NA almost made me cry last night. He was insufferable.
I never thought I'd say it but he's beginning to sound like SA. 'I'm right and you're wrong and you don't know what you're talking about'.

What's Farage going on about Sir Bob Geldof. He was in Coventry Friday a 56% Leave. He was just totally professional and the audience welcomed him and sang along to his songs. Farage stop exaggerating everything . God I hope you are not going to be a LBC presenter ... Oh sounds like you are.

I listened very carefully to NA last night. Usually I tend to dip in and out, but I was interested in what he had to say.
I thought he listened politely to his callers and let them talk for quite a while before they ran out of steam, or started to become repetitive.
I have to say I agreed with him on every single point he made, except for saying that the benefits system here in the UK is more generous than elsewhere in the EU (hence attracting migrants).
I don't have personal experience of this, having never claimed benefits, but I found this assertion doubtful.
I will do a bit of Googling, time permitting...

I'm waking up fairly early these mornings since last Friday. This may be due in part to the fact that I have a new car to be picked up on Thursday and various thoughts go through my mind. Anyway, enough of that but I have been tuning into my nemesis Vallen and did so at 4am today and was appalled by his vitriolic bile that comes out of his mouth especially towards the BBC but it was interesting to see how much support he gives his 'friend' Chris Evans, recently departed from Top Gear (thank goodness).
I didn't know he even watched such manly things on TV such as Top Gear and so how does he seem to know so much about it?
Awful, awful man.

I think the negative comments on here have been not so much about what he says as how many times he repeats it, night after night. Truly Groundhog Day. I rarely listen to him these days but I hope for the sake of his regular listeners that Nick has got over his hissy fit by Friday. With any luck he'll have been diverted by Chilcot.

Interesting piece by Rafael Behr in today's Guardian about how it all went wrong for Remain.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...P=share_btn_tw

Thanks for the link, g-s. It will require a fair bit of concentration to get through all that, but it looks very informative.
I heard somewhere that Cameron supporting Remain was one aspect that helped Leave, as a proportion of the votes were in protest at government policy (not to mention many other aspects of our relationship with the EU).
As I'm sure you're aware this result, to me, was a classic case of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.
I don't expect you to agree!
p.s. You're right about Chilcot. Whatever the long-awaited and extremely expensive report says, it will undoubtedly be grist to a great number of journalistic and commentators' mills!

I think hubris on the part of the Remainers played a part, and the underestimation of the anger of the GBP at what they had come to see as forty years of being bossed by Brussels. And, of course, the bullying tactics employed by the Government.

Caught just the end of the adoption discussion with NF.
Couldn't get what the meat of the topic was, is it something that was in today's papers?
Am becoming interested in looking at adopting and am trying to find out AMAP.

Nicky Campbell has said that children shouldn't be adopted away from their ethnic origins.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1...cial_adoption/

Well, I almost switched off when he started going on about the fulsome contents of Tom Daly's 'budgie smugglers' in contrast to the boyfriend of Chloe Madeley, but I must have dozed off. When I woke up he was ranting about texters being 'mentally ill', being in a home, needing medication etc. He went on and on about it and even brought the Samaritans into it which I thought was a bit distasteful. I don't mind listening to him most days as it's chewing gum for the ears as I drift in and out of sleep but Steve seems to be increasingly incoherent and poisonous.

Thanks gs
Oh the SNP paper

Words like 'hubris', 'rhetoric', 'hyperbole' etc. are scattered like confetti these days, and don't have much relevance to where we are now and where we go from here.
A more measured approach:
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...-made-brussels
On the question of how many of our laws have come from Brussels since 1993, take your pick of 77% (Farage) to 7% (Clegg). It's undoubtedly somewhere in between, and most commentators reckon at around 13 to 15%.
The irony is that many of our laws and directives emanate from elsewhere - over and above EU rulings, so Brexit would be irrelevant to those rules anyway.
What's always concerned me more is that the GBP should be left at the mercy of Right Wing British politicians, with no system of checks and balances from the EU.

