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LBC General Chit-Chat (Part 32)
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Styker
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by FrankBT:
“You do realise that Dale is anti-Trump himself, don't you? ”

Going by yesterdays "show" I don't think he is anti Trump rather the opposite. It seemed to really rile him that the first 2 callers were pro Clinton and I have never heard him get so irate with people for being pro someone before in that way. Either way, the man needs to get over himself.


Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“It must be wonderful to be able to make a firm judgement about something or somebody after only a few minutes exposure. This morning KH did an hour on London being closed for the big cycle ride and the second hour on 'home alone' children. I found both interesting and, at times, amusing. She attracts a wide variety of callers, all of whom she listens to with more courtesy than most of the other presenters.

As for shock jocks, I believe the term refers to presenters who set out deliberately to offend and stir up dissent. They've never flourished in this country, partly because we have fairly strict broadcasting regulations but mostly, I believe, because there's no appetite for them.”


You make it sound like her rent a gob ways don't make "headines" via twitter and the rag that she writes for. LBC used to go with her "columns" as an excuse for their shows too and not only can I be bothered to give her the time of day but she bores me rigid whenever I haerd a few minutes of her shows. I tuned in to see if Mellor was on today or not and as soon as I heard her and her having yet another problem with another group of people I just thought to myself what a bore off and I turned actually switched sides.
Landis
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“As for shock jocks, I believe the term refers to presenters who set out deliberately to offend and stir up dissent. They've never flourished in this country, partly because we have fairly strict broadcasting regulations but mostly, I believe, because there's no appetite for them.”

KH can only have a career as an LBC presenter if she does have a shock jock mentality. ( ie - saying things that she does not believe purely for effect).

If she actually believes that those who are fleeing from war zones, fleeing from ISIS, are "cockroaches" - then she has no future on LBC. It will only take a modest number of consumers to contact advertisers to cancel contracts..... to cancel orders....because those companies are supporting a repulsive life form - and she will be gone.
Rik Piana
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by Styker:
“Iain Dale on fridays 4pm-5pm slot asked callers to ring in with their views on Clinton/Trump and who they thought would win. He totally couldn't handle the first 2 callers making anti Trump comments and got very irritable with them as well as interpreting them loads and then switching to other callers while the callers were still speaking. He kept on putting those callers down to afterwards and had a couple of crawlers call him up afterwards backing him up but |'ve noticed over the years that phone in presenters can always get crawler callers to call in and agree with them, pied piper kind of effect imo.

He was incredibly rude, arrogant and I've had enough of Iain Dale to be honest. One caller the other day who was having a go in general said that he listens to hear what other callers have to say, not ID and that goes for me too. These radio presenters so need to get over themselves and in ID's case, he needs to stop making it so obvious that he can't handle Conservatives getting bashed by the callers!”

He's overrated. Not sure what the appeal of him is to be honest. He seems to be your average radio presenter and with a certain bias to boot.
iaindale
30-07-2016
Just reading through the last couple of pages has amused me greatly. Lets's deal with the facts rather some of the more lurid speculation about what happened on Friday.

I can't stand Donald Trump. If I was American I'd vote Clinton. He's a total narcissist with no idea of how to solve America's problems. He's divisive, nasty and would be a disaster as President. However, that doesn't mean I'll give carte blanche for some idiot to come on the radio and tell overt lies. The idiot in question asserted that in his convention speech, he had told his supporters to go out and perpetrate violence against ethnic minorities. Now, put yourself in my position. What would you do? Exactly you'd take on the caller, just as I did. Here'a short video of how I did it.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/donald-trumps-u...in-dale-134621

Yes, I did shut the caller off in the end, because she was talking complete and utter bollocks. Doing so does not mean I support Donald Trump. It means I don't want people lying to my listeners.

We had two other calls from people who made other stupid claims and I took them on. If you seriously think that utter loons should be given free rein to spout their conspiracy theories, fine, go and listen to another radio station.

If a caller had made such idiotic accusations against Hillary Clinton I'd have handled it in exactly the same way. It's called responsible broadcasting.

Happy Saturday
Cayce
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by Landis:
“KH can only have a career as an LBC presenter if she does have a shock jock mentality. ( ie - saying things that she does not believe purely for effect).

If she actually believes that those who are fleeing from war zones, fleeing from ISIS, are "cockroaches" - then she has no future on LBC. It will only take a modest number of consumers to contact advertisers to cancel contracts..... to cancel orders....because those companies are supporting a repulsive life form - and she will be gone. ”

Katie Hopkins is your ultimate shock jock. I don't know how many times I've heard what presenters like Cristo and Steve have said of her and hinted at. Just recently Cristo said she's a completely different person when she's away from a microphone, and that she would "hate him for letting on as much". I guess she's 'the thinking person's" version of Steve Allen, who spends hours winding people up.
makeba72
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by Styker:
“You make it sound like her rent a gob ways don't make "headines" via twitter and the rag that she writes for. LBC used to go with her "columns" as an excuse for their shows too .”

