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Old 26-02-2016, 11:30
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what is it with job .. for some reason he goes ott about 'pakistan' origin sex abusers but softens his stance (the manner in which he talks about these crimes) when it comes to any other sex abusers.

his stance becomes even more odd considering that ceop finds that around 70% of these grooming acts are not by those of 'asian' origin. further these (all) grooming acts account for less than 2% of total child sex abuse convictions.

job appears to find it difficult to recognise the informed view that the major factor is the night time economy rather than cultural and so pakistan. yet he finds it almost impossible to relate, be it jimmy savile, police, parliamentarians, military, church or the ordinary man, child sex abuse to be either british or a cultural crime.
You're right in that most genuine paedophiles are white men. I think the mistake that James, his callers and you are making is to define the grooming gang as paedophiles. Yes, the girls they abused were below the age of consent but they were groomed and abused because they were vulnerable young females, most of them white. These men would probably be horrified at the idea of abusing babies, toddlers, primary school children, or even young girls of their own race.
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Old 26-02-2016, 11:33
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I heard the first half hour but not the last, he certainly professed no surprise regarding Saville at that time, typical Steve to have come out with entirely different representations within one show! When he climbed off the high horse re Saville he expanded by telling us that he knew loads and loads and loads of people currently in "the business" who were horrible nasty bullies but were universally "loved" by the public to whom they presented an entirely different lovable side, also said we would be totally shocked and surprised at who he was talking about. Went on to say he couldn't or wouldn't name them. I would have thought that following the repercussions of the Saville report being published it would have been an excellent opportunity to name such people, if what he is saying is true it would not be libellous.
I'm glad to say that I didn't hear any of this ranting but I did wake momentarily and heard Allen going on about the recently departed Terry Wogan and telling us that Wogan was a very heavy drinker....."he'd start with white wine and then the red followed by spirits, ending up with brandy or port".
He thought it odd that there were no photographs of the funeral.
As he has mentioned, so many times in the past, the dead can't sue.
How cowardly can you get?
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Old 26-02-2016, 11:38
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I'm glad to say that I didn't hear any of this ranting but I did wake momentarily and heard him going on about the recently departed Terry Wogan and telling us that Wogan was a very heavy drinker.....'he'd start with white wine and then the red followed by spirits, ending up with brandy or port'. He thought it odd that there were no photographs of the funeral.
As he has mentioned, so many times in the past, , the dead can't sue.
How cowardly can you get?
I thought the Wogan comments were uncalled for. He seemed very odd today. Even more odd than usual.
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Old 26-02-2016, 12:57
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I heard the first half hour but not the last, he certainly professed no surprise regarding Saville at that time, typical Steve to have come out with entirely different representations within one show! When he climbed off the high horse re Saville he expanded by telling us that he knew loads and loads and loads of people currently in "the business" who were horrible nasty bullies but were universally "loved" by the public to whom they presented an entirely different lovable side, also said we would be totally shocked and surprised at who he was talking about. Went on to say he couldn't or wouldn't name them. I would have thought that following the repercussions of the Saville report being published it would have been an excellent opportunity to name such people, if what he is saying is true it would not be libellous.
I haven't heard today's show yet but he did this on most of yesterday's as well. A lot of anti BBC ranting. I think it must be the LBC station owner's policy.
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Old 26-02-2016, 12:59
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BBC Brian, the arch radio troll, has accused a caller of trolling him. There isn't really a great deal of difference between him and the barmy caller at times. Age and public school not mentioned yet and we are 30 minutes into the show, is this a first?
Perhaps BBC Brian's going to apply for Tony Blackburn's old job on Pick Of The Pops next. Does Brian do DJ-ing?
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Old 26-02-2016, 14:20
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I'm glad to say that I didn't hear any of this ranting but I did wake momentarily and heard Allen going on about the recently departed Terry Wogan and telling us that Wogan was a very heavy drinker....."he'd start with white wine and then the red followed by spirits, ending up with brandy or port".
He thought it odd that there were no photographs of the funeral.
As he has mentioned, so many times in the past, the dead can't sue.
How cowardly can you get?
I heard that too. It is something I did not know, or care to know. Steve Allen reminds me of the outcast in the school-yard who garners friendships by letting a class-mates know he has a secret he will share with them in return for friendship I dare say Terry's family will not be pleased to hear comments such as these have been broadcast. You were out of order Steve, big time.
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Old 26-02-2016, 15:14
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I heard that too. It is something I did not know, or care to know. Steve Allen reminds me of the outcast in the school-yard who garners friendships by letting a class-mates know he has a secret he will share with them in return for friendship I dare say Terry's family will not be pleased to hear comments such as these have been broadcast. You were out of order Steve, big time.
In fairness to Steve, when Sir Terry died there were a lot of articles and comments that stated how much he liked a drink and his legendary lunches. It's nothing new. Steve wasn't saying he was an alcoholic, just liked a drink.

As for his ranting about Tony Blackburn I'm not surprised. He really likes TB and has done a few In Conversations with him. I don't know if they are friends but Steve certainly has a lot of time/respect for him which is unusual in itself !!

