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Old 19-02-2016, 13:58
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Today is EastEnders' 31st birthday and I thought it would be interesting to look back to 1 year today when we found out that Bobby killed Lucy.
At what point did you suspect/realise that Bobby killed Lucy or that Jane was involved?
Some key moments including Bobby and Jane are:

1. DTC said in the first post that Lucy was going to be killed: ''No one knows exactly what happened to Lucy on the night she died, except very few people - even the person responsible for her death.'' (at the time I assumed he meant the actor didn't know - not the character - unless he's talking about producers etc.)
2. When Jane slept with Ian straight after Lucy's death
4. When Jane took Bobby away and left the Square
4. When Jane initially refused to come to Lucy's funeral
5. When Bobby ran away from Jane and was found sleeping on the Common where Lucy was found dead
6. When Jane hid Lucy's phone/purse or gave a fake alibi to Lauren
7. When Jane's car was missing in Jay's video (not sure how people realised this!) and when Emma said 'It wasn't there'
8. Jane being angry at Emma for digging into their lives and Lucy
9. When Emma waited and didn't immediately go to the police
10. When the BBC website didn't have a drop-down list with limited options to vote, for who you thought killed Lucy - instead you had to write an entry.
11. When Bobby randomly got screen time for his Winnie the Pooh speech at Ian and Jane's wedding
12. In the episode with live bits, Jane was calm when Denise was accused of being the killer
13. When the 1 hour live episode ended with Ian questioning Jane and the next trailer immediately after said there was going to be a 'Killer Twist'
14. DS Forum theories about it
15. You didn't suspect either of them until the reveal scenes aired

I personally thought that when they found Lucy's jewellery box under the tree, it ruled out the Beales killing her. I thought that the killer was taunting them with the weapon he used to kill her which would've been interesting (if their fingerprints weren't on it)

DTC also said in 2014 that 'Ian and the rest of the family realise that the killer is... a monster' which has finally happened. Funnily enough, the amazing trailer for ''There's a killer amongst them'' didn't even have Bobby Beale amongst all the characters (although it did have Pam and Phil).
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Old 19-02-2016, 13:59
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My suspicion with Jane began was when she hid Lucy's purse and phone under the floorboards. I just had a feeling it was more than just a red herring to confuse the audience some more.
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Old 19-02-2016, 14:11
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didn't cotton on until the reveal on the night. What a magnificent night it was too.
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Old 19-02-2016, 14:13
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Not until the killer walked in in his pyjamas. Dullag's Cindy theory made much more sense and I think the plot has been derailed with all the cover up nonsense.
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Old 19-02-2016, 14:38
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3. was probably the biggest 'in plain view' clue that the majority missed.

And 2. is still just creepy on Jane's part...


Off topic abit, but Denise's altercation with Lucy that night is the only thing [other than Bobby becoming public knowledge] still not revealed to anyone. It's abit odd to me [as everyone else has been found out].
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Old 19-02-2016, 14:49
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Never once suspected until about halfway through the reveal episode. Until then I was convinced it was Jane.
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Old 19-02-2016, 14:53
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I definitely thought it was Cindy up until the reveal. When it was 'revealed' to be Jane, I immediately suspected it was Bobby instead. So then, I guess. I completely missed all the clues.
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Old 19-02-2016, 15:03
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I couldn't comprehend that the producers / writers would be so stupid. They were. Who'd have thought they'd use 30th to destroy one of the original families. The character of the only original surviving member of the cast severely damaged.

This is the biggest issue facing the new Producer sorting out the Beale mess.
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Old 19-02-2016, 15:06
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New Year when Emma met the killer and it became clear things were murky and Jane started acting 'oddly'. It seemed clear she was very involved but it seemed unlikely it was actually her as i thought there needed to be more of a twist and also, why wouldn't Emma have just reported it immediately. From there the logical leap was she was covering for somebody and Bobby was the only person that made sense.

I wasn't sure until live week though when Bobby seemed to get more focus on him. I remember watching him do his reading at the wedding and just thinking, it is definitely him. And i didn't believe it when they were desperately trying to make it seem like Jane in the flashback episode. As soon as he opened his eyes after Ian had looked ih on him asleep with Cindy, i just went, yep, that's it.

In hindsight, Jane taking him away and hiding the phone and purse were huge clues but I think I wasn't taking notice of anything at that early stage as I expected red herring after red herring and thought i'd drive myself mad for months if I dwelt on it too much.
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Old 19-02-2016, 15:06
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Bobby being the killer never even crossed my mind. Bobby was a normal lad until the producers decided that they will turn him psycho.
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Old 19-02-2016, 15:37
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Bobby being the killer never even crossed my mind. Bobby was a normal lad until the producers decided that they will turn him psycho.
He changed head mid story so the lad who did it wasn't in show when Lucy killed. lol
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Old 19-02-2016, 15:46
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Even when it became clear that Jane was covering for someone at the end of the hour long episode I still didn't suspect Bobby, I thought Jane was covering for Cindy. I had no clue until the actual reveal!
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Old 19-02-2016, 16:03
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I had my suspicions when McBeale said Bob did it.