Expressing some of the vile views that KH has should have buried a career, not made one. The fact that the opposite is true says everything you need to know about her media backers.
digitalspyfan1
30-07-2016
Is that the real Iain Dale? Hard to prove on the net, I guess.
P.Ramlee
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by digitalspyfan1:
“Is that the real Iain Dale? Hard to prove on the net, I guess.”

Yes, He is the real deal and has commented on this thread previously.
Nick G
30-07-2016
Iain really is right about the content of the calls on Friday, particularly in the first half hour. In days gone by the last of the callers might have finished with 'my name is Noel Edmonds'. I hope Iain also agrees that a Saturday morning politics show needs to return in September. LBC must not abandon a field that it has to itself.
Peachykeen
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by digitalspyfan1:
“Is that the real Iain Dale? Hard to prove on the net, I guess.”

Yes it is and I love the fact that he comes on here and engages with us unlike some presenters who moan about DS on air but don't come on here and challenge what's said.
Styker
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by iaindale:
“Just reading through the last couple of pages has amused me greatly. Lets's deal with the facts rather some of the more lurid speculation about what happened on Friday.

I can't stand Donald Trump. If I was American I'd vote Clinton. He's a total narcissist with no idea of how to solve America's problems. He's divisive, nasty and would be a disaster as President. However, that doesn't mean I'll give carte blanche for some idiot to come on the radio and tell overt lies. The idiot in question asserted that in his convention speech, he had told his supporters to go out and perpetrate violence against ethnic minorities. Now, put yourself in my position. What would you do? Exactly you'd take on the caller, just as I did. Here'a short video of how I did it.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/donald-trumps-u...in-dale-134621

Yes, I did shut the caller off in the end, because she was talking complete and utter bollocks. Doing so does not mean I support Donald Trump. It means I don't want people lying to my listeners.

We had two other calls from people who made other stupid claims and I took them on. If you seriously think that utter loons should be given free rein to spout their conspiracy theories, fine, go and listen to another radio station.

If a caller had made such idiotic accusations against Hillary Clinton I'd have handled it in exactly the same way. It's called responsible broadcasting
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Happy Saturday ”


Loons? That is what you think of your callers, one of whom is a regular caller isn't he? What conspiracy theories too btw? The other started off with agreeing with you to some extent before you turned on him too.

The fact that you speak of your callers in the way you have here shows even more to me why LBC should give you your cards! There are so many other journalists who could do the same job and as long as they don't get as irritable/biased as you when it comes to conservatives being bashed (inc Tory Lite new Lab types) then I'd welcome a replacement.

p,s. You said to a caller the other day who complained of a caller from Liverpool being racist I think and if he's the caller I think he is referring to then I agree with the former caller and you said you like to hear callers with opposing views?! Yeah you've really proved that here haven't you?!
Styker
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by Nick G:
“Iain really is right about the content of the calls on Friday, particularly in the first half hour. In days gone by the last of the callers might have finished with 'my name is Noel Edmonds'. I hope Iain also agrees that a Saturday morning politics show needs to return in September. LBC must not abandon a field that it has to itself.”

What exactly do you agree with ID on and did you even watch the speeches in question?
Styker
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“Expressing some of the vile views that KH has should have buried a career, not made one. The fact that the opposite is true says everything you need to know about her media backers.”

Well said and the fact that they dropped Ken Livingstone shows their uber hypocrisy. KL said repeatedly that he was opposed to racism all his life but imo they treated him as if he was one in dropping him while they seem to like Katie Hopkins "forthright views"!

DS so need to bring back the rolling eyes icon too!
wns_195
30-07-2016
I think how some people react to the more controversial LBC presenters such as Katy Hopkins and Ken Livingstone depends on their own politics. The same could be said about reactions to Nick Ferrari and James O'Brien, who are both robust and who both can be unkind to callers.

I'm not sure why to LBC, Katy Hopkins is suitable but Ken Livingstone is not suitable. Katy Hopkins has been put on air because of her extreme views, but Ken Livingstone has been removed because of his extreme views. LBC should be consistent in how it treats presenters.

The callers in the first hour of Iain Dale's show were basically throwing around allegations which were either untrue or not verified by LBC's journalists. It was entertaining radio, but it was not informative.

When you call LBC, somebody asks you what you want to say and makes notes. If the callers said the same thing to the call handlers that they said on the radio, why did they make it on air?

I also thought presenters were provided with notes about callers.

Originally Posted by Rik Piana:
“Not sure what the appeal of him is to be honest.”

His political connections enable LBC to broadcast more interviews with people who are in the Westminster bubble.

I preferred James Whale, but I don't dislike Iain Dale.

This new presenter who I am listening to for the first time, has a thoughtful approach to discussion which seems unique on LBC.
iaindale
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by Styker:
“Loons?

p,s. You said to a caller the other day who complained of a caller from Liverpool being racist I think and if he's the caller I think he is referring to then I agree with the former caller and you said you like to hear callers with opposing views?! Yeah you've really proved that here haven't you?!”

