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Old 25-03-2016, 23:21
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I don't know if its about Aaron putting Paddy on a pedestal. I think its about Paddy thinking about Aaron as a stepson. He hasn't been around the way he has in the past. If Aaron's family, he should be as important as leo. At the moment it doesn't look like it.

If Rhona isn't happy being with Paddy, then she needs to think about what going to Germany is going to accomplish. They'll have the same problems in a different location.
Oh it definitely is. It's the same with Zak. The thing is IF Paddy stays for Aaron he loses Rhona AND Leo. If he goes he loses Aaron. I know which I'd pick if I really wanted to make my marriage work. Like I said I think this move is a terrible idea and I don't care for Paddy but Paddy has tried to make some effort. Sure not as much as in the past perhaps but he's been around/involved more than Adam, at least from what we've seen. Now I expect we have to assume there's some off screen stuff between Adam and Aaron as like I said Vic knows things Robert doesn't because Adam has told her.
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Old 25-03-2016, 23:23
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I would think its more that Paddy hasn't been available that's the problem. Today it was definitely that he was leaving that was bothering Aaron. You have to remember he sees Paddy as his father figure. Abandonment issues
It seems Aaron seen a bit of him off screen but he doesn't seem to me either that Paddy has really been there for him like other times as even when Chas was talking to him about Aaron he was distracted by his phone & Rhona texting him & his own marriage problems. From my impression of today's scene, Aaron's look to Paddy said 'do what you want, i'm still p*ssed at what you did, not happy your going but won't say that out loud'.
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Old 25-03-2016, 23:24
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Maybe the "sad spoiler" about Aaron the week after the trial is about Paddy leaving Emmerdale...
Yes that could be it. A real shame. I hope we at least get a one to one long Aaron/Paddy scene before he goes.
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Old 25-03-2016, 23:25
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Old 25-03-2016, 23:29
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Oh it definitely is. It's the same with Zak. The thing is IF Paddy stays for Aaron he loses Rhona AND Leo. If he goes he loses Aaron. I know which I'd pick if I really wanted to make my marriage work. Like I said I think this move is a terrible idea and I don't care for Paddy but Paddy has tried to make some effort. Sure not as much as in the past perhaps but he's been around/involved more than Adam, at least from what we've seen. Now I expect we have to assume there's some off screen stuff between Adam and Aaron as like I said Vic knows things Robert doesn't because Adam has told her.
Yeah I don't know about that one. I think Zak is all about him cheating on Lisa. This is much more complicated than that. If his marriage is most important then Paddy should choose Rhona I guess. I think he'll need to be aware that he might not ever be able to really fix the relationship with Aaron. If it were me I would be able likely to forgive the affair, but not taking off for Germany for six months as soon as the trial ends.

Is it impossible for Rhona to understand that there are other relationships in Paddy's life that are important? It seems like a devil's bargain to me. If she manages to save her marriage at personal cost to her husband he'll resent her no?
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Old 25-03-2016, 23:34
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Yes and I understand all that.Just think that he has to realise that even Paddy is not a saint and people are all capable of doing wrong.It will have knocked him for six definately and saddened him but I would like to see him and Paddy get back to what they were
Aaron knows Paddy's not a saint, but he still never imagined Paddy could do something like that to someone he's supposed to love, which is why it's such a bitter pill for him to swallow. Aaron saw Paddy as the only person who never let him down/betrayed/abandoned him & looked up to him.

I want to see close scenes/chats between them again. It's one of the things I've really missed in Aaron's abuse storyline.
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Old 25-03-2016, 23:41
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There's a sad spoiler for the week after the trial?? What do we actually know?

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Old 25-03-2016, 23:51
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Those Danny / Isabel pics were taken early last year. They're from her Instagram
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Old 25-03-2016, 23:52
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Old 25-03-2016, 23:53
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Paddy's not been around during the worst time in Aaron's life. I think that's really magnified this whole issue of the affair. If Paddy had an affair any other time it wouldn't have hurt as much. I don't think this is about Aaron moralizing over an affair. The rift between these two is not about the affair.
Paddy's made excuses that he wanted to give Aaron space & not crowd him, then we see bits of him talking to Aaron/Chas. From observations they don't seem as close, but then I wonder are we supposed to think that Paddy has been there popping over for chats with Aaron/Chas more than we know of off screen. We know Aaron has been texting Paddy about some stuff.

It's true Paddy's affair coming out couldn't have come at a worse time, but the rift we witnessed started when Aaron found out about the affair. He was still cool with Paddy, but relented somewhat when Paddy said 'he is family' in David's shop. The relationship still isn't quite the same. Aaron may not even have wanted to go into stuff too deeply with Paddy as he knows he's got his own problems as well. I really do hope we get a nice long scene between them soon.
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Old 25-03-2016, 23:59
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Paddy's made excuses that he wanted to give Aaron space & not crowd him, then we see bits of him talking to Aaron/Chas. From observations they don't seem as close, but then I wonder are we supposed to think that Paddy has been there popping over for chats with Aaron/Chas more than we know of off screen. We know Aaron has been texting Paddy about some stuff.

