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Old 20-02-2016, 09:10
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I came across this quote yesterday and it sums up the MF and our AF very well:

Just because some people are fueled by drama doesn't mean you have to attend the performance. - Cheryl Richardson

So my advice is leave them to it and stay in our happy bubble!
Like this - and it seems to be good advice for life in general not just for DS posting!
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Old 20-02-2016, 09:12
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Rewatched yesterday's ep.. we really need more Rob/Adam scenes I've started loving there scenes as much as I do Chas & Robert.
I really enjoy the whole Vic, Adam, Aaron & Robert circle.

I can't believe the difference in Rob now he's away from the Whites, he's still him but theres so much more too him that we see now hes away from Chrissie, and i love how hes so involved in his family, in laws (Adam/Chas) & Aaron now, it's great
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Old 20-02-2016, 09:15
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Good morning everyone.

Tbf you only need Kerry in the pub when Chas announces it and it will be round the village! There wasn't alot of people in the pub when Chrissie outed Robron's affair but Kerry was there so naturally the whole village knew!
Kerry was very funny in the Woolpack that day. An excellent character.
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Old 20-02-2016, 09:17
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That's exactly it. I couldn't have put it better myself



They're gonna love next week! I'm gonna avoid those threads like the plague!
I enjoy reading them as the hatred is irrational: I would never post though. In the DS post they did said if the behaviour continues ( attacking posters) they would take further action. I would think that means pulling the thread as they have already banned people.
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Old 20-02-2016, 09:17
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Rewatched yesterday's ep.. we really need more Rob/Adam scenes I've started loving there scenes as much as I do Chas & Robert.
I really enjoy the whole Vic, Adam, Aaron & Robert circle.

I can't believe the difference in Rob now he's away from the Whites, he's still him but theres so much more too him that we see now hes away from Chrissie, and i love how hes so involved in his family, in laws (Adam/Chas) & Aaron now, it's great
love this
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Old 20-02-2016, 09:21
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Good morning everyone.



Kerry was very funny in the Woolpack that day. An excellent character.
vic: since when were you gay?

robert: i'm not gay!!

kerry: so what do you call this.. confused? or..

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Old 20-02-2016, 09:33
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I enjoy reading them as the hatred is irrational: I would never post though. In the DS post they did said if the behaviour continues ( attacking posters) they would take further action. I would think that means pulling the thread as they have already banned people.
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Old 20-02-2016, 09:36
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I know that Robert obviously just wants Aaron to be back in general but i wonder if he also wants him back for another reason? Like somehow i get a sense he wants him back so he can tell him something or ask him something, like he's waiting for him to be back so he can ask him if they could give things another go or something like that. It's like he can't wait for it. You know what i mean? Obviously when he does come back he doesn't do that straight away as there is a drama immediately but from the sounds of it it's not long before the subject comes up.
I know what u mean.
I thought this after he told Chas he ment everything & was going to prove it, I got the vibe that when Aaron comes back he would lay his feelings out too him.

Im still eager to know weather or not the do give things another go after Thursday, I no alot of us think nah them getting back to together right now is ridiculous with what's going on, but I don't think it is if they agree to take things slow & nothing intimate is actually happening.
This whole "where better friends rather than a couple" that Aaron's ment to say kinda says he's putting an end to there "let's give things ago" I'm probably wrong but it's just my take on how things seem.
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Old 20-02-2016, 09:41
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Have to say I like the mix of old and new Robert still need a bit of both and they shouldn't change him too much
I agree
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Old 20-02-2016, 09:54
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Sadly, I think for once she is right. How on earth would you ever get over something like that happening to you at 8 (and I suspect whatever age it stopped with Gordon, something of the sort happened when he was in prison last year, thanks to the gutless Andy and Ross, hence his depression), also of course there was the harrowing accident with Jackson and all that followed that.

All the counselling in the world will never eradicate it. You might be able to control it during the day, but you still have dreams and nightmares. Also the way the NHS Mental Health Service is to day Aaron would probably get six sessions of CBT in six months time or a "Mindfulness" course (God help him ). The treatment he got for self-harming was useless, and not a word was heard from the mental health nurse (Tom?) who saw him in hospital a few weeks ago.


