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Old 12-02-2016, 13:30
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I have just received some television equipment from talktalk but sure of the setup procedure and wondered if I could get some advice on here as it seems a bit complicated to me.What I have received are 2 of model number PT201AV which I think are power points but may be wrong the unit is a Your YouView Box.If it was just a matter of connecting to the TV it would probably be ok but I have a Humax set top box connected and also a DVD player connected.There are instructions with the box but not being very technical minded will probably struggle.The TV is a Sony KDL-42W653A model.Any advice will be greatly appreciated.Talktalk may supply a engineer free of charge but will have to check that.
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Old 12-02-2016, 13:47
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The PT201AV units are PowerLine adapters. They carry a connection from your router to some remote location over the house mains wiring. They would be used to connect the YouView box to the internet if the YouView box and router are in separate rooms and you did not fancy running a cable between the two. Not needed if the two units are side by side and a cable connection is an easy option.

How you connect the YouView box up depends on how the other units are connected to the TV. You have two HDMI ports and one SCART on the TV. Do you need the Humax box as well as the YouView box? If not then that simplifies things somewhat. You just connect the YouView box via HDMI and the DVD player by either SCART or HDMI depending on which it has.

And I very much doubt TalkTalk will be remotely interested in sending someone out to do all the work for you, certainly not free of charge anyway

Oh and any chance you could press the space bar after a full stop, makes it difficult to read your posts with no spaces between sentences
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Old 12-02-2016, 13:48
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It's a YouView box which connects to the TV via HDMI.

The others gadgets are powerline adapters which connect the box to the Internet via your mains electricity. You plug one in near your router, and connect the network cable from the router to the plug. The other one goes near your YouView box, and again you connect the two with a cable.
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Old 12-02-2016, 14:31
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Power line adaptors, cue Winston for a diatribe against them (yawn).
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Old 12-02-2016, 14:38
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Power line adaptors, cue Winston for a diatribe against them (yawn).
Instead of trying to wind up other DS members have a little read of the RSGB website.

http://rsgb.org/main/blog/category/n...focus/pla-plt/
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Old 12-02-2016, 16:58
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Instead of trying to wind up other DS members have a little read of the RSGB website.

http://rsgb.org/main/blog/category/n...focus/pla-plt/
Why? Why read crap from four years ago from some silly little group of amateurs who have the same opinion as Winston (and presumably you) which is completely irrelevent? Powerline adapters are good. Shortwave radio enthusiasts are bad. That's all you need to know....
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Old 12-02-2016, 20:59
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Why? Why read crap from four years ago from some silly little group of amateurs who have the same opinion as Winston (and presumably you) which is completely irrelevent? Powerline adapters are good. Shortwave radio enthusiasts are bad. That's all you need to know....
Would you also say the emergency services, air traffic control, DAB listeners, FM radio listeners are bad as well?

Do you actually know anything about the RSGB or radio amateurs?

Power line adapters are definitely bad and when used as intended almost certainly illegal, although buying and possessing them isn't.
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Old 12-02-2016, 22:29
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Would you also say the emergency services, air traffic control, DAB listeners, FM radio listeners are bad as well?

Do you actually know anything about the RSGB or radio amateurs?

Power line adapters are definitely bad and when used as intended almost certainly illegal, although buying and possessing them isn't.
There you go. I'm sure the OP is delighted with that information.

TalkTalk are happy to hand out Powerline adapters like drugs in a school playground.
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Old 13-02-2016, 03:28
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Why? Why read crap from four years ago from some silly little group of amateurs who have the same opinion as Winston (and presumably you) which is completely irrelevent? Powerline adapters are good. Shortwave radio enthusiasts are bad. That's all you need to know....
No we are not, that's all you need to know
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Old 13-02-2016, 07:54
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Apologies for the following will know in fuiture. Oh and any chance you could press the space bar after a full stop, makes it difficult to read your posts with no spaces between sentences.
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Old 13-02-2016, 08:25
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Have just found another problem. On the back of the router there is the Broadband cable which goes to the phone socket but where the TV is located there is no phone socket. I will have to locate the router near the TV but how would I connect it to the phone socket this seems to be the only problem I can see
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Old 13-02-2016, 09:56
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Have just found another problem. On the back of the router there is the Broadband cable which goes to the phone socket but where the TV is located there is no phone socket. I will have to locate the router near the TV but how would I connect it to the phone socket this seems to be the only problem I can see
You don't need the router near the TV!!!!

Where is the router now?
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Old 13-02-2016, 10:43
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Have been in touch with TalkTalk and have arranged for a engineer to come and install it all on Wednesday and it is free of charge. The router is in the next room to the TV as that is the only phone point downstairs. The room where the TV is has no phone point.
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Old 13-02-2016, 11:48
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You don't need the router near the TV!!!!

Where is the router now?
BIt puzzled as to how the OP started the thread!
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Old 13-02-2016, 11:58
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Have been in touch with TalkTalk and have arranged for a engineer to come and install it all on Wednesday and it is free of charge. The router is in the next room to the TV as that is the only phone point downstairs. The room where the TV is has no phone point.
You can solve the problem yourself in 10 minutes if you read the posts above properly.

Router (where it is) -> net plug -> via your mains -> net plug -> YouView box

This must be on YouTube somewhere...
http://youtu.be/2hncHKynpH8
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Old 13-02-2016, 21:17
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You can solve the problem yourself in 10 minutes if you read the posts above properly.

