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Pity it doesn't do G.Fast, looks like the plan is for plugging it in to a new Openreach G.Fast modem in the early days (when it rolls out).
I'm due to recontract soon so will delay that until the HH6 is available, then cancel BT TV and see if I can wangle broadband discounts *and* an HH6 in exchange for keeping BTTV. |
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Pity it doesn't do G.Fast, looks like the plan is for plugging it in to a new Openreach G.Fast modem in the early days (when it rolls out).
I'm not sure that BT has even firmly committed to G.fast yet, vague promises of "ultrafast" broadband could still be fulfilled using FTTP I am surprised that they've dumped the dedicated ethernet WAN port. I mean, they have a few FTTP customers who would have liked to use that. |
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You can now purchase without getting rid of discounts. Hub is £50 +£7.95 postage.
Mine arrives wednesday this week |
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Considering that G.fast is very much in flux and incompatibilities between chipset manufacturers have not yet been hashed out, it makes total sense not to include it this time. They were already bitten by VDSL issues with the HH5, which could be got around by using the Openreach modem, even though VDSL2 is about 10 years old
I'm not sure that BT has even firmly committed to G.fast yet, vague promises of "ultrafast" broadband could still be fulfilled using FTTP. Seems to me though from last week's media call that they are pretty well committed now to availability in 10 million premises for G.Fast and 2 million for FTTP, by 2020. Initially driven from FTTC-PCP cabinet pairs not dps. I'm about 310m line length from my co-located cabinet pair, so should be getting over 200Mbps when they roll it out, maybe more. They'll probably only do 160 and 320Mbps variants anyway, for a while. |
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I wasnt going to bother but it sounds good, have you got the contact number please or is it just the normal 0800 800150
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Yeah just that number
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You can now purchase without getting rid of discounts. Hub is £50 +£7.95 postage.
Mine arrives wednesday this week |
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After pre-registering for interest in Home Hub 6 I had email this morning from BT, offering me the new hub with a delivery price of £7.95 , and if I commit to an 18 month contract and pay an extra £2.94per month for that period , they will not increase my Infinity 2 broadband price from July.
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Well my special offer is for a 'free' HH6 in exchange for a £9 increase on Infinity 2 (£7.50 net as it includes the price increase) over an 18 month contract. It boils down to losing all my current discounts and taking an 18 month contract for my trouble.
They must think I was born yesterday. Idiots. |
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Ive not even bothered ringing them up after reading very similar comments all over the place.
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Ive not even bothered ringing them up after reading very similar comments all over the place.
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I don't know why people are fretting about this, it is after all just a router? I don't see any issue with the HH5, it certainly appears to perform as well as my Airport Extreme so should do me for years to come.
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I don't know why people are fretting about this, it is after all just a router? I don't see any issue with the HH5, it certainly appears to perform as well as my Airport Extreme so should do me for years to come.
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I don't know why people are fretting about this, it is after all just a router? I don't see any issue with the HH5, it certainly appears to perform as well as my Airport Extreme so should do me for years to come.
Personally I wouldn't pay for a new BT hub - unless it's free I wouldn't take it. I'd rather spend the money on a proper AC router, with more features, which I can take to a new internet provider if I decide to switch |
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I don't know why people are fretting about this, it is after all just a router? I don't see any issue with the HH5, it certainly appears to perform as well as my Airport Extreme so should do me for years to come.
No one is fretting, people just want a piece of the action, feels good to be an early adopter. |
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The new iPhone or Nexus are only phones and the new Playstation or Xbox are only consoles but there will be millions of people "fretting" to buy them.
No one is fretting, people just want a piece of the action, feels good to be an early adopter. |
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In my case, my HH4 is fine for browsing but not so good for streaming HD movies as my TV is in the opposite corner of my house to my router and although I have fast broadband, only about a quarter of that potential is getting to my streaming devices.
