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LBC General Chit-Chat (Part 32)
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BanglaRoad
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“The full George Formby - cleaning windows! ”

The Queens favourite singer apparently.
Did I hear that on LBC? Heard it somewhere this week
MartinRosen
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“The full George Formby - cleaning windows! ”

Have you finished ? Mine could do with a clean .. then there are the weeds in the garden, and some our carpets could do with a vacuuming What time can you get round?
gurney-slade
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by MartinRosen:
“Have you finished ? Mine could do with a clean .. then there are the weeds in the garden, and some our carpets could do with a vacuuming What time can you get round?”

So long as you keep your little stick of Blackpool rock out of sight!
makeba72
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by Mr_Boltar:
“Also I'd love to have Kahn on with Hogan Howe and listen to him explain the reasons for him constantly sueing the police for spurious "human rights" reasons during his formative years as a solicitor..”

You've clearly done your research. Which specific cases did you have in mind?
gurney-slade
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“The Queens favourite singer apparently.
Did I hear that on LBC? Heard it somewhere this week”

It was all over the papers. Apparently she knows the words to all his songs.
Hilary22cat
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by Lone Drinker:
“Just stick to your vow of never listening to him GS. I did it ages ago and no longer feed the troll.”

I stopped some months ago. Occasionally listen to the first few minutes of the monologue but then remember why I rarely listen after 10.15am.

Once you twig the format, it becomes quite tedious - start with a false premise that you have dreamt up (possibly as a result of your own insecurities/paranoia) then invite people to ring in to agree.

If they ring in to disagree, then humiliate them, to reinforce your own failings.

Rinse and repeat, daily.
makeba72
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by Hilary22cat:
“Once you twig the format, it becomes quite tedious - start with a false premise that you have dreamt up (possibly as a result of your own insecurities/paranoia) then invite people to ring in to agree.

If they ring in to disagree, then humiliate them, to reinforce your own failings.

Rinse and repeat, daily.”

An excellent description that could describe any number of presenters, I'd say.
snowy ghost
09-06-2016
Well i like J
It makes a change from the right wing bunch that are on the rest of the time
The_Moth
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“The Queens favourite singer apparently.
Did I hear that on LBC? Heard it somewhere this week”

I thought I heard it on Ken Bruce's "Pop Master" quiz.
Mr_Boltar
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“You've clearly done your research. Which specific cases did you have in mind?”

Are you unable to use google? Hint - there's a list of a dozen of them on wikipedia. Then maybe read the little dirty little weasels book "Challenging Racism: Using The Human Rights Act." where he has a whole chapter on taking action against the police. Still, I'm sure while he wasted police time and money he was lining his own pockets quite nicely like most "human rights" lawyers. Perhaps Cherie Blair is his role model.
makeba72
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by Mr_Boltar:
“Are you unable to use google? Hint - there's a list of a dozen of them on wikipedia. Then maybe read the little dirty little weasels book "Challenging Racism: Using The Human Rights Act." where he has a whole chapter on taking action against the police. Still, I'm sure while he wasted police time and money he was lining his own pockets quite nicely like most "human rights" lawyers. Perhaps Cherie Blair is his role model.”

I'm not sure I'd take Wikipedia as any guarantee of unbiased fact. (But having looked at it, it's just a list of example cases anyway, so isn't it a quantum leap to say that they are all pointless?)

Your initial assertion was (and remains) so strong, I assumed you must have done your research and would be able to quote any number of cases. I assumed you must have a lot of evidence to show that these cases were indeed vexatious, without validity, and a waste of time.

So far, all you've shown me is that you know how to use mildly abusive terms and that you can make generalised negative statements about human rights lawyers. What is the logical position of this argument - that you think people don't deserve legal representation when it comes to wrongful arrest, racism, being beaten up the police? I'm sure you don't believe that, but I'm struggling to see your current position as therefore having much weight to it. In a week with a story about an 11-year-old disabled child being tied up and hooded for 60 hours without access to an appropriate adult, I do wonder about what position you're really taking on someone's right to legal representation.

Now, if you want to argue about how the cost of justice in general, fair enough, but that's a very different story, isn't it?

