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Old 11-10-2016, 11:51
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Briefly listened to Ferrari this morning and caught the programme when he was being disparaging about the BBC again. He and others, notably Vallen do this and I just wonder what it is in their DNA that makes them do this?
The BBC are very generous on their part in often mentioning this station or quoting from it or playing clips and therefore have a much more grown up attitude towards the 'competition'.
Just proves how childish some of the LBC presenters are.
I find their dislike/distrust of the BBC mystifying Has to go beyond the BBC not offering them work? Either way Nick and Steve, we get it .. you don't like 'em! [I know the yawning smiley was taken away for good reasons but sometimes just sometimes (like this time) it just fits the bill. Nick and Steve come off as childish when they do this.]
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Old 11-10-2016, 12:14
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We are into the third hour now....but the topic is pretty important. It is not just the Elephant in the room. The Elephant is eclipsing the sun. That is why we are into the third hour.

The only interruption to the discussion was the news at 12. It seems that a phone manufacturer are having a disaster and now wish they had never launched the Samsung Brexit 7.
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Old 11-10-2016, 12:22
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Oh dear.
It all went wrong for that caller when JOB sussed out who he was.
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Old 11-10-2016, 12:27
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Oh I didn't know about the flannels. How wonderful.

He bought a portable DVD player recently which didn't work but he isn't going to return it because it only cost £50 and he'd already thrown the box away. Besides, he'd already bought another one anyway.

He's interviewing Jo Malone for "In Conversation" this week so candles are bound to be back on the agenda soon.
He buys at least 20 flannels at a time ... he loves a flannel !!!

I would love to look inside his place. It must be an Aladdin's Cave of treasure ( or junk) ..... Candles, Furby's, vacuums, box sets, halogen ovens, flannels, DVD players, Tommy Bahamas shirts,Christmas lights ... not forgetting light up toilet seats and shower heads ...


I always thought he lived in a flat ( presumable a large one because of the amount of stuff he has) but when he was discussing his vacuums he did say he keeps 'one upstairs'. Must be a maisonette style.
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Old 11-10-2016, 12:31
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If it's not the announcement by May last week and the course that Brexit will take hasn't caused the plunge in the currency then what do you think has caused it?
How can you prove its Brexit? In 1980 I got $2.40 to the pound, so what caused it to go so low before the vote?. How do you know it wouldn't have gone lower anyway?
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Old 11-10-2016, 12:46
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How can you prove its Brexit? In 1980 I got $2.40 to the pound, so what caused it to go so low before the vote?. How do you know it wouldn't have gone lower anyway?
What I tend to do is listen and read what people who know a lot more about currency fluctuations have to say and their verdict is unanimous that Brexit is the reason behind the drop in value.
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Old 11-10-2016, 12:48
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How can you prove its Brexit? In 1980 I got $2.40 to the pound, so what caused it to go so low before the vote?. How do you know it wouldn't have gone lower anyway?
Whilst true and also that the pound has been overvalued, the speed of decline is worrying and will have consequences to our everyday life. It does show how "plastic" the whole World and currency trading is. People (our Gods) will look to make money out of instability / insecurity. The £ and Brexit is one of those wonderful opportunities for them to make money. Endlessly looking at the negatives and talking the Country down and therefore the £ is wonderful news for them, as it creates just the environment that they want.

Don't worry these people will make money when and if it goes back up again and the Euro for instance takes a hit. Anyone notice how all the EU issues don't seem to get a public mention. I’ll bet they are shrewd enough in Germany to put off and delay activities that will put the Euro under pressure.
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Old 11-10-2016, 13:55
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James O'Brien is being idiotic in his certainty that it is a matter of fact that Brexit was a mistake and a con.

His OTT position is based on short term outcomes and overlooks the fact that we haven't actually left yet.

The reality is that nobody knows how Brexit is going to turn out but to make out that the majority of UK voters were not entitled to vote to get back the sovereignty of their own parliament and control of their own borders is a ridiculous postion to take especially in the dogmatic and patronising way that he has.

Cheap shots to callers about 'what Euro laws they object to' and 'what have they got against immigrants' just triavalise and cheapen the issue and miss the point that protecting our own democracy and being able to decide who comes into the country is key to our economic well being in the future.

Early snapshots of what is happening to the £ in the immediate short term cannot be taken as the end result of Brexit and I'm sure he knows it.Rubbish and unprofessional journalism.
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Old 11-10-2016, 14:04
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If it's not the announcement by May last week and the course that Brexit will take hasn't caused the plunge in the currency then what do you think has caused it?
If somebody could give you the explanation would you want to listen to it?
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Old 11-10-2016, 14:07
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James O'Brien is being idiotic in his certainty that it is a matter of fact that Brexit was a mistake and a con.

His OTT position is based on short term outcomes and overlooks the fact that we haven't actually left yet.