Are you saying Aaron was sexually assaulted in prison?? I really hope not. Still watching the 'who shot Robert' plot & have not got to Aaron in prison!!
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Old 20-02-2016, 09:57
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Sorry have to stick up for the NHS here (I work in mental health there so feel obliged to!!!) - Aaron probably would have to go on a waiting list (but if he was assessed as needing urgent treatment he WOULD get it) because there is, very unfortunately, far more need for therapeutic interventions than there is the capacity to provide it BUT when he did reach the top of the list he would get the treatment he NEEDED. And in his case I don't think that would be six sessions of CBT (although CBT is a recommended, evidence-based treatment for PTSD) or mindfulness (although that might be a part of his treatment because it can be very helpful). I'd imagine he'd probably have a combination of treatments - possibly EMDR (around the rapes) alongside some kind of therapy to help him deal with the feelings this then causes, which could be CBT but think I'd probably go for ACT with him, or there's psycho-dynamic or CAT which might work well too. But it would depend what Aaron wanted/was able to do too.


Sorry as I said am probably being a bit precious but I do know there is this sense that it is almost impossible to get mental health support from the NHS and that just isn't true. In the service I work for, for example, people can be seen the next day if they need it and are sometimes then taken on straight away from that point (rather than going on to the waiting list) depending on their level of need.
I work for the NHS too (albeit an Admin) for the CCG, so I agree as would my best friend who is a CBT trained psychologist!
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Old 20-02-2016, 09:57
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Aaron isn't the biggest lad in the world, so when he was 8 he must have been very small and looked terrified. Even if Sandra thought it was physical, rather than sexual abuse, she was a very hard cow not to do something about it. Gordon is quite a hefty chap - despite the cancer and treatment he has gone through

On the Chas running the pub thing, and having "enemies", take a look at You Tube for a Hylda Baker series called Not On Your Nellie.... when she is being tiresome I just picture Chas as Hylda Baker
Makes me sick. I know I don't know Sandra's full story but from what I know so far I think she's horrible. No way could I live with myself & do nothing!!
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:00
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No excuses for Sandra. I did suspect she was going to know, since I think they are basing this story on real life historical abuse cases. There were some prominent real life cases where spouses turned a blind eye to their husband's abuse.
I'm thinking the same. Her apparently wanting to protect Liv & to hell with Aaron & what he's going through doesn't wash. Best course of action would have been to report it & get the law to protect them all!!
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:02
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I doubt Adam and Vic's plan will actually come to fruition, it's obviously a plot for something and I presume it'll be a case of they'll do up the van and Vic will be set on going but Adam doesn't want to in the end, or there's something stopping him (probably either baby Johnny drama or something to do with Moira/Holly). That or maybe it is happening to make way for Isobel and/or Adam to take a break in the Summer.

Either way, I do agree they should have Robert at the scrapyard full time. He's obviously doing amazing there so it seems stupid in every way for him to suddenlly stop working there, I mean why would he when he has nothing else to do and why would Adam and Aaron not want him to when he's making them all so much money right now? Other than Adam being annoyed with him being around, that is. Plus if Aaron and Robert are in the friendzone, Aaron shouldn't have much of a problem with Rob working with him.
I'm loving Robert working in the scrapyard. I also think you're right about Adam, can't see it actually happening, something will prevent it.
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:07
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I know that Robert obviously just wants Aaron to be back in general but i wonder if he also wants him back for another reason? Like somehow i get a sense he wants him back so he can tell him something or ask him something, like he's waiting for him to be back so he can ask him if they could give things another go or something like that. It's like he can't wait for it. You know what i mean? Obviously when he does come back he doesn't do that straight away as there is a drama immediately but from the sounds of it it's not long before the subject comes up.
I heard a rumour that Aaron tries to kiss Robert but with everything Aaron's going through Robert doesn't go there & take advantage. I think it's more them building a foundation & friendship now & hopefully things will blossom from there!!
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:07
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morning everyone!
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:09
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Tbf you only need Kerry in the pub when Chas announces it and it will be round the village! There wasn't alot of people in the pub when Chrissie outed Robron's affair but Kerry was there so naturally the whole village knew!
Pearl is another one who wouldn't be able to keep it to herself!!
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:20
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Pearl is another one who wouldn't be able to keep it to herself!!
Yep. That woman has no awareness of body language! She couldn't tell that Paddy wanted her to STFU in the shop to talk to Aaron and she was totally unaware that Rhona was upset and wondered why she snapped when she kept rabbiting on!!!