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Old 19-02-2016, 16:19
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New Year is when I started to believe Jane was covering for someone and the weeks leading up to the reveal I became convinced she was covering for Cindy - there were alot of good theories and it really made sense. It was only when Bobby did his reading at the wedding and the way it focused on Jane looking at him that I suddenly believed it was him, although still hoped it was going to be Cindy (and still wish it was tbh). Then when they made it very clear where Bobby was by showing him being dropped at Masood's rather then just a throwaway line I knew for certain.
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Old 19-02-2016, 16:21
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I'd seen people posting about Bobby being the killer as a joke for a few months before. Then when it was revealed that he did do it, it became just that - a joke. And still is a year later
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Old 19-02-2016, 16:54
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When it was revealed, didn't think they would seriously choose him.
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Old 19-02-2016, 17:07
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When Bobby went missing and was found on the Common was the first moment when I considered him as a suspect and when Emma said "it's still murder" I thought Jane was covering for someone. I wasn't sure that it would be Bobby but I definitely had him down as a suspect!

Can't believe it has been a year though. That week was amazing!
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Old 19-02-2016, 17:10
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Off topic abit, but Denise's altercation with Lucy that night is the only thing [other than Bobby becoming public knowledge] still not revealed to anyone. It's abit odd to me [as everyone else has been found out].
Bobby even heard Denise and Lucy fighting, yet he hasn't mentioned it. Also Ben was going to go to America with Lucy after getting out of jail the night she died. Lucy even told Jane in the flashback episode that she was going to America soon, yet Jane seems to have forgotten that.

I became suspicious of Bobby after they put in a scene of him randomly reading a poem. Then after the short 'killer twist' trailer I thought it would be Cindy or Bobby. However when they showed a shot of Bobby waking up, I realised that he would be the killer. I wasn't really happy with the decision of him being the killer at first, but the fully live episode made it seem like a better choice.

Also I find it weird that they recasted the killer halfway through the storyline. DTC could've recasted Bobby and given him more scenes before Lucy's death and claimed that it was so that the new actor could do crying scenes to show how upset a little brother is to his sister's death.
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Old 19-02-2016, 17:17
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I always knew it was a Beale but I was convinced it was Ian and that he had an episode and blanked the events from his mind. I thought Jane potentially knew and covered it up but I don't every think I fully suspected her.

Certainly never expected it to be Bobby though.
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Old 19-02-2016, 17:29
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I've often thought about the recast and wondered if perhaps DTC spoke to the original child's parents about the plot, earlier than we might have originally been told, and they were unhappy about some of the scenes he might have to do, or just the increased workload as he started secondary school.

DTC wouldn't necessarily have needed to tell them, or the new castings parents, that Bobby was the killer, just that Bobby was going to be needed for a lot more scenes, some of which could be challenging or upsetting and we're they okay with that? Of course they'd be a risk that the parents would guess and blab but it could equally have been that Ian or Jane had done it and Bobby would be traumatized by that.

Or they just found the original actor (can't remember his name) didn't perform as well as they'd hoped in the scenes surrounding Lucy's death so decided a recast was necessary.

I had (and have) absolutely no problem with Bobby being the killer. It did make sense, sadly children can and do kill and siblings fight. A horrible accident with somebody in the family was the most obvious, logical and tragic answer. I didn't even have that big a problem with The family deciding to stay quiet after the reveal or the idea that Bobby would become a ticking time bomb with real psychological problems which Ian and Jane couldn't get proper help for as they feared what would come out.

It has just been more and more people finding out and covering it up, including condemning an innocent man to Prison for years, maybe decades that has made the plot farcical and ruined several characters by making them (possibly irreedemably) ammoral and nasty.
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Old 19-02-2016, 17:33
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He changed head mid story so the lad who did it wasn't in show when Lucy killed. lol
You know that's one thing that still annoys me. NewBobby didn't even have a scene with Lucy - until he whacked her over the head!

Mind you oldBobby was atrocious.
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Old 19-02-2016, 17:38
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I thought it was Jane.
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Old 19-02-2016, 18:20
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I didn't suspect Bobby at all.
Mostly because the 'clues' we were fed - the EE website clues, the trailers etc - NONE of them included Bobby. Especially, "There's a Killer amongst them," with no sign of Bobby in the picture. All those police interviews on the website, the CCTV images of Lucy on the bus, LB Lettings website, photos hidden under Billy's fridge and so on.... none of it had anything to do with Bobby at all.

I know some people had suggested Bobby, but I just took it as a joke. Did not for one minute think it would actually have been him as that would have made too much of a mockery of all the 'clues' and the self-promotion by EE.

I still think it was a shit ending to a really great build up!

We had what was arguably DS's best ever thread on the storyline, with people trying to decipher the clues. And so to find out that we had been strung along with a load of bollocks was hard to take.
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Old 19-02-2016, 18:21
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I never suspected it was Bobby, but I did think it was someone in the Beale family.
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Old 19-02-2016, 18:23
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It was about halfway through the flashback episode. Jane's speech to Lucy about a mother always protecting their children was what convinced me... followed by that shot of Bobby standing outside the room listening to Lucy and Denise fight. Then I really did know.
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