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Old Network Material Post
GreenLantern
10-02-2016
Hi Guys,

So I dropped these links into another post and I've seen other people dropping old stuff into other posts, maybe we could put all the pre 2010 for example stuff under one forum post:

Here is Three's first Pricing PDF and Web Price plans circa 2000 via the WayBack machine:

(Website Price List)
https://web.archive.org/web/20040609...nthlyindex.omp

(Pricing PDF)
https://web.archive.org/web/20040915...ce+guide.v.pdf

Here is Orange's Pay Monthly Plan Page Circa 2000:
https://web.archive.org/web/20000903...kit/index.html

Lets see what other old stuff we can dig up
GreenLantern
10-02-2016
O2 Retail Rates in 2002:
https://web.archive.org/web/20021201...0,,113,00.html
GreenLantern
10-02-2016
Was trying to find the old Cellnet Genie website (their online type sim - precursor to giffgaff) and the old Mercury website but can't.
japaul
10-02-2016
Cellnet 2G coverage in 1996
http://i.imgur.com/COlHJaz.jpg
binary
11-02-2016
Post Office Radiophone Service:
www.storno.co.uk/radiophone.htm
DevonBloke
11-02-2016
Originally Posted by japaul:
“Cellnet 2G coverage in 1996
http://i.imgur.com/COlHJaz.jpg”

Going back to the "only having 3 masts" joke and your question about whether I could remember what VO2 coverage was like back then, it seems that from that map there was in fact only about 3 masts covering South Devon at that time. How ironic!!
This was really before Orange and TM had properly got down here at all.
O2 and Vod just had antenna arrays on existing towers (normally TV masts).
Essentially just converting their Analogue to Digital but with no extra sites.
Here I have zoomed in on your map and you can see the coverage is pretty dodgy (remember, the geography is proper bonkers here).
I have marked where I think that coverage is coming from.
http://postimg.org/image/tsvx69z0f/
1. Ivybridge TV transmitter. Now EE 4G. http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/ivybridge.php
2. Marldon Beacon Hill TV Transmitter. EE4G (and Three 800 possibly) http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/beaconhill/ Some great analogue to digital TV conversion pics here.
3. Salcombe TV relay (off Caradon Hill). EE4G http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/salcombe.php

Note: None of these, to this day, have O2 or Vodafone 3G, let alone 4G.

"hand portable"??? What the hell is that?
Oh yeah, I remember now..... https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mo...2qp9izrywkM%3A
iTech
11-02-2016
Great idea for a thread. I have a real soft spot for one to one and found this advert!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5gZtAZjFyU&sns=em
David_Evans3
11-02-2016
Originally Posted by iTech:
“Great idea for a thread. I have a real soft spot for one to one and found this advert!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5gZtAZjFyU&sns=em”

Great advert. How about these from Orange:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o5DoNvtsY0 - The 1994 launch advert. Who remembers the bill boards that were just coloured Orange??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEL4Kga_oBQ
- Directed by Ridley Scott, this is a real thought provoking advert.

Dave
japaul
11-02-2016
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“"hand portable"??? What the hell is that?
Oh yeah, I remember now..... https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mo...2qp9izrywkM%3A
”

It took a while until they stopped showing a coverage layer based on higher powered car phones. I don't have an equivalent year Orange map but it was a point Orange used to make on their maps by saying their coverage was based on handheld phones unlike some other operators who base it on car kits. Here's an Orange map from a few years later in 1999.

http://i.imgur.com/BmlbLof.jpg
japaul
11-02-2016
Originally Posted by binary:
“Post Office Radiophone Service:
www.storno.co.uk/radiophone.htm”

At least it could do voice out of the box, unlike 4G!
nigelbb
11-02-2016
Originally Posted by japaul:
“It took a while until they stopped showing a coverage layer based on higher powered car phones. I don't have an equivalent year Orange map but it was a point Orange used to make on their maps by saying their coverage was based on handheld phones unlike some other operators who base it on car kits.”

Is it even possible to buy higher power car phones now that would get reception in marginal areas where handheld phones would not?
GreenLantern
11-02-2016
Ericsson SH888

http://www.gsmarena.com/ericsson_sh_888-112.php

Old Rabbit Network:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit...munications%29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I1MvLXY8P0
GreenLantern
11-02-2016
Also lots of old Cellnet info here:

https://sites.google.com/site/616cel...ect-definition
iTech
12-02-2016
Originally Posted by David_Evans3:
“Great advert. How about these from Orange:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o5DoNvtsY0 - The 1994 launch advert. Who remembers the bill boards that were just coloured Orange??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEL4Kga_oBQ
- Directed by Ridley Scott, this is a real thought provoking advert.

Dave”

Good old "the futures bright, the futures orange".
GreenLantern
12-02-2016
http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/...s/networks.php

Good stuff there also
binary
12-02-2016
Originally Posted by GreenLantern:
“http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/...s/networks.php

Good stuff there also”


I hadn't come across this story before...

Quote:
“Orange launched in 1994. Managing director Hans Snook almost had a Gerald Ratner moment when he claimed that customers did not want free calls. Orange's tariffs did not include One2One's free local calls offer.”

jchamier
12-02-2016
Originally Posted by binary:
“I hadn't come across this story before...”

I think they missed the fact that people bought one2one phones and found the network was so congested due to the free calls, they returned them and bought Orange. Some small businesses around my home did that!
japaul
12-02-2016
Hardly a Ratner moment as he wasn't saying Orange were total crap and in any case, Orange plans did come with inclusive calls.
ih8mondays
13-02-2016
Originally Posted by nigelbb:
“Is it even possible to buy higher power car phones now that would get reception in marginal areas where handheld phones would not?”

These days the premium/executive level cars have mobile phones and aerials built in - the Bluetooth connects to the sim in your mobile phone - sim access profile / rSAP.
ih8mondays
13-02-2016
Vodafone history and facts - including how it got its name...

http://blog.vodafone.co.uk/2015/01/0...f-vodafone-uk/
GreenLantern
13-02-2016
What was the old Genie website that was all green so I can look it up ?
Neil_N
13-02-2016
https://web.archive.org/web/20021201..._opr_chph_payg

T-mobile PAYG phones in 2003. I was on that network, and actually had the Siemens mobile. Was always more expensive than those on 02 and Voda.
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