It's the job of an effective Left-wing Opposition to stop them.

When you look at what's happening in other countries, from how they're run to their financial situations, the UK really isn't such a bad place to live. Our politician's larcenous tendencies rarely go beyond a spot of personal nest-feathering; despite what the disaffected would have us believe, the NHS is still one of the miracles of civilised society; even the weather is, on the whole, kind. Despite being a cynic, I am a glass half full person!

BTW - Happy Birthday NHS - 68 today and still staggering on despite constant predictions of doom.

On that we can certainly agree!

No idea what Farage said about Bob Geldof as wasn't listening, but my opinion of Geldof has changed considerably since he swore and insulted those fisherman on the Thames boat altercation during the referendom campaign.

He along with others on that boat were offensive . I used to admire him but not any more.

To add, I've always seen Cameron as lacking substance. He puts on a performance reflecting his PR abilities, however, from listening to callers on LBC they've become disillusioned with the polished veneer of this man who also has a history of being indecisive. On that note, I even remember him changing his mind in.. the space of day once.

Ok, so the thread is lapsing into politics again here for yet another day.

Feel free to provide an alternative course.

Just chatting while we wait for somebody to turn up and comment on the programmes. Off you go....

If you wish to avoid politics (and I can't say I blame you) then best avoid LBC Radio 97.3.
This thread, like it or not, reflects the content of said station.
Interspersed, as on this thread, 'softer' subjects are to be found.
Your awaited contribution would help!

I completely agree, Charlie. As I understand it, the stats regarding all these 'laws' depends on what you count as a law, as the EU has different levels of rules and regulations, and even then most of them are apparently related to standardising the quality of goods and services across the region (so a good thing that ensures we get decent quality, safe, goods when we import). I was also interested in a programme on the telly showing that the UK did, in fact, have the ultimate say on some of those EU 'laws' anyway.

What I really, really regret, though, is that this not the kind of detail I think we ever had from LBC. When they are ultimately seeking to entertain rather than inform (because that's the nature of commercial media, who need advertising), then they avoid 'boring' us with little things like stats, details or too many facts.

I think too many people knew how the rhetoric (on both sides) made them feel, but had very little understanding of either side's actual policies or plans. See also the rise of Trump...!

I'm fast going off JOB as a presenter, but I'm still very pleased he exists and always asked people to try and look beyond their feelings into the actual facts. What always scared me is that too many people seemed to have a religious fervor about their positions, and simply were not prepared to examine their beliefs at all. I think that's dangerous, and I'm sad that LBC other media too often exploited that rather than examined it.


I don't think that's true. Not sure of the date of these figures, but just one example of how people's self-interests surely lead to affecting the whole country when making policy:

http://socialinvestigations.blogspot...nnections.html

This report is about is about the high number of MP's and Lords who have financial and vested interests in private healthcare. Hardly, then, the best people to be steering the NHS. This is just one example.

MP's who see their retirement plan as being on the board of some company are surely very likely not to rock the boat on too much regulation of such companies. So it goes well beyond personal nest-feather into affecting us all.

Add 'swallow the Kool Aid' to JoB's cliches. He seems to like it a lot.

Yes, being a bit sweary and silly on a boat completely negates all that good work he did on Live Aid......................! (just to be clear, that was irony!!!!)

Now that Nigel Farage has stepped down from the leadership of UKIP, will he still have a phone-in on LBC?

I wonder if LBC has ever offered Jeremy Corbin a phone-in slot? They seem to target high profile politicians who have traditionally differed from the mainstream.

Perhaps if Geldof, Bono and all the other virtue signallers didn't squirrel their personal fortunes away in offshore accounts, and contributed the right amount of tax to the exchequer's coffers, we might have less need for their services to charity. And his behaviour on that particular occasion was a disgrace.