Router (where it is) -> net plug -> via your mains -> net plug -> YouView box

This must be on YouTube somewhere...
http://youtu.be/2hncHKynpH8
NO, that is not the answer as it has already been established power line adapters are bad. A simple CAT5 cable between the rooms is the correct and legal way to go.
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Old 13-02-2016, 22:05
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NO, that is not the answer as it has already been established power line adapters are bad. A simple CAT5 cable between the rooms is the correct and legal way to go.
I suggest you write to TalkTalk and stop cluttering this thread with off-topic remarks.
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Old 14-02-2016, 11:19
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NO, that is not the answer as it has already been established power line adapters are bad. A simple CAT5 cable between the rooms is the correct and legal way to go.
Winston I'm going to call your bluff as people such as the o/p might worry that they and TalkTalk are doing something illegal. Power line adaptors are 100% legal otherwise very reputable firms such as John Lewis wouldn't stock them even if they were legal to sell but not to use. Either raise the matter with your MP or take out an injunction against the retailers. You will almost certainly need a barrister as you will be up against some very powerful people and as a result stand to lose or gain quite a lot of money.

Another poster gave the address of an RSGB website about them, as the site has posted no news in four years obviously they have been unable to prove their case but not had the decency to admit defeat.

You say people should use ethernet cables everywhere despite the fact that quick look through the posts on Digital Spy, a forum for people who have an interest in technical matters, shows that few have the competence to balance at height on ladders drilling their walls and making up cables. Neither do many people, especially wives, want cables dangling around doorframes as you once suggested.

By your own admission you are not a radio amateur and the stations you claim you want to listen to are so obscure that they are not even on the net. The world has moved on, I suggest you move with it.
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Old 14-02-2016, 13:10
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TBH Anthony I think you are right and most newer power line adaptors are better at suppressing HF interference, particularly inside the amateur bands.

I understand it was a really bad batch of BT adaptors which first started this off and thankfully things have improved, partly because the RSGB became involved in getting the message across to Ofcom and the equipment manufacturers.

I am a Radio Amateur and fortunately in my location I've never had any particular reception problems due to PLAs.
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Old 14-02-2016, 13:19
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I have had a go at installing it and am amazed everything works and do not need a external hard drive as can still use the Humax set top box for watching and recording but probably will need to change it at some time.Now have three ways of watching TV.You View Box,Humax Box and the normal way through the aerial.Just need to go through the instructions as to how to watch TV on the You View Box.
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Old 14-02-2016, 13:24
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TBH Anthony I think you are right and most newer power line adaptors are better at suppressing HF interference, particularly inside the amateur bands.

I understand it was a really bad batch of BT adaptors which first started this off and thankfully things have improved, partly because the RSGB became involved in getting the message across to Ofcom and the equipment manufacturers.

I am a Radio Amateur and fortunately in my location I've never had any particular reception problems due to PLAs.
I'm sure you are right, unfortunately Winston does a cut and paste every time they are mentioned and while it used to be amusing it has now come to a point where it could seriously worry less technically aware posters. If he wants to pursue his obsession he will have to take it to the high court for a landmark ruling which will be extremely expensive if he loses.
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Old 14-02-2016, 18:48
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TBH Anthony I think you are right and most newer power line adaptors are better at suppressing HF interference, particularly inside the amateur bands.

I understand it was a really bad batch of BT adaptors which first started this off and thankfully things have improved, partly because the RSGB became involved in getting the message across to Ofcom and the equipment manufacturers.

I am a Radio Amateur and fortunately in my location I've never had any particular reception problems due to PLAs.
PLT equipment is notched in the US amateur bands. This is because the manufacturers know amateurs understand the issues and will complain.

There is plenty of evidence out there of the harm they cause to other radio services and the less technically minded should note this.

The fact that TalkTalk give them away is terrible when there are so many better ways of doing the job.

If people can't install their own CAT6 cables as someone suggested surely the answer is to call someone in who can the same way as they presumably do for satellite or aerial cables. Wives soon calm down once they understand this is the best way.

Reputable companies will sell anything they are allowed to whether it is harmful or not. Just look at the example of tobacco which kills when used as intended.
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Old 14-02-2016, 18:54
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PLT equipment is notched in the US amateur bands. This is because the manufacturers know amateurs understand the issues and will complain.

There is plenty of evidence out there of the harm they cause to other radio services and the less technically minded should note this.

The fact that TalkTalk give them away is terrible when there are so many better ways of doing the job.

If people can't install their own CAT6 cables as someone suggested surely the answer is to call someone in who can the same way as they presumably do for satellite or aerial cables. Wives soon calm down once they understand this is the best way.

Reputable companies will sell anything they are allowed to whether it is harmful or not. Just look at the example of tobacco which kills when used as intended.

Go to the appropriate legal process or go away, your posts on this matter are just immature. As for "wives soon calm down" etc, it is obvious that you are not married, or ever likely to be unless you change your attitude to women.
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Old 14-02-2016, 19:46
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I have had a go at installing it and am amazed everything works and do not need a external hard drive as can still use the Humax set top box for watching and recording but probably will need to change it at some time.Now have three ways of watching TV.You View Box,Humax Box and the normal way through the aerial.Just need to go through the instructions as to how to watch TV on the You View Box.
You're welcome.
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Old 15-02-2016, 00:06
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[quote=anthony david;81512824] it is obvious that you are not married.[/.QUOTE]

WRONG.
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