(On a side note, I've noticed a lot of support for TB from lots of media types and other celebs. Normally they stay schtum with this kind of thing.)
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Old 26-02-2016, 15:16
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BBC Brian, the arch radio troll, has accused a caller of trolling him. There isn't really a great deal of difference between him and the barmy caller at times. Age and public school not mentioned yet and we are 30 minutes into the show, is this a first?
He mentioned his age again today. Why does J O'B need to tell listeners nearly everyday how old he is? A form of juvenile delinquency? He's reminiscent of a teenager boasting of being another year older when they've celebrated a birthday.
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Old 26-02-2016, 15:35
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Perhaps BBC Brian's going to apply for Tony Blackburn's old job on Pick Of The Pops next. Does Brian do DJ-ing?
Surprisingly, Brian talked about a university course available studying Hip Hop today. It was the least pompous hour I have heard from him in memory! Mrs Brian even got in on the act and tweeted him when Zulu Nation called. It was all rather Partridgesque but it was quite an enjoyable hour. Quite incredible.
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Old 26-02-2016, 15:46
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Socialist Shelagh has just informed listeners she likes Antony and the Johnsons. Have LBC presenters been told to lighten things up? Extraordinary.
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Old 26-02-2016, 16:00
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Surprisingly, Brian talked about a university course available studying Hip Hop today. It was the least pompous hour I have heard from him in memory! Mrs Brian even got in on the act and tweeted him when Zulu Nation called. It was all rather Partridgesque but it was quite an enjoyable hour. Quite incredible.
You're going soft, Mike. I didn't get where I am today by going soft.
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Old 26-02-2016, 16:02
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You're going soft, Mike. I didn't get where I am today by going soft.
I've amazed myself to be honest. Most unRackabitlike. The last time this happened was his coverage of the MP expenses scandal.
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Old 26-02-2016, 16:57
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Top stuff from Mr Dale discussing The Donald. Dale goes from strength to strength.
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Old 26-02-2016, 16:58
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Lord Howard tells @ShelaghFogarty that he’s arguing for a “trial separation” rather than divorce from EU https://t.co/aAQcmvVfFQ
And also denies having lost the plot.
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Old 26-02-2016, 17:28
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You're right in that most genuine paedophiles are white men. I think the mistake that James, his callers and you are making is to define the grooming gang as paedophiles. Yes, the girls they abused were below the age of consent but they were groomed and abused because they were vulnerable young females, most of them white. These men would probably be horrified at the idea of abusing babies, toddlers, primary school children, or even young girls of their own race.
yes i agree with you, vulnerable girls and they were attracted to the night time economy taxi/food that these men predominently inhabited. where else would they go ?

the ceop stats indicated that around 60% of victims are white, ethnic minorities over represented. this being partly due to the make up of the communities that these crimes were initially investigated.
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Old 26-02-2016, 18:58
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In fairness to Steve, when Sir Terry died there were a lot of articles and comments that stated how much he liked a drink and his legendary lunches. It's nothing new. Steve wasn't saying he was an alcoholic, just liked a drink.

As for his ranting about Tony Blackburn I'm not surprised. He really likes TB and has done a few In Conversations with him. I don't know if they are friends but Steve certainly has a lot of time/respect for him which is unusual in itself !!

(On a side note, I've noticed a lot of support for TB from lots of media types and other celebs. Normally they stay schtum with this kind of thing.)
I've no problem with Fanny feeling sorry for TB and even suggesting that he has been treated harshly. In truth there may have been an ulterior motive to the BBC taking the view that the shortcomings in the evidence that TB gave to the enquiry justified him being sacked.

However, Allen chose to imply that it had been because TB was unfairly assumed to be guilty of the assault that he had been accused of many years ago, hence his constant bleating that "he hasn't even been charged with anything". That was bad enough but to then go on a rant about the child that had made that accusation and had ultimately committed suicide; suggesting that she was at fault for looking older than her actual age, that her parents were at fault for not controlling her behaviour and that they should publish her diaries to prove that she had mental health issues was totally unforgivable.

I was also not surprised that he exploited the opportunity to lambast the BBC to the full. I don't know if it is LBC policy but they wouldn't be the only media organisation to consider their biggest competitor to be the "great satan". Unfortunately Fanny is totally unable to do so within the bounds of any pretence at taste or reason as he showed by his repeated assertions that BBC management had acted like "girls", big girls blouses" and "wear dresses". He is a complete fool.
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Old 26-02-2016, 19:11
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Has Iain Dale forgotten where he broadcasts? First hour Trump, and last hour American football.

If you call into LBC from the UK they return your call. Do they do the same if you call in from British Columbia?
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Old 26-02-2016, 19:57
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The most insipid, vacuous, bright and breezy presenter ever is spouting forth. An overgrown exuberant student is an equivalent - so, can someone send Olly Mann home purleeze on extended paternity leave?
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Old 26-02-2016, 20:41
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You're going soft, Mike. I didn't get where I am today by going soft.
Oo-er, have you gone soft? Congrats!
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Old 26-02-2016, 20:52
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Genuine question.. Is it just me that finds Olly Mann an interminable bore?
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Old 26-02-2016, 21:25
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Genuine question.. Is it just me that finds Olly Mann an interminable bore?
I think the consensus is that he is a bit wet behind the ears.
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Old 26-02-2016, 21:26
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Genuine question.. Is it just me that finds Olly Mann an interminable bore?
No, Cayce. Olly has the life experience of a 12 year old. If a goose invaded his living room, he would struggle to say "boo!".
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Old 26-02-2016, 21:59
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Genuine question.. Is it just me that finds Olly Mann an interminable bore?
I think the consensus is that he is a bit wet behind the ears.
No, Cayce. Olly has the life experience of a 12 year old.
Doesn't it make you wonder about LBC's hierarchy in not only hiring OM but, letting him continue to infiltrate the airwaves with his uniquely empty hyper-chat?
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Old 26-02-2016, 22:03
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Doesn't it make you wonder about LBC's hierarchy in not only hiring him but, letting him continue to infiltrate the airwaves with his uniquely empty hyper-chat?
I was desperately trying to remember who his female foil was when they produced a successful podcast. Can't recall now. Olly is reminiscent of a neutered Brian. Vapid and dull, although the best of the week hour is a decent listen with additional input. Give him ten years and he might be a different proposition. Possibly.
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Old 26-02-2016, 22:07
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