Pity it doesn't do G.Fast, looks like the plan is for plugging it in to a new Openreach G.Fast modem in the early days (when it rolls out).

I'm due to recontract soon so will delay that until the HH6 is available, then cancel BT TV and see if I can wangle broadband discounts *and* an HH6 in exchange for keeping BTTV.

Considering that G.fast is very much in flux and incompatibilities between chipset manufacturers have not yet been hashed out, it makes total sense not to include it this time. They were already bitten by VDSL issues with the HH5, which could be got around by using the Openreach modem, even though VDSL2 is about 10 years old

I'm not sure that BT has even firmly committed to G.fast yet, vague promises of "ultrafast" broadband could still be fulfilled using FTTP

I am surprised that they've dumped the dedicated ethernet WAN port. I mean, they have a few FTTP customers who would have liked to use that.

I wasnt going to bother but it sounds good, have you got the contact number please or is it just the normal 0800 800150

I take your point about the final g.fast specs not being finalised, so yes a separate modem for that later on makes sense.

Seems to me though from last week's media call that they are pretty well committed now to availability in 10 million premises for G.Fast and 2 million for FTTP, by 2020. Initially driven from FTTC-PCP cabinet pairs not dps. I'm about 310m line length from my co-located cabinet pair, so should be getting over 200Mbps when they roll it out, maybe more. They'll probably only do 160 and 320Mbps variants anyway, for a while.

Yeah just that number

Tar mate much appreciated

Just ordered mine, the nice Scottish lady even gave me an extra £2 pm off my already discounted infinity 2 price.

After pre-registering for interest in Home Hub 6 I had email this morning from BT, offering me the new hub with a delivery price of £7.95 , and if I commit to an 18 month contract and pay an extra £2.94per month for that period , they will not increase my Infinity 2 broadband price from July.

Well my special offer is for a 'free' HH6 in exchange for a £9 increase on Infinity 2 (£7.50 net as it includes the price increase) over an 18 month contract. It boils down to losing all my current discounts and taking an 18 month contract for my trouble.

They must think I was born yesterday. Idiots.

Ive not even bothered ringing them up after reading very similar comments all over the place.

I would give them a ring as it seems they are more generous with discounts if you do phone them. As I said in my previous post I was given an extra discount on my infinity 2 price if I purchased the new hub for £50 + postage (although I had the email saying I would have to pay an extra £4pm.) Don't ring the 0800 number though, ring 01324 452504.

I don't know why people are fretting about this, it is after all just a router? I don't see any issue with the HH5, it certainly appears to perform as well as my Airport Extreme so should do me for years to come.

In my case, my HH4 is fine for browsing but not so good for streaming HD movies as my TV is in the opposite corner of my house to my router and although I have fast broadband, only about a quarter of that potential is getting to my streaming devices.

Perhaps because they want any of the new features it offers. You may be happy with what you've got, others may want the newest and best. Who knew that people have different opinions?

Personally I wouldn't pay for a new BT hub - unless it's free I wouldn't take it. I'd rather spend the money on a proper AC router, with more features, which I can take to a new internet provider if I decide to switch

The new iPhone or Nexus are only phones and the new Playstation or Xbox are only consoles but there will be millions of people "fretting" to buy them.

No one is fretting, people just want a piece of the action, feels good to be an early adopter.

I always call such people 'early mugs'. Let someone else have the grief. The wise man waits.

That's why I use Homeplugs - I find whether I use my Airport Extreme or HH5 wireless simply isn't good enough for HD streaming, especially if other people are using the connection at the same time.

I can stream SD no problems but will end up getting stutter and freeze issues with HD, not all the time but enough to be annoying.

Doesn't that contradict your previous comment about not seeing any issue with the HH5?
Poor WiFi connections are what the HH6/Smarthub is supposed to combat so as to reduce the need for home plugs or even wifi extenders.

Absolutely not - you will note I also included one of the best routers on the market i.e. Apple's Airport Extreme (latest model).

I don't take much notice of all the sales hype (for that is what it is) I deal in real world situations and for me I don't think wifi in the home cuts it for streaming HD without zero issues.

I use Homeplugs in conjunction with a network switch and find this trouble free, almost invisible and more importantly faster than wifi.

If the wife decides to zap something in the microwave the wifi network gets crippled whichever router I'm using and that has been the case with two different ovens now.

I bought homeplugs which have been totally unreliable which may be due to the electrical wiring in my house.

Short of ripping up floorboards and channelling into walls I have found no way of resolving the issue so the Smart Hub may be the answer to my problems.

I did not upgrade to the HH5 as it offered me very little. 802.11ac will not benefit me due to the distance between router and device. My problem is not wifi speed but signal strength and this appears to be the Smart Hubs main strength.

Which Homeplugs did you purchase if you don't mind me asking?

BT mini Home Hotspot 600

I regret not getting the 500s now as they are older and firmware updates have been released however I believe the 600s are fairly new and there is little support at the moment for them.

For a week they worked plugged in on different floors and then suddenly stopped working. The lights indicated that there was no problem but I could not make a connection. When I moved the receiving plug to the same floor as the transmitter they worked again so I put it in the upstairs room above the living room.
Now they sort of work but I have periods of time where the signal drops to almost zero. I'm not sure if it is faulty. Its hard to prove. Looking at the reviews on Amazon, a lot of people appear to be having similar problems with them.

Devolo are rock solid - you pay quite a bit more for the German engineering but they are good.

The wise man also dies incredibly bored surrounded by his old tech.

Make sure you buy AV2 ones with MIMO, the earth is also used then and they work much better on poorer wiring.