A very unusual comment from Iain's guest - a security expert.
He thinks this was "a Lone Wolf attack".
He thinks this was "a Lone Wolf attack".
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Originally Posted by Landis:
“A very unusual comment from Iain's guest - a security expert.
He thinks this was "a Lone Wolf attack".”
“A very unusual comment from Iain's guest - a security expert.
He thinks this was "a Lone Wolf attack".”
According to most reports she intervened in a street fight. Some sickos trying to make political capital out of it. Some saying the gunman shouted 'Britain First'. Others saying it was a racist attack. The guy looks pretty white in the pictures, Not so much lone wolf as random nutter.
Blimey, Iain Dale has just broken down on air.
Given the tragic events of today, it's quite understandable.
Given the tragic events of today, it's quite understandable.
Massive respect to Iain Dale for holding it together for 99% of todays broadcast time. I urge him not to feel any need to apologise for letting his emotions show.
Originally Posted by P.Ramlee:
“Blimey, Iain Dale has just broken down on air.
Given the tragic events of today, it's quite understandable.”
“Blimey, Iain Dale has just broken down on air.
Given the tragic events of today, it's quite understandable.”
Twice tonight as far as I could see.
Originally Posted by P.Ramlee:
“Blimey, Iain Dale has just broken down on air.
Given the tragic events of today, it's quite understandable.”
“Blimey, Iain Dale has just broken down on air.
Given the tragic events of today, it's quite understandable.”
Yes I heard that too, very upsetting news. Her poor family.
Some pretty irresponsible broadcasting from LBC today with regards to the tragic killing of Jo Cox.
No sooner had LBC got wind of the rumour that the alleged attacker shouted "Britain First!" than they were straight on the phone to Jayda Fransen.
This is what frustrates me about LBC - they try to create a Smoking gun when no such gun exists, simply hearsay. Not even bothering to check the facts first. Instead LBC gives the oxygen of publicity to a hideous extremist group whose sole purpose is to stoke up hatred of Islam.
Perhaps you could learn something about responsible broadcast journalism from your colleagues over at Broadcasting House. The truth appears to be a lot more simple - the assailant had no political affiliation but probably had mental health issues.
And as a former BBC journalist, Fogarty should have known better.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ery-yorkshire/
No sooner had LBC got wind of the rumour that the alleged attacker shouted "Britain First!" than they were straight on the phone to Jayda Fransen.
This is what frustrates me about LBC - they try to create a Smoking gun when no such gun exists, simply hearsay. Not even bothering to check the facts first. Instead LBC gives the oxygen of publicity to a hideous extremist group whose sole purpose is to stoke up hatred of Islam.
Perhaps you could learn something about responsible broadcast journalism from your colleagues over at Broadcasting House. The truth appears to be a lot more simple - the assailant had no political affiliation but probably had mental health issues.
And as a former BBC journalist, Fogarty should have known better.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ery-yorkshire/
Originally Posted by P.Ramlee:
“Some pretty irresponsible broadcasting from LBC today with regards to the tragic killing of Jo Cox.
No sooner had LBC got wind of the rumour that the alleged attacker shouted "Britain First!" than they were straight on the phone to Jayda Fransen.
This is what frustrates me about LBC - they try to create a Smoking gun when no such gun exists, simply hearsay. Not even bothering to check the facts first. Instead LBC gives the oxygen of publicity to a hideous extremist group whose sole purpose is to stoke up hatred of Islam.
Perhaps you could learn something about responsible broadcast journalism from your colleagues over at Broadcasting House. The truth appears to be a lot more simple - the assailant had no political affiliation but probably had mental health issues.
And as a former BBC journalist, Fogarty should have known better.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ery-yorkshire/”
“Some pretty irresponsible broadcasting from LBC today with regards to the tragic killing of Jo Cox.
No sooner had LBC got wind of the rumour that the alleged attacker shouted "Britain First!" than they were straight on the phone to Jayda Fransen.
