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Are Jay and Aliona Dating
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notdebbiedingle
15-02-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“star89 post#66

Don't be ridiculous. If it was to come out that she'd cheated on Sean then a lot of her fans would be disappointed with her. And of course, most of her fans would agree it was wrong. However nothing of the sort has come out. Georgia has said she has not cheated and until we have proof then her word is good enough for me.
Sean has been remarkably quiet over the whole matter and surely if he was this cheated on victim he'd be slagging her off with the rest of them? Again, who knows?

The point is none of us know the facts. Are you suggesting us fans 'who think she can do no wrong' should dislike her because your personal opinion is she's cheated on and strung Sean along, all along (with absolutely no facts to base this on?) If the answer is no, then your dig at her fans was unnecessary. If yes, then - [/QUOTE





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Have you ever heard of Circumstantial Evidence??. If you waited for proof, most of the affairs will never be proven. I am only angry that she went out of the way to say "These rumours are very offensive". Please don't say it started after the series ended, no way would they have gone on holiday soon after. May be Sean is a very nice guy who keeps his affairs private. I am not judging the affair or the current relationship. I wish she had kept her mouth shut and done what ever she wanted.”

Reply, sorry not sure ehat's gone wrong here!!

So you don't think the reason she came out so strongly against those tabloid rumours in November could possibly have had anything to do with the fact that at the time there really was no truth to them & that they were upsetting her then boyfriend who she was still very much 'with' at the time??
I am not saying this was fact, I don't know the facts any more than you do but that would be my take on the situation!!

If that makes me into some sort of deluded naive superfan who thinks that Georgia can do know wrong then so be it, but I do prefer to give someone I've never met & am never likely to the benefit of the doubt rather than damning them without knowing any facts about their situation!!
virgo48
15-02-2016
Originally Posted by Shappy:
“I think Aliona enjoys the attention so doesn't hold back on being tactile. She almost milks it. At the tour, she was fingering his neck while staring intently at him, when she knew it was being highlighted on the big screen and the whole arena was focused on her. I think she enjoys the "power" she has over him but I'd be surprised if she left her husband for him.”

Exactly!!
Sarah777
15-02-2016
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Reply, sorry not sure ehat's gone wrong here!!

So you don't think the reason she came out so strongly against those tabloid rumours in November could possibly have had anything to do with the fact that at the time there really was no truth to them & that they were upsetting her then boyfriend who she was still very much 'with' at the time??
I am not saying this was fact, I don't know the facts any more than you do but that would be my take on the situation!!

If that makes me into some sort of deluded naive superfan who thinks that Georgia can do know wrong then so be it, but I do prefer to give someone I've never met & am never likely to the benefit of the doubt rather than damning them without knowing any facts about their situation!!”

I will repeat what i said before. I am not judging the affair or the current relationship.
I wish she had kept her mouth shut and done what ever she wanted.

Nobody is calling you deluded.
lemonnlime09
15-02-2016
Originally Posted by katt:
“sorry, dont agree

everyone is perfectly entitled to a private life, whether they are in the public eye or not and if Jay and Aliona dont want to respond to press trashy rumours they shouldnt have to

why should Jay (or Aliona for that matter) discuss his (her) private life with newspapers if he (she) doesnt want to?”

Like I said....she dosen't have to speak to the press,there are plenty of ways to put paid to romours like this.....I loved Jay and Aliona but the brilliant dancing was overshadowed by all the crap in the press.....maybe Aliona dosen't care but, I thought the DM comments were disgrace and I'm hoping the press leave her alone now.
lemonnlime09
15-02-2016
I don't know what went on with G&G but.....I do know her ex was at the final.....now for her to be on holiday days later with Gio well.....dosen't look right.....I know I wouldn't be up for a holiday with a new guy a few days after splitting from my boyfriend.
Lou_Black
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by Shappy:
“I think Aliona enjoys the attention so doesn't hold back on being tactile. She almost milks it. At the tour, she was fingering his neck while staring intently at him, when she knew it was being highlighted on the big screen and the whole arena was focused on her. I think she enjoys the "power" she has over him but I'd be surprised if she left her husband for him.”

I'm a big fan of Aliona's but I think you've nailed it there Shappy.
Elsa
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by Shappy:
“I think Aliona enjoys the attention so doesn't hold back on being tactile. She almost milks it. At the tour, she was fingering his neck while staring intently at him, when she knew it was being highlighted on the big screen and the whole arena was focused on her. I think she enjoys the "power" she has over him but I'd be surprised if she left her husband for him.”