It's true Paddy's affair coming out couldn't have come at a worse time, but the rift we witnessed started when Aaron found out about the affair. He was still cool with Paddy, but relented somewhat when Paddy said 'he is family' in David's shop. The relationship still isn't quite the same. Aaron may not even have wanted to go into stuff too deeply with Paddy as he knows he's got his own problems as well. I really do hope we get a nice long scene between them soon.
Yeah I think we will need a nice long Paddy Aaron scene at some point. I don't think Paddy will leave. I think leaving is a devil's bargain for Paddy. I don't think it'll fix anything. I know Rhona's been hurt but you can push someone too far in attempt to make them accountable. You shouldn't save a marriage at any cost.
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Old 25-03-2016, 23:59
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Rhona's definitely not going to be on her way to Germany as someone got a photo with Zoe Henry yesterday.

I wonder if Paddy goes to Germany on his own (doesn't Dom direct zombie movies or something?) Really think that could be the "sad" spoiler for Aaron the week after the trial. Just as he's seen his disgusting "real" father get sent down & Aaron's got justice, the man who is his dad leaves? I can't now see what else this "sad" spoiler is going to be.

Unless they've got another story for Paddy on the way, but I wouldn't have a clue what.
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Old 26-03-2016, 00:03
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Old 26-03-2016, 00:10
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Yeah I think we will need a nice long Paddy Aaron scene at some point. I don't think Paddy will leave. I think leaving is a devil's bargain for Paddy. I don't think it'll fix anything. I know Rhona's been hurt but you can push someone too far in attempt to make them accountable. You shouldn't save a marriage at any cost.
I'm not convinced that the move to Germany is such a great idea. Their marriage problems will still be there.

I do hope Paddy won't leave.
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Old 26-03-2016, 00:12
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Rhona's definitely not going to be on her way to Germany as someone got a photo with Zoe Henry yesterday.

I wonder if Paddy goes to Germany on his own (doesn't Dom direct zombie movies or something?) Really think that could be the "sad" spoiler for Aaron the week after the trial. Just as he's seen his disgusting "real" father get sent down & Aaron's got justice, the man who is his dad leaves? I can't now see what else this "sad" spoiler is going to be.

Unless they've got another story for Paddy on the way, but I wouldn't have a clue what.
Maybe an accident when they are going & one or both end up in hospital??
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Old 26-03-2016, 00:13
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Yeah I don't know about that one. I think Zak is all about him cheating on Lisa. This is much more complicated than that. If his marriage is most important then Paddy should choose Rhona I guess. I think he'll need to be aware that he might not ever be able to really fix the relationship with Aaron. If it were me I would be able likely to forgive the affair, but not taking off for Germany for six months as soon as the trial ends.

Is it impossible for Rhona to understand that there are other relationships in Paddy's life that are important? It seems like a devil's bargain to me. If she manages to save her marriage at personal cost to her husband he'll resent her no?
Are you suggesting Paddy should choose Aaron, a grown man, rather than the woman he claims to love and his other son? There's not one person on the planet that would do that. Now even if Rhona was out of the equation it would still come down to grown up Aaron vs special needs child Leo. Again I doubt very much anyone would choose Aaron. It's not some competition who he loves most etc, it's who NEEDS him most and it's not Aaron.

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Old 26-03-2016, 00:19
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Maybe Paddy and Rhona do leave but then Paddy returns?

If Rhona is going away for a while, I'm sure Cain will too
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Old 26-03-2016, 00:26
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Aaron knows Paddy's not a saint, but he still never imagined Paddy could do something like that to someone he's supposed to love, which is why it's such a bitter pill for him to swallow. Aaron saw Paddy as the only person who never let him down/betrayed/abandoned him & looked up to him.

I want to see close scenes/chats between them again. It's one of the things I've really missed in Aaron's abuse storyline.
Yes I know it is a hard thing to accept but also a realisation that Paddy is just human like the rest of us.Aaron would be upset nut I reckon he would get his head around it.Paddy having the affair has not meant that he loves Aaron any less.These things are not connected and having an affair doesn't necessarily make someone a bad parent-yes Paddy has been distracted by the affair but he still loves Aaron the same.I think the writing on this story for Paddy and Aaron has been bad
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Old 26-03-2016, 00:30
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Clips are on the STV site for all next week. There's no Robron related previews.
Everytime I've tried STV, I'm told I can't view it in my area. Thanks for letting me know though, shame they're no RobRon previews as I was really hoping for it!!
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Old 26-03-2016, 01:12
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Are you suggesting Paddy should choose Aaron, a grown man, rather than the woman he claims to love and his other son? There's not one person on the planet that would do that. Now even if Rhona was out of the equation it would still come down to grown up Aaron vs special needs child Leo. Again I doubt very much anyone would choose Aaron. It's not some competition who he loves most etc, it's who NEEDS him most and it's not Aaron.
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No I think its wrong to ask Paddy to make the choice. Leo has another father too. Marlon is Leo's biological father. He's not overjoyed he's taking him to Germany. He's choosing Rhona not either of his sons in my opinion. I don't understand how going to Germany is about choosing Leo at all. Are you suggesting Leo staying with Marlon is somehow harming him?