This is what frustrates me about LBC - they try to create a Smoking gun when no such gun exists, simply hearsay. Not even bothering to check the facts first. Instead LBC gives the oxygen of publicity to a hideous extremist group whose sole purpose is to stoke up hatred of Islam.
Perhaps you could learn something about responsible broadcast journalism from your colleagues over at Broadcasting House. The truth appears to be a lot more simple - the assailant had no political affiliation but probably had mental health issues.
And as a former BBC journalist, Fogarty should have known better.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ery-yorkshire/”
A word of caution.
Brietbart is not a reliable source.
You are doing exactly what you are accusing lbc of doing. Jumping the gun.
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“A word of caution.
Brietbart is not a reliable source.
You are doing exactly what you are accusing lbc of doing. Jumping the gun.”
“A word of caution.
Brietbart is not a reliable source.
You are doing exactly what you are accusing lbc of doing. Jumping the gun.”
Perhaps so, but then I'm not a national radio broadcaster accountable to Ofcom.
In the very early reports the Telegraph stream said that "several" witnesses reported the attacker shouting "Britain first, Britain First, Britain First". That is fairly specific and does not sound like a misheard phrase.
Saying (on LBC) that journalists have reported that.....is not rumour. It is Journalism.
Knowing that this was said (as fact) will have to wait for later, but if witnesses do confirm that (to Police Officers) then clearly that is devastating. In fact it is so important that half of the UK are currently holding their breath.
Saying (on LBC) that journalists have reported that.....is not rumour. It is Journalism.
Knowing that this was said (as fact) will have to wait for later, but if witnesses do confirm that (to Police Officers) then clearly that is devastating. In fact it is so important that half of the UK are currently holding their breath.
Originally Posted by Landis:
“Massive respect to Iain Dale for holding it together for 99% of todays broadcast time. I urge him not to feel any need to apologise for letting his emotions show.”
“Massive respect to Iain Dale for holding it together for 99% of todays broadcast time. I urge him not to feel any need to apologise for letting his emotions show.”
I agree, he did extremely well in his coverage of this deeply tragic event
Originally Posted by P.Ramlee:
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Perhaps you could learn something about responsible broadcast journalism from your colleagues over at Broadcasting House. The truth appears to be a lot more simple - the assailant had no political affiliation but probably had mental health issues.
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Perhaps you could learn something about responsible broadcast journalism from your colleagues over at Broadcasting House. The truth appears to be a lot more simple - the assailant had no political affiliation but probably had mental health issues.
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It didn't stop the BBC News Channel presenter repeating the 'Britain first' story in the 9pm bulletin.
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“It didn't stop the BBC News Channel presenter repeating the 'Britain first' story in the 9pm bulletin.”
“It didn't stop the BBC News Channel presenter repeating the 'Britain first' story in the 9pm bulletin.”
Do you mean when the BBC showed the interview with the eyewitness who said he heard that said?
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Do you mean when the BBC showed the interview with the eyewitness who said he heard that said?”
“Do you mean when the BBC showed the interview with the eyewitness who said he heard that said?”
No, they didn't show that, or the witness who said he didn't hear it. Just the presenter.
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“No, they didn't show that, or the witness who said he didn't hear it. Just the presenter.”
“No, they didn't show that, or the witness who said he didn't hear it. Just the presenter.”
They showed the interview on the 10pm news on bbc1
Bear in mind that there are two sets of eyewitnesses, one lot for the attack and another lot for the arrest.
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“They showed the interview on the 10pm news on bbc1
Bear in mind that there are two sets of eyewitnesses, one lot for the attack and another lot for the arrest.”
“They showed the interview on the 10pm news on bbc1
Bear in mind that there are two sets of eyewitnesses, one lot for the attack and another lot for the arrest.”
Not sure if it was the same interview but the eyewitness on BBC Newsnight - Clarke Rothwell now claims the assailant did use the words 'Britain First'.
There will be immense pressure on the Police to disclosure more information about this man and his true motive.