Despite that I do like the character and she has always been fond on Aaron!
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:23
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I know what u mean.
I thought this after he told Chas he ment everything & was going to prove it, I got the vibe that when Aaron comes back he would lay his feelings out too him.

Im still eager to know weather or not the do give things another go after Thursday, I no alot of us think nah them getting back to together right now is ridiculous with what's going on, but I don't think it is if they agree to take things slow & nothing intimate is actually happening.
This whole "where better friends rather than a couple" that Aaron's ment to say kinda says he's putting an end to there "let's give things ago" I'm probably wrong but it's just my take on how things seem.
I agree with this. I don't see why there should be a problem with them officially seeing eachother. Robert would never push Aaron for anything sexual, he'd wait patiently until Aaron's ready for that and would just continue being the way he has been with Aaron. The only thing that would change is that he'd be his boyfriend and not just a mate.

Have to say I like the mix of old and new Robert still need a bit of both and they shouldn't change him too much
I agree. This is the Robert I've always wanted! I'm glad he starts scheming again, I know this deal with Ryan isn't the best idea because of Aaron's case but I am glad he's scheming, I've missed that side of him. I want him to continue with some of his old traits. Scheming, manipulating, threatening, saying horrible insulting things to people but being different with Aaron. Treating him well, protecting him and openly loving him.

I think if Robert and Aaron become a proper couple there would be some similarities to Cain and Moira's relationship (Robert being Cain )
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:39
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I agree. This is the Robert I've always wanted! I'm glad he starts scheming again, I know this deal with Ryan isn't the best idea because of Aaron's case but I am glad he's scheming, I've missed that side of him. I want him to continue with some of his old traits. Scheming, manipulating, threatening, saying horrible insulting things to people but being different with Aaron. Treating him well, protecting him and openly loving him.

I think if Robert and Aaron become a proper couple there would be some similarities to Cain and Moira's relationship (Robert being Cain )
To be honest I could do without the scheming, manipulating and definitely the threatening parts. I don't mind him being a little bit sneaky, or doing the wrong thing for the right reasons (like seems to be the case with this upcoming thing with Aaron) and I'm all up for him being ridiculously (and deliciously ) rude to people but I'd hope that with everything that's happened (the shooting, Chrissie, Aaron etc) there'd be a bit more character development for him than that.

And I've never been keen on the 'bullies who somehow get away with everything' trope in the Cain, Phil Mitchell vein. Cain is growing on me somewhat but I do still have a problem with his 'hit first think almost never' approach to everything and how he uses his physical menace to intimidate everyone!
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:42
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I know what u mean.
I thought this after he told Chas he ment everything & was going to prove it, I got the vibe that when Aaron comes back he would lay his feelings out too him.

Im still eager to know weather or not the do give things another go after Thursday, I no alot of us think nah them getting back to together right now is ridiculous with what's going on, but I don't think it is if they agree to take things slow & nothing intimate is actually happening.
This whole "where better friends rather than a couple" that Aaron's ment to say kinda says he's putting an end to there "let's give things ago" I'm probably wrong but it's just my take on how things seem.
Agreed. How can they go back to being friends if that's all they are this week anyway. The thing that makes me think they may be back on is the fact Thurs lake convo happens after the kiss. It may also be a case of agreeing they get back on after the court case or agreeing to get back on as emotional boyfriends rather than physical.
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:43
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I agree with this. I don't see why there should be a problem with them officially seeing eachother. Robert would never push Aaron for anything sexual, he'd wait patiently until Aaron's ready for that and would just continue being the way he has been with Aaron. The only thing that would change is that he'd be his boyfriend and not just a mate.
Yes, exactly.
The fact that Robert turns his kiss down, also shows he isn't expecting anything from Aaron which he'll probably explain to him, but he clearly wants to be with him. I can't help but think they agree to give things a chance (without any romance too it) which Aaron ends the following week & tells him there only friends.
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:49
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I think Aaron will get it out of Robert about Ryan as soon as they get in pub after that village scene. He can tell when Rob is lying. I still think for a moment Aaron may think about going ahead with it but then realise he cant as in Aaron is torn spoiler. I don't think it will affect case anyway as Ryan will just say he made it up cos he hates Gordon and police will let matter drop.
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:51
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Are you saying Aaron was sexually assaulted in prison?? I really hope not. Still watching the 'who shot Robert' plot & have not got to Aaron in prison!!
i don't think so
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Old 20-02-2016, 10:53
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Thank God for that!! x
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