Does Leo really need Paddy more than Aaron? Really when he has two biological parents in the village that love him?
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Old 26-03-2016, 01:37
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No I think its wrong to ask Paddy to make the choice. Leo has another father too. Marlon is Leo's biological father. He's not overjoyed he's taking him to Germany. He's choosing Rhona not either of his sons in my opinion. I don't understand how going to Germany is about choosing Leo at all. Are you suggesting Leo staying with Marlon is somehow harming him?

Does Leo really need Paddy more than Aaron? Really when he has two biological parents in the village that love him?
Err yes because he's a child who needs more attention than the average child. Aaron is a grown man who lived in France for 2 years without Paddy.

I said Paddy is choosing Rhona and Leo because where Rhona goes Leo will go by default.

I agree with you it's wrong of Rhona but im loathe to criticise her too much because Paddy cheated willingly. I think it's more wrong to drag Leo away from his father more than it's wrong to ask Paddy to choose.
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Old 26-03-2016, 02:00
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Err yes because he's a child who needs more attention than the average child. Aaron is a grown man who lived in France for 2 years without Paddy.

I said Paddy is choosing Rhona and Leo because where Rhona goes Leo will go by default.

I agree with you it's wrong of Rhona but im loathe to criticise her too much because Paddy cheated willingly. I think it's more wrong to drag Leo away from his father more than it's wrong to ask Paddy to choose.
This is an artificial situation created an ultimatum given by Rhona. Paddy feels guilty because of the affair so he is agreeing. Aaron may be a grown man but this situation is highly traumatic much more traumatic than most adults have to deal with. Leo may have special needs but he also has two fathers who adore him. I don't think Rhona and Paddy need to be married and go to Germany for Leo to be taken care of and loved.

Look Paddy had an affair and he hurt Rhona. This is true but marriages are about 2 people not just one. Maybe being married is not the right choice. I think they need to think about that.
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Old 26-03-2016, 02:21
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This is an artificial situation created an ultimatum given by Rhona. Paddy feels guilty because of the affair so he is agreeing. Aaron may be a grown man but this situation is highly traumatic much more traumatic than most adults have to deal with. Leo may have special needs but he also has two fathers who adore him. I don't think Rhona and Paddy need to be married and go to Germany for Leo to be taken care of and loved.

Look Paddy had an affair and he hurt Rhona. This is true but marriages are about 2 people not just one. Maybe being married is not the right choice. I think they need to think about that.
Paddy isn't just agreeing because of guilt, he's agreeing because he claims to love Rhona and wants to stay with her. Rhona's reasons for leaving lead me to the impression that she'd still move away from the village even if it were to somewhere like Manchester or Birmingham.

Aaron has barely relied on Paddy this whole time so clearly can manage very well without him. IF Robert were to up sticks to Germany I think Aaron would be far more affected than he would be over Paddy.

Paddy feels saving his marriage is the most important thing for him right now, that is his choice to make. I'm glad you point out Paddy adores Leo, that is just a bonus of staying with Rhona.
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Old 26-03-2016, 02:44
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Paddy is not doing anything wrong by trying to save his marriage,in fact I think it is the right thing to do.Rhona wants to give him a chance where some wouldn't have-they would just have ended it straight away.It remains to be seen whether it can be sorted out though and whether Rhona can truly forgive him and move on.They won't know until they try.Aaron is a grown man and much as he has been through a truly awful time he still has others around him who love him there to support him.It is just unfortunate that Paddy has his own crisis at the same time.And yes he created his crisis and is totally to blame but I guess these things happen in life and can clash with other things and other family situations.It is a matter of prioritising and at this point Paddy needs to at least try and save his marriage.Aaron has lots of support and he knows Paddy does love him.Sometimes decisions like this have to be made and they are not easy to make
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Old 26-03-2016, 02:54
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Paddy isn't just agreeing because of guilt, he's agreeing because he claims to love Rhona and wants to stay with her. Rhona's reasons for leaving lead me to the impression that she'd still move away from the village even if it were to somewhere like Manchester or Birmingham.

Aaron has barely relied on Paddy this whole time so clearly can manage very well without him. IF Robert were to up sticks to Germany I think Aaron would be far more affected than he would be over Paddy.

Paddy feels saving his marriage is the most important thing for him right now, that is his choice to make. I'm glad you point out Paddy adores Leo, that is just a bonus of staying with Rhona.
Aaron can manage without him although I personally wouldn't say he's doing very well. Its not necessary for Aaron to have close relationship with Paddy. He hasn't been in the hospital for a bit. Leo can have his two adoring fathers. Likely Paddy will sacrificed a great deal of trust with Aaron. But if Rhona's more important by all means go away.
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