There was an odd rumour that some of the male pros didn't like dancing with Aliona because she was too touchy-feeling with them - or overtly sexual - something like that

And now this? It's just weird how she fondles Jay - and those photos, right in front of a large window and her in that mini-mini-split-skirt - it's just not normal. The most "understandable" excuse I can come up with is that she wants the publicity (and so does Jay - and Vincent is in on the scheme.) Any other excuse = she's just weird. If she was having an affair with Jay, it would be easy to do it in private and not this "foreplay on show" mess. It's disgusting - and would be, even if she weren't married.
fatskia
16-02-2016
She's not dating Christopher either.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...118fd9906d.jpg
Ano
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by Elsa:
“There was an odd rumour that some of the male pros didn't like dancing with Aliona because she was too touchy-feeling with them - or overtly sexual - something like that

And now this? It's just weird how she fondles Jay - and those photos, right in front of a large window and her in that mini-mini-split-skirt - it's just not normal. The most "understandable" excuse I can come up with is that she wants the publicity (and so does Jay - and Vincent is in on the scheme.) Any other excuse = she's just weird. If she was having an affair with Jay, it would be easy to do it in private and not this "foreplay on show" mess. It's disgusting - and would be, even if she weren't married.”

Oh god I need this evidence😂😂 Apparently Male pro dancers didn't like dancing with her because she was too touchy feely! Now this is an all time low even for you detractors strictly is over but you still have the urge to call her vile names and make her out to be something she isn't! Maybe just leave the woman alone, I need to know if labelling her these things make you people feel better about yourself?? Serious question by the way
Ano
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“She's not dating Christopher either.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...118fd9906d.jpg”

Nono fatskia Aliona is dating everyone don't you know! The next person she is seen with she is automatically dating them and is classed as 'disgusting'
Elsa
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by Ano:
“Oh god I need this evidence😂😂 Apparently Male pro dancers didn't like dancing with her because she was too touchy feely! Now this is an all time low even for you detractors strictly is over but you still have the urge to call her vile names and make her out to be something she isn't! Maybe just leave the woman alone, I need to know if labelling her these things make you people feel better about yourself?? Serious question by the way”

Do you really think the way Aliona behaves with Jay is appropriate??

Anyway, I like Aliona. And if this is a publicity-pursuing thing, well, that's fine - I get it. And still like her. But if her husband isn't in on it, then I have to say I don't like that kind of behaviour and therefore, I don't like her as much.

But I think any objective person who never heard of her before watched how she paws Jay, and they found out she was married to someone else, would feel just as I do. I have no agenda. I even think open marriages are cool and good for them (if that's the case)

Oh and I didn't make the rumour up - just reporting what I read somewhere - because it seems pertinent to the case
shaposh101
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by Elsa:
“There was an odd rumour that some of the male pros didn't like dancing with Aliona because she was too touchy-feeling with them - or overtly sexual - something like that .”

That was one completely unsubstantiated post on here from about 5 years ago as to why Pasha and Aliona weren't paired together in group dances that could've been explained by a myriad of other reasons. Seeing as they have in fact danced together multiple times since, including in the most recent series, it strikes me as a bit unfair to use that as a stick to beat her with.
Ano
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by shaposh101:
“That was one completely unsubstantiated post on here from about 5 years ago as to why Pasha and Aliona weren't paired together in group dances that could've been explained by a myriad of other reasons. Seeing as they have in fact danced together multiple times since, including in the most recent series, it strikes me as a bit unfair to use that as a stick to beat her with.”

I've never as an avid Aliona supporter for a LONG time have not ever witnessed or heard of this so called rumour it's just disgraceful as to why people would feel the need to say such things about a woman who has undoubtably provided well me and a lot of other individuals with proper dancing and her personality is well have no words for it! I would love a friend like her she seems caring and just likeable now if people can't see that then I advice these people to leave her alone! Judging her personally well that's one thing I feel strongly against, wouldn't like her to stumble across some of these posts on here well let's face it she wouldn't give a flying toss I'm presuming she's extremely happy at the place she is now. Rant over. Lol
lemonnlime09
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by Ano:
“I've never as an avid Aliona supporter for a LONG time have not ever witnessed or heard of this so called rumour it's just disgraceful as to why people would feel the need to say such things about a woman who has undoubtably provided well me and a lot of other individuals with proper dancing and her personality is well have no words for it! I would love a friend like her she seems caring and just likeable now if people can't see that then I advice these people to leave her alone! Judging her personally well that's one thing I feel strongly against, wouldn't like her to stumble across some of these posts on here well let's face it she wouldn't give a flying toss I'm presuming she's extremely happy at the place she is now. Rant over. Lol”

i do agree some of the things being said are ridiculous......also why would she need publicity if she is leaving the dancing world for a home life.....I do think however there is feelings between her and Jay,whatever they may be.....I just hope both are happy and get peace from the press whatever they do.
StrictlyRed
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by Elsa:
“There was an odd rumour that some of the male pros didn't like dancing with Aliona because she was too touchy-feeling with them - or overtly sexual - something like that
”

I read a good quote about rumours the other day......

