestants having bad pasts.

Nadia has been getting a lot of work anyway but maybe because I am a fan, I actually look for news on her and know more about what she is doing than you do.
Bibbles
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by HeatherD:
“She was in no way fake or false, she acted on her feelings in the house and didn't hold anything back, she was true to herself and everybody around her. Just because she didn't tell anyone about her past does not mean she was fake and false. None of the housemates that where actually in there with her, who knew her properly, have come forward and said she was fake and false and they where actually there with her, not just watching her on TV like you where.

Nadia knew it would come out and that is why she was so shocked when she realised that it hadn't. No one knows if her management knew about her past when she signed up with them but they didn't drop her when they did find out.

You can't blame the fact that Nadia hasn't been getting as much work as Kate and Brian because of her past. Jade gets more work than the lot of them and that's not down to all the other BB contestants having bad pasts.

Nadia has been getting a lot of work anyway but maybe because I am a fan, I actually look for news on her and know more about what she is doing than you do.”

The housemates were licking her ****-including Vanessa who hated her.They can't change around again.

I guess her management would keep quiet about it.

What Jade does can't be classed as work-it's posing for photos and breeding.Nice money if it's that or benefit.

Exactly my point no else apart from a big fan knows what she may be doing.The big employers don't want to touch her -at least for now.Cameron has done lots of stuff but not national-I'm sure his fans would know.(if he has any)Looks like she should do lots of stuff in the london gay community I'm sure they must have adopted her as an"icon"-maybe she can do a Kylie
HeatherD
28-04-2005
Whether you think what Jade does is work or not, she is still getting more offers than all of the BB housemates put together. I don't particularly like Jade or dislike her, I'm just proving a point.

Not all the housemates licked her arse at all. Did Jason? Did Victor? Did Ahmed? Did Vanessa? Did any of them? The housemates you are referring to with that comment are her friends who are obviously going to be there for her because they are her friends, that's hardly kissing her arse.

Vanessa did not hate her, she said on plenty of occasions that she hated no one in the house, she just found things more annoying in the house than she would outside because there is no where to get away from it in such a small place. Nadia and Vanessa are now good friends as well.

Do you know any big employers? Please inform me if you do because then it will explain how you are so certain that they don't want to touch her. She has had plenty of work and the interest in her is still very strong, that's why there was such a big fuss when she went on Hell's Kitchen and the ITV2 coverage featured her all the way through.
Bibbles
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by HeatherD:
“Whether you think what Jade does is work or not, she is still getting more offers than all of the BB housemates put together. I don't particularly like Jade or dislike her, I'm just proving a point.

Not all the housemates licked her arse at all. Did Jason? Did Victor? Did Ahmed? Did Vanessa? Did any of them? The housemates you are referring to with that comment are her friends who are obviously going to be there for her because they are her friends, that's hardly kissing her arse.

Vanessa did not hate her, she said on plenty of occasions that she hated no one in the house, she just found things more annoying in the house than she would outside because there is no where to get away from it in such a small place. Nadia and Vanessa are now good friends as well.

Do you know any big employers? Please inform me if you do because then it will explain how you are so certain that they don't want to touch her. She has had plenty of work and the interest in her is still very strong, that's why there was such a big fuss when she went on Hell's Kitchen and the ITV2 coverage featured her all the way through.”

we were talking about the past winners anyway-Nadia has very little especially after her big secret came out.

You can excuse anything by saying its difficult circumstances-Vanessa attacked Nadia then said how great she was when she came out of the house and saw that Nadia was popular.(and Nadia attacked Jason did she?)

They don't want to touch her because they havn't given her any work-that's fairly clear.As I said all the other winners had mainstream TV work by now. Perhaps Nadia"doesn't want that"(you can use that next if you like)

Hell kitchen? every celebrity with nothing to do appears on that eh? free food and a few seconds on primetime ITV.I bet even Emma went on it.
I don't expect you meant to say it quite like that.
sharon curtis
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by HeatherD:
“Whether you think what Jade does is work or not, she is still getting more offers than all of the BB housemates put together. I don't particularly like Jade or dislike her, I'm just proving a point.

Not all the housemates licked her arse at all. Did Jason? Did Victor? Did Ahmed? Did Vanessa? Did any of them? The housemates you are referring to with that comment are her friends who are obviously going to be there for her because they are her friends, that's hardly kissing her arse.