I can stream SD no problems but will end up getting stutter and freeze issues with HD, not all the time but enough to be annoying. |
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That's why I use Homeplugs - I find whether I use my Airport Extreme or HH5 wireless simply isn't good enough for HD streaming, especially if other people are using the connection at the same time.
I can stream SD no problems but will end up getting stutter and freeze issues with HD, not all the time but enough to be annoying. Poor WiFi connections are what the HH6/Smarthub is supposed to combat so as to reduce the need for home plugs or even wifi extenders. Quote:
Home wi-fi is getting even better with the launch of the new BT Smart Hub, a router packed with technology to provide you with a better wi-fi experience.
With the UK’s most powerful wi-fi signal*, the new BT Smart Hub uses the latest technology to help you enjoy wi-fi in more places in your home. The dual-band Smart Hub has seven antennas that give a bigger wireless range – more than any router from a major UK broadband provider. The latest AC wi-fi technology means you can use more than one device - be it a phone, laptop or tablet - on a fast connection simultaneously. Advanced filters block interference to help you get a more reliable signal with fewer dropouts, while BT Smart Scan technology works in the background, choosing the channel with the least congestion for the best wi-fi performance. |
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Doesn't that contradict your previous comment about not seeing any issue with the HH5?
Poor WiFi connections are what the HH6/Smarthub is supposed to combat so as to reduce the need for home plugs or even wifi extenders. I don't take much notice of all the sales hype (for that is what it is) I deal in real world situations and for me I don't think wifi in the home cuts it for streaming HD without zero issues. I use Homeplugs in conjunction with a network switch and find this trouble free, almost invisible and more importantly faster than wifi. If the wife decides to zap something in the microwave the wifi network gets crippled whichever router I'm using and that has been the case with two different ovens now. |
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That's why I use Homeplugs - I find whether I use my Airport Extreme or HH5 wireless simply isn't good enough for HD streaming, especially if other people are using the connection at the same time.
I can stream SD no problems but will end up getting stutter and freeze issues with HD, not all the time but enough to be annoying. Short of ripping up floorboards and channelling into walls I have found no way of resolving the issue so the Smart Hub may be the answer to my problems. I did not upgrade to the HH5 as it offered me very little. 802.11ac will not benefit me due to the distance between router and device. My problem is not wifi speed but signal strength and this appears to be the Smart Hubs main strength. |
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I bought homeplugs which have been totally unreliable which may be due to the electrical wiring in my house.
Short of ripping up floorboards and channelling into walls I have found no way of resolving the issue so the Smart Hub may be the answer to my problems. I did not upgrade to the HH5 as it offered me very little. 802.11ac will not benefit me due to the distance between router and device. My problem is not wifi speed but signal strength and this appears to be the Smart Hubs main strength. |
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Which Homeplugs did you purchase if you don't mind me asking?
I regret not getting the 500s now as they are older and firmware updates have been released however I believe the 600s are fairly new and there is little support at the moment for them. For a week they worked plugged in on different floors and then suddenly stopped working. The lights indicated that there was no problem but I could not make a connection. When I moved the receiving plug to the same floor as the transmitter they worked again so I put it in the upstairs room above the living room. Now they sort of work but I have periods of time where the signal drops to almost zero. I'm not sure if it is faulty. Its hard to prove. Looking at the reviews on Amazon, a lot of people appear to be having similar problems with them. |
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BT mini Home Hotspot 600
I regret not getting the 500s now as they are older and firmware updates have been released however I believe the 600s are fairly new and there is little support at the moment for them. For a week they worked plugged in on different floors and then suddenly stopped working. The lights indicated that there was no problem but I could not make a connection. When I moved the receiving plug to the same floor as the transmitter they worked again so I put it in the upstairs room above the living room. Now they sort of work but I have periods of time where the signal drops to almost zero. I'm not sure if it is faulty. Its hard to prove. Looking at the reviews on Amazon, a lot of people appear to be having similar problems with them. |
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I always call such people 'early mugs'. Let someone else have the grief. The wise man waits.
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I bought homeplugs which have been totally unreliable which may be due to the electrical wiring in my house.
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