"Always remember - rumours are carried by haters, spread by fools and accepted by idiots".

Not suggesting that anyone on here falls into that category - just sharing.
fatskia
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by Ano:
“Nono fatskia Aliona is dating everyone don't you know! The next person she is seen with she is automatically dating them and is classed as 'disgusting'”

One of my opinions is that one of the worst things you can do is start to live your life based on the judgements of others. It's better to be your own judge and be honest with yourself.

Jay said.. 'people will write whatever they want to write' - and he's right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5stl0tS36g

Even the Daily Mail, which has an interest in making it look as salacious as possible, added that 'The two looked to be doing some practiced choreography'

So I think they are right to be themselves and not necessarily change their behaviour based on their expectations of how others may judge them. There are thousands of people keen to judge them, and all will judge them differently, and all based on very little knowledge.
Muggsy
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyRed:
“I read a good quote about rumours the other day......

"Always remember - rumours are carried by haters, spread by fools and accepted by idiots".

Not suggesting that anyone on here falls into that category - just sharing.”

I like your quote.
Ano
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“One of my opinions is that one of the worst things you can do is start to live your life based on the judgements of others. It's better to be your own judge and be honest with yourself.

Jay said.. 'people will write whatever they want to write' - and he's right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5stl0tS36g

Even the Daily Mail, which has an interest in making it look as salacious as possible, added that 'The two looked to be doing some practiced choreography'

So I think they are right to be themselves and not necessarily change their behaviour based on their expectations of how others may judge them. There are thousands of people keen to judge them, and all will judge them differently, and all based on very little knowledge.”

well said ! sometimes I do think to myself what sort of people actually write these things like when their typing away at their keyboard do they feel some sort of satisfaction. But you have said everything that I think but unfortunately we live in a world where people get hold of a rumor and spread it like a disease. sad really.
edy10
18-02-2016
Had it been Kristina, she would've been called all names in the book.
edy10
18-02-2016
I should be shocked by these pics but then I'm not ; rehearsing or not how is this appropriate Like seriously She's a married woman . People here acting like there's nothing wrong ...would you guys be okay if you saw pics like these with your other half and a " friend " ? ( and plenty more like last year ) ?

Oh and will people stop blaming the tabloids ? Sure they are going to write whatever they want no matter what you say but can you blame them when you give them ammunition over and over again

I really don't understand how her husband has been okay or is okay with this PDA. That's breaching the line of appropriateness. I say this has someone who really supported their partnership last year. But then again, some people have interesting relationships I guess. ....to each their own. ....shrug.

I understand being a fan but sometimes you have to remove your rose tainted glasses and try to be reasonable. A lot of defending here but honestly had it been someone else. ...a lot of posts in this thread would've been different ( as they should ). This isn't okay. Dancing or not, she is carrying on over there as his girlfriend and not a married woman.


Thank goodness the tour is over; everyone can now go back to their regular life.
fatskia
18-02-2016
Originally Posted by edy10:
“I should be shocked by these pics but then I'm not ; rehearsing or not how is this appropriate Like seriously She's a married woman . People here acting like there's nothing wrong ...would you guys be okay if you saw pics like these with your other half and a " friend " ? ( and plenty more like last year ) ?

Oh and will people stop blaming the tabloids ? Sure they are going to write whatever they want no matter what you say but can you blame them when you give them ammunition over and over again

I really don't understand how her husband has been okay or is okay with this PDA. That's breaching the line of appropriateness. I say this has someone who really supported their partnership last year. But then again, some people have interesting relationships I guess. ....to each their own. ....shrug.

I understand being a fan but sometimes you have to remove your rose tainted glasses and try to be reasonable. A lot of defending here but honestly had it been someone else. ...a lot of posts in this thread would've been different ( as they should ). This isn't okay. Dancing or not, she is carrying on over there as his girlfriend and not a married woman.


Thank goodness the tour is over; everyone can now go back to their regular life.”

I'd say your reaction is the normal reaction.