I remember that. They were referring to a caller Paul from Liverpool who phoned into James O'Brien and I said to my caller "James dealt with him". Of course I like opposing views. It would be a very boring show with no opposing views and if everyone agreed with me. I prefer it when callers don't agree with me. But I draw the line at total falsehoods, deliberate lies and outrageous conspiracy theories. None of those make for good conversation or debate. Not quite sure why that should even be a controversial thing for a presenter to say.
Styker
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by iaindale:
“I remember that. They were referring to a caller Paul from Liverpool who phoned into James O'Brien and I said to my caller "James dealt with him". Of course I like opposing views. It would be a very boring show with no opposing views and if everyone agreed with me. I prefer it when callers don't agree with me. But I draw the line at total falsehoods, deliberate lies and outrageous conspiracy theories. None of those make for good conversation or debate. Not quite sure why that should even be a controversial thing for a presenter to say.”

You still haven't mentioned what the conspiracy theories from the 3 callers were supposed to be, the ones you also called loons too.

As for that Paul from Liverpool, I also think he is a racist. I've heard him more than enough times where imo he's more than given it away he is one.
Styker
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by wns_195:
“I think how some people react to the more controversial LBC presenters such as Katy Hopkins and Ken Livingstone depends on their own politics. The same could be said about reactions to Nick Ferrari and James O'Brien, who are both robust and who both can be unkind to callers.

I'm not sure why to LBC, Katy Hopkins is suitable but Ken Livingstone is not suitable. Katy Hopkins has been put on air because of her extreme views, but Ken Livingstone has been removed because of his extreme views. LBC should be consistent in how it treats presenters.

The callers in the first hour of Iain Dale's show were basically throwing around allegations which were either untrue or not verified by LBC's journalists. It was entertaining radio, but it was not informative.

When you call LBC, somebody asks you what you want to say and makes notes. If the callers said the same thing to the call handlers that they said on the radio, why did they make it on air?

I also thought presenters were provided with notes about callers.



His political connections enable LBC to broadcast more interviews with people who are in the Westminster bubble.

I preferred James Whale, but I don't dislike Iain Dale.

This new presenter who I am listening to for the first time, has a thoughtful approach to discussion which seems unique on LBC.”

Re the first BIB, completely agree and well said.

I don't agree with the second bib, what false allegations were all the callers in the first hour making that I missed then? Iain Dale was asking for their views on Trump/Clinton in general and who they thought would win. Those who favoured Clinton got jumped on and that is what doesn't impress me.
Cayce
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by Styker:
“Re the first BIB, completely agree and well said.

I don't agree with the second bib, what false allegations were all the callers in the first hour making that I missed then? Iain Dale was asking for their views on Trump/Clinton in general and who they thought would win. Those who favoured Clinton got jumped on and that is what doesn't impress me.”

Here's the video which Iain posted.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/donald-trumps-u...in-dale-134621

The woman caller claimed Trump had said "to go out and hit ethnic minorities".
Styker
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by Cayce:
“Here's the video which Iain posted.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/donald-trumps-u...in-dale-134621

The woman caller claimed Trump had said "to go out and hit ethnic minorities".”

ID seemed to be saying his first 3 callers were expressing conspiracy theories, just 1 "example"? I couldn't be bothered to listen to Trump's speech, I've had enough of him in general but I did see numerous news reports about it and he did seem to be saying that he would back the Police when they shoot dead "suspects" like the ones we have seen too many of recently where its obvious the Police Officers either choose to kill and abuse their role or are far too itchy trigger fingered. If that is what that caller was getting at then was she wrong?!
Styker
30-07-2016
Anyone else not a fan of the sex and relationship show? I don't think its needed but LBC do seem keen to have these kind of shows at the weekend don't they? There was a previous kind of show on both friday and saturday nights wasn't there? The time slot that Nick Abbot now has?
P.Ramlee
30-07-2016
I was rather impressed with Maajid Nawaz who was covering for Beverly Turner this evening. Quite a good presenter and spoke quite eloquently on the topics under discussion - extremism and morality.

What do others think?
MartinRosen
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by Styker:
“p,s. You said to a caller the other day”

For someone you obviously don't like, you listen to him quite a lot.
MARTYM8
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by P.Ramlee:
“I was rather impressed with Maajid Nawaz who was covering for Beverly Turner this evening. Quite a good presenter and spoke quite eloquently on the topics under discussion - extremism and morality.

What do others think?”

Well he is a measured individual with life experience who has evolved as a person over time and has run as a parliamentary candidate. Compared to Bev Turner though it doesn't take much to seem erudite and impressive!
Styker
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by MartinRosen:
“For someone you obviously don't like, you listen to him quite a lot.”

Like that caller said to him on air the other day and I'm sure the same goes for a lot of people, when I tune it, its to hear what other people have to say on the issues, not the presenter.

Iain Dale has got me so irked of late with his obvious bias towards New Labour types and the Tories and his jumping on the Corbyn fans (or he mocks them) and is now jumping on callers favouring Clinton, I may well start easing up on listening to his show.
Styker
30-07-2016
Originally Posted by P.Ramlee:
“I was rather impressed with Maajid Nawaz who was covering for Beverly Turner this evening. Quite a good presenter and spoke quite eloquently on the topics under discussion - extremism and morality.

What do others think?”

I didn't really listen to him and am not impressed with him for reasons I put in the LBC political thread.
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