Happy to take your reply to the LBC politics thread to keep things on-topic.
Mr_Boltar
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“I'm not sure I'd take Wikipedia as any guarantee of unbiased fact. (But having looked at it, it's just a list of example cases anyway, so isn't it a quantum leap to say that they are all pointless?)

Your initial assertion was (and remains) so strong, I assumed you must have done your research and would be able to quote any number of cases. I assumed you must have a lot of evidence to show that these cases were indeed vexatious, without validity, and a waste of time.

So far, all you've shown me is that you know how to use mildly abusive terms and that you can make generalised negative statements about human rights lawyers. What is the logical position of this argument - that you think people don't deserve legal representation when it comes to wrongful arrest, racism, being beaten up the police? I'm sure you don't believe that, but I'm struggling to see your current position as therefore having much weight to it. In a week with a story about an 11-year-old disabled child being tied up and hooded for 60 hours without access to an appropriate adult, I do wonder about what position you're really taking on someone's right to legal representation.

Now, if you want to argue about how the cost of justice in general, fair enough, but that's a very different story, isn't it?

Happy to take your reply to the LBC politics thread to keep things on-topic. ”

He represented Ali Dizaei, tells you all you need to know about him. Clearly you think the sun shines out his backside so go worship at his altar and the rest of the human rights industry parasites if it makes you happy.

The 11 year old disabled kid - you mean the violent feral kid with anger management issues who was restrained for a total of 60 hours on 4 seperate occasions, not all in one go as you're trying to imply? Too bad. I'd restrain a kid if they were trying to bite and attack me. I suppose you'd give them a teddy bear and some warm milk. End of discussion.
BanglaRoad
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by Mr_Boltar:
“He represented Ali Dizaei, tells you all you need to know about him. Clearly you think the sun shines out his backside so go worship at his altar and the rest of the human rights industry parasites if it makes you happy.

The 11 year old disabled kid - you mean the violent feral kid with anger management issues who was restrained for a total of 60 hours on 4 seperate occasions, not all in one go as you're trying to imply? Too bad. I'd restrain a kid if they were trying to bite and attack me. I suppose you'd give them a teddy bear and some warm milk. End of discussion.”

Wow. Just wow.
redvers36
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by Hilary22cat:
“I stopped some months ago. Occasionally listen to the first few minutes of the monologue but then remember why I rarely listen after 10.15am.

Once you twig the format, it becomes quite tedious - start with a false premise that you have dreamt up (possibly as a result of your own insecurities/paranoia) then invite people to ring in to agree.

If they ring in to disagree, then humiliate them, to reinforce your own failings.

Rinse and repeat, daily.”

Actually the act was exposed early today. James took a caller who disagreed with him. He tried being rude and talked over her but she remained calm and courteous. James twisted her views so she pointed them out again. As a last resort he quoted Douglas Adams to which she enquired what that had to do with it? A presumably chastened James cut her off and went to an ad break demonstrating both no manners and a lack of class.
G.F.M.
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“I'm not sure I'd take Wikipedia as any guarantee of unbiased fact. (But having looked at it, it's just a list of example cases anyway, so isn't it a quantum leap to say that they are all pointless?)

Your initial assertion was (and remains) so strong, I assumed you must have done your research and would be able to quote any number of cases. I assumed you must have a lot of evidence to show that these cases were indeed vexatious, without validity, and a waste of time.

So far, all you've shown me is that you know how to use mildly abusive terms and that you can make generalised negative statements about human rights lawyers. What is the logical position of this argument - that you think people don't deserve legal representation when it comes to wrongful arrest, racism, being beaten up the police? I'm sure you don't believe that, but I'm struggling to see your current position as therefore having much weight to it. In a week with a story about an 11-year-old disabled child being tied up and hooded for 60 hours without access to an appropriate adult, I do wonder about what position you're really taking on someone's right to legal representation.

Now, if you want to argue about how the cost of justice in general, fair enough, but that's a very different story, isn't it?