Originally Posted by P.Ramlee:
“Not sure if it was the same interview but the eyewitness on BBC Newsnight - Clarke Rothwell now claims the assailant did use the words 'Britain First'.
There will be immense pressure on the Police to disclosure more information about this man and his true motive.”
“Not sure if it was the same interview but the eyewitness on BBC Newsnight - Clarke Rothwell now claims the assailant did use the words 'Britain First'.
There will be immense pressure on the Police to disclosure more information about this man and his true motive.”
That's the guy I saw on main 10pm news. Not sure why you say "now claims" because AFAIK he hasn't made a conflicting or different claim.
Two women are brutally murdered each week in Britain if she had worked in the local Library it wouldn't have got past the local news.No tears from Ian Dale for them but hey there you go the MPs lives are much more important than the average person in their eyes.
Originally Posted by Harry_Stevens:
“Two women are brutally murdered each week in Britain if she had worked in the local Library it wouldn't have got past the local news.No tears from Ian Dale for them but hey there you go the MPs lives are much more important than the average person in their eyes.”
“Two women are brutally murdered each week in Britain if she had worked in the local Library it wouldn't have got past the local news.No tears from Ian Dale for them but hey there you go the MPs lives are much more important than the average person in their eyes.”
Shameful post.
Ferarri doing his best to disprove the BF claim.
Except his best doesn't seem to include mentioning the eyewitness on the BBC.
Except his best doesn't seem to include mentioning the eyewitness on the BBC.
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Shameful post.”
“Shameful post.”
But, looking at it dispassionately, brutally true.
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Ferarri doing his best to disprove the BF claim.
Except his best doesn't seem to include mentioning the eyewitness on the BBC.”
“Ferarri doing his best to disprove the BF claim.
Except his best doesn't seem to include mentioning the eyewitness on the BBC.”
And you seem to have joined those who are determined to use her death to make a political point. As her friends have pointed out, she would be horrified if this was the case.
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Ferarri doing his best to disprove the BF claim.
Except his best doesn't seem to include mentioning the eyewitness on the BBC.”
“Ferarri doing his best to disprove the BF claim.
Except his best doesn't seem to include mentioning the eyewitness on the BBC.”
Yes.
He is reporting what has been said.
But it could appear to be a deliberate muddying of the waters somewhere in the media.
Clarke Rothwell, a bar owner whose responsible wish to improve the reputation of a local bar when he became its manager - more women and children, fewer "lads"- and whose application for longer hours had been opposed by a Conservative councillor (on the Health Committee) - claimed he heard - actually heard -the phrase used twice. That hasn't been retracted.
A cafe owner of a different background had said "apparently" - that's his word - the phrase had been used yesterday. The word "apparently" suggests he wasn't there. It is that man who has said now that the phrase was never used.
Understandably he wishes to distance himself from what was said but he never said that he was there so he couldn't know.
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“But, looking at it dispassionately, brutally true.
And you seem to have joined those who are determined to use her death to make a political point.”
“But, looking at it dispassionately, brutally true.
And you seem to have joined those who are determined to use her death to make a political point.”
Have I?
Get this. If the arrested man had been called Iran instead of Tommy, you can bet your house on the fact that Farage et al would be all over it.
Seems like the more right wing amongst us want it all hushed up. The double standards are astounding.
NF is reporting half a story here.
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Have I?
Get this. If the arrested man had been called Iran instead of Tommy, you can bet your house on the fact that Farage et al would be all over it.
Seems like the more right wing amongst us want it all hushed up. The double standards are astounding.
NF is reporting half a story here.”
“Have I?
Get this. If the arrested man had been called Iran instead of Tommy, you can bet your house on the fact that Farage et al would be all over it.
Seems like the more right wing amongst us want it all hushed up. The double standards are astounding.
NF is reporting half a story here.”
But he's not, so you're all over it instead. Double standards indeed.
Incidentally, It looks like I have just leapt in here but I have already expressed my sadness on what has happened and made several other ;points on the politics threads.
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