Vanessa did not hate her, she said on plenty of occasions that she hated no one in the house, she just found things more annoying in the house than she would outside because there is no where to get away from it in such a small place. Nadia and Vanessa are now good friends as well.

Do you know any big employers? Please inform me if you do because then it will explain how you are so certain that they don't want to touch her. She has had plenty of work and the interest in her is still very strong, that's why there was such a big fuss when she went on Hell's Kitchen and the ITV2 coverage featured her all the way through.”


I'm sorry to be pedantic but how do you know that Jade is getting more offers than all of the other housemates put together?
The Dandy
28-04-2005
Without wanting to sound too cruel Jade is only where she is now (loaded and famous) because she's still our circus freak. She has no discernable talent, is average looking at best and was poorly educated. But when she 'kicks off' as is her well known trademark she amuses peoples and gets herself into the papers.
HeatherD
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by Bibbles:
“we were talking about the past winners anyway-Nadia has very little especially after her big secret came out.

You can excuse anything by saying its difficult circumstances-Vanessa attacked Nadia then said how great she was when she came out of the house and saw that Nadia was popular.(and Nadia attacked Jason did she?)

They don't want to touch her because they havn't given her any work-that's fairly clear.As I said all the other winners had mainstream TV work by now. Perhaps Nadia"doesn't want that"(you can use that next if you like)

Hell kitchen? every celebrity with nothing to do appears on that eh? free food and a few seconds on primetime ITV.I bet even Emma went on it.
I don't expect you meant to say it quite like that.”

I am not excusing anything. Vanessa excused it, not me. Many of the housemates have said the same and until you have been locked in a house with 11 other people, you can't really speak for someone who has.

Did I say being on Hell's Kitchen was a fantastic thing that anyone who's anyone goes to? No, I didn't. I just meant that she's obviously still popular if they made a fuss and had her featured all the way through when their was plenty of other celebrities they could of had instead.

You also didn't answer my question.
HeatherD
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by sharon curtis:
“I'm sorry to be pedantic but how do you know that Jade is getting more offers than all of the other housemates put together?”

I just said it because Jade is everywhere, everyone knows and has had a moan about it. I've saw her face on more magazines and newspapers than any other housemate.
sharon curtis
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by HeatherD:
“I just said it because Jade is everywhere, everyone knows and has had a moan about it. I've saw her face on more magazines and newspapers than any other housemate.”


Papped pictures are not offers of work though.
Bibbles
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by HeatherD:
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You also didn't answer my question.”

I thought I did.Here it is again if I read you right.

They don't want to touch her because they havn't given her any work-that's fairly clear.As I said all the other winners had mainstream TV work by now. Perhaps Nadia"doesn't want that"(you can use that next if you like)
Bibbles
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by sharon curtis:
“Papped pictures are not offers of work though. ”

She did get an offer though recently -running a beauticians I think on something called"Living TV"one of those cable channels that no one watches.At least thats proper work though she could even be the first customer-she would be their greatest challenge.Where the ****do you start though?
sharon curtis
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by Bibbles:
“She did get an offer though recently -running a beauticians I think on something called"Living TV"one of those cable channels that no one watches.At least thats proper work though she could even be the first customer-she would be their greatest challenge.Where the ****do you start though?”

One offer
HeatherD
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by Bibbles:
“I thought I did.Here it is again if I read you right.

They don't want to touch her because they havn't given her any work-that's fairly clear.As I said all the other winners had mainstream TV work by now. Perhaps Nadia"doesn't want that"(you can use that next if you like)”

That's just going from what you think. That wasn't my question anyway, I asked if you knew any big employers? That would be your only excuse for acting so sure that you know no employer wants to touch her.
HeatherD
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by sharon curtis:
“Papped pictures are not offers of work though. ”

There needs to be something going on with her for her to be in the magazines and newspapers. She is always getting offers and that explains why she's never off our TV screens.
sharon curtis
28-04-2005
Originally Posted by HeatherD:
“There needs to be something going on with her for her to be in the magazines and newspapers. She is always getting offers and that explains why she's never off our TV screens. ”


Yes she has children and has and breaks up relationships.

She's never off our tv screens? Fortunately I don't catch all of her many tv shows.
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