Happy to take your reply to the LBC politics thread to keep things on-topic. ”

I have to say i agree with this.
G.F.M.
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by redvers36:
“Actually the act was exposed early today. James took a caller who disagreed with him. He tried being rude and talked over her but she remained calm and courteous. James twisted her views so she pointed them out again. As a last resort he quoted Douglas Adams to which she enquired what that had to do with it? A presumably chastened James cut her off and went to an ad break demonstrating both no manners and a lack of class.”

I thoroughly enjoyed that conversation, and to be fair, the Lady would not say why she was against the extension, except "because its a deadline" despite being pushed several times. We all know he gets flustered when challenged, its all part of the fun.
makeba72
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by Mr_Boltar:
“He represented Ali Dizaei, tells you all you need to know about him. Clearly you think the sun shines out his backside so go worship at his altar and the rest of the human rights industry parasites if it makes you happy.”

I suspect I might get banned if I said what I really think about the level of intelligence of someone who would post this and believe it was somehow an answer. Your ability to jump to nonsensical conclusions is flabbergasting, Chuck.

You take one case and make a quantum leap. You then make sub-kindergarten level assumptions about what I believe.

All this to cover the fact you don't have a single answer to anything I actually posted and feeling the need to be rude about it in the process.

Wow.

Quote:
“The 11 year old disabled kid - you mean the violent feral kid with anger management issues who was restrained for a total of 60 hours on 4 seperate occasions, not all in one go as you're trying to imply? Too bad. I'd restrain a kid if they were trying to bite and attack me. I suppose you'd give them a teddy bear and some warm milk. End of discussion.”

The uninformed, foaming rantings of the totally ignorant. When did you meet this child? How much experience do you have of learning disabled people? What do you know of the laws covering how the police are supposed to deal with such people in distress? You're making a fool of yourself. But sadly, this kind of ignorance feeds the prejudice towards and ill-treatment of disabled people, as I personally know very well indeed.

But hey - you read Wikipedia, so you must know more than me...
Cayce
09-06-2016
Mr_Boltar gives his age on his profile as 95 years old!! Generational differences could be at stake here.
Cayce
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“The full George Formby - cleaning windows! ”

OT. I couldn't resist, g-s have you listened to this number? I trust you used Windolene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYyVxQgnhDo
Cayce
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by G.F.M.:
“I thoroughly enjoyed that conversation, and to be fair, the Lady would not say why she was against the extension, except "because its a deadline" despite being pushed several times. We all know he gets flustered when challenged, its all part of the fun.”

Hey, I'm sure it is, but you have to be able to survive the first 20 minutes of J O'B's self-indulgent monologue before you find the fun surely?
Peachykeen
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by MarkyTheMonkey:
“I have seen a few mentions on the web that Steve Allen was going to read the 8am news on the Chris Moyles Radio X show today.

Does anybody know if this actually happened?”

I didn't hear it but I did read this tweet from Steve Allen so I assume he did ....

'Delighted to help out my friend Chris M this morning with the news.. We are such a great team at Global. #cantbuyhappiness'
Charlie Drake
09-06-2016
In my opinion, it's a shame we are regularly subjected to the utterances of Theo Usherwood.
He doesn't seem to have much of a clue about anything much, least of all politics.
He's probably a nice chap, but is an irritating speaker to my ear, which I suppose is not entirely his fault, although a little training would work wonders.
His one attribute is that he regularly shows up.
Surely LBC radio 97.3 can do better than this?
Charlie Drake
09-06-2016
Ian Collins talking about the debate on ITV tonight.
Modern tv is great, because you can pause, discuss, and fast-forward through the adverts.
I've paid rapt attention as much as I can throughout this whole drawn-out debacle, but have really learned nothing new.
When you have two opposing forces, you end up where you started.
G.F.M.
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by Cayce:
“Hey, I'm sure it is, but you have to be able to survive the first 20 minutes of J O'B's self-indulgent monologue before you find the fun surely? ”

Agreed, the monologue does go on a tad to long. And repeats itself somewhat. But it's like anything else. You take it or leave it.
karen trace
10-06-2016
This morning Ferrari is coming across as a boorish oaf with a lack of manners when talking to callers he disagrees with - really horrible.
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