When I saw these photos, I thought it looked a bit too much like a 'date'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...e-rumours.html

In this sequence, I interpret them as Jay getting too huggy (he's a very huggy person) and Aliona telling him not to - it's going to be interpreted that way from the tabloids.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...3974266584.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...3972206676.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...3973225814.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...3974349414.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...3974477340.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...3973503181.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...3972239492.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...3973558973.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...3973619649.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...3974792967.jpg

For the most recent photos, The Mail said
'And the electric chemistry between reigning champion Jay McGuinness and his dance partner Aliona Vilani was still burning strong as they took to the dancefloor after the Strictly Come Dancing tour live show.
The pair - who have vehemently denied that their relationship is anything more than platonic -showed off their stellar moves well into the evening as they practised their fiery routine, putting on a sizzling display at the after-party.'
and
'The two looked to be doing some practiced choreography as Jay rested his hand on his chest'

They were on a dancefloor along with some of the other Tour participants.
The photos seem to me that Jay was feeling sad (it being near the end of their dance partnership) and Aliona was encouraging him to dance and be happier.

During Strictly, I took the normal position and said I thought Vincent would be glad not to see Jay much in the future, but reflected and apologised for saying that, because there is no reason why Aliona and Vincent, and Jay and his family can't all be friends - and it does seem that they are. Its their lives and they should all be free to be friends if they want to.

Aliona has given up her dancing career at 31 to have a family with Vincent - that shows where her heart is and how strong their marriage is.
katt
18-02-2016
Originally Posted by edy10:
“I should be shocked by these pics but then I'm not ; rehearsing or not how is this appropriate Like seriously She's a married woman . People here acting like there's nothing wrong ...would you guys be okay if you saw pics like these with your other half and a " friend " ? ( and plenty more like last year ) ?

Oh and will people stop blaming the tabloids ? Sure they are going to write whatever they want no matter what you say but can you blame them when you give them ammunition over and over again

I really don't understand how her husband has been okay or is okay with this PDA. That's breaching the line of appropriateness. I say this has someone who really supported their partnership last year. But then again, some people have interesting relationships I guess. ....to each their own. ....shrug.

I understand being a fan but sometimes you have to remove your rose tainted glasses and try to be reasonable. A lot of defending here but honestly had it been someone else. ...a lot of posts in this thread would've been different ( as they should ). This isn't okay. Dancing or not, she is carrying on over there as his girlfriend and not a married woman.


Thank goodness the tour is over; everyone can now go back to their regular life.”

A&J have said, on more than one occasion, they are just friends - how many more times to they need to say it?

how is Vincent ok with the photos? its called trust! something that most people have in a relationship, its a trashy newspaper - why would he take any notice of it?

how many photos do you think the Daily Fail took to get "the" photo that would make a sensational headline?

its trash talk, believe what you want to believe but I firmly believe that they are nothing more than friends

and yes, I have taken of those rose tinted glasses you seem to think I am wearing!
shaposh101
18-02-2016
Didn't want to open this can of worms on the appreciation thread but they really do look quite couply in the last lot of Fail photos. Then again, we don't know just how out of context they've been taken (cameras can make one small moment look like a prolonged thing) and you can clearly see other people around them on the dance floor so it was probably much more innocent than it looks at first glance. Apparently her husband was at the Wembley show that night so he was probably at the party but out of shot- that's been the case a lot of times with press stories about them.

Still can't believe she's giving up her entire dancing life though.
Fee77
18-02-2016
Originally Posted by edy10:
“I should be shocked by these pics but then I'm not ; rehearsing or not how is this appropriate Like seriously She's a married woman . People here acting like there's nothing wrong ...would you guys be okay if you saw pics like these with your other half and a " friend " ? ( and plenty more like last year ) ?

Oh and will people stop blaming the tabloids ? Sure they are going to write whatever they want no matter what you say but can you blame them when you give them ammunition over and over again

I really don't understand how her husband has been okay or is okay with this PDA. That's breaching the line of appropriateness. I say this has someone who really supported their partnership last year. But then again, some people have interesting relationships I guess. ....to each their own. ....shrug.

I understand being a fan but sometimes you have to remove your rose tainted glasses and try to be reasonable. A lot of defending here but honestly had it been someone else. ...a lot of posts in this thread would've been different ( as they should ). This isn't okay. Dancing or not, she is carrying on over there as his girlfriend and not a married woman.


Thank goodness the tour is over; everyone can now go back to their regular life.”

Well said, and pretty much what I think. At the end of the day people can defend them all they want but they have no clue whats going on behind closed doors.
fatskia
18-02-2016
Originally Posted by Fee77:
“Well said, and pretty much what I think. At the end of the day people can defend them all they want but they have no clue whats going on behind closed doors.”

We will see in the future which was the correct interpretation. - but that doesn't mean there won't still be many different opinions.
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