The reality is that nobody knows how Brexit is going to turn out but to make out that the majority of UK voters were not entitled to vote to get back the sovereignty of their own parliament and control of their own borders is a ridiculous postion to take especially in the dogmatic and patronising way that he has.

Cheap shots to callers about 'what Euro laws they object to' and 'what have they got against immigrants' just triavalise and cheapen the issue and miss the point that protecting our own democracy and being able to decide who comes into the country is key to our economic well being in the future.

Early snapshots of what is happening to the £ in the immediate short term cannot be taken as the end result of Brexit and I'm sure he knows it.Rubbish and unprofessional journalism.
100% spot-on assessment. [should be able to insert here the once available applauding smiley but it's still not available for some stupid reason]
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Old 11-10-2016, 14:08
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If somebody could give you the explanation would you want to listen to it?
Why don't you offer your opinion?
Sure I would listen but bear in mind that there is no obligation to agree with it.

Is that how you see the world? Anyone who disagrees with you is not listening?
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Old 11-10-2016, 14:39
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Cheap shots to callers about 'what Euro laws they object to' .
It's not a cheap shot - it's a really good question that seems to expose about 99% of all those 'Mr Angry'-type callers, who can't even get close to answering the question.
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Old 11-10-2016, 14:59
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The official position of the European Parliament is that "a big portion of the laws adopted by the House of Commons and House of Lords actually are EU-laws that are made into national laws by the national parliaments". When we asked for its source, the Parliament cited the House of Commons Library research discussed here, as well as examples from elsewhere in Europe.

https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-w...influenced-eu/

In reality, no one knows -

or wishes to tell us.
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Old 11-10-2016, 15:05
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Why don't you offer your opinion?
Sure I would listen but bear in mind that there is no obligation to agree with it.

Is that how you see the world? Anyone who disagrees with you is not listening?
One very good source of the answer you say you are looking for is the highly qualified Scottish wealth manager Jonathan Davis. He has been on LBC as a commentator and elsewhere briefly as a presenter. His profession depends on handling money on behalf of his clients so he needs to have a thorough understanding of such economic matters.

The cause of the drop in the value of sterling is decades of mis-management of our economy by marxist leninist trotskyite socialist politicians of various parties. In fiscal terms, what we have is a horrendous budget deficit combined with a horrendous trade deficit. Under these conditions, the trend of the national currency value will always be downwards. You could get sterling back up tomorrow by putting interest rates up to 10 percent or even 5 percent, but the pressure would shift to other aspects of the economy which has been corroded by the people you suck up to.

Brexit may have precipitated the drop by removing the paper covering that was over a huge canyon, but the canyon was always there and it was caused by the sort of disgusting scumbags that you often indicate support for in your posts, the leftists, the bureaucrats, the cronies. Getting our country back involves lots more than just Brexit, but Brexit needed to be done and it has been done. Now the cure goes on, it will be a bumpy ride but the poison will be removed.
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Old 11-10-2016, 15:08
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Oh dear. JOB having hypothetical conversations with his imaginary Brexiter friends again.
I didn't make it past the first 10 minutes of his show. J O'B was already shrieking in a high-pitched voice typical propaganda statements, 'Brexiteers are racist', 'Brexiteers are xenophobes'... His soap-boxing stylee reminded me of the wretched Anjem Choudary.
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Old 11-10-2016, 15:11
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I was late tuning in and was a bit stunned to hear that James seemed to be reading out one of my posts.

"You voted for this and now you are pleading for us to stop talking about it."
The reply to that one. "Nobody voted for you to go on about it ad infintum, ad nauseam, weeks after the vote was taken."

"You voted for this and now you are pleading for us to stop talking about it."

I wonder if Hitler said that to the Austrians and Czechs after they voted for anschluss and incorporating the Sudetanland into Greater Germany? JOB seems to be an expert on all things Nazi so maybe he could tell us...
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Old 11-10-2016, 15:29
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It's not a cheap shot - it's a really good question that seems to expose about 99% of all those 'Mr Angry'-type callers, who can't even get close to answering the question.
Spot on. He set out to wind up the brexiters, and predictably they fell for it hook line and sinker. Brilliant 3 hours. PS, any idea when the NHS starts getting it's £350 million a week?
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Old 11-10-2016, 15:59
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The reply to that one. "Nobody voted for you to go on about it ad infintum, ad nauseam, weeks after the vote was taken."

"You voted for this and now you are pleading for us to stop talking about it."

I wonder if Hitler said that to the Austrians and Czechs after they voted for anschluss and incorporating the Sudetanland into Greater Germany? JOB seems to be an expert on all things Nazi so maybe he could tell us...
Yay! It's Godwin's Law.
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Old 11-10-2016, 16:01
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Having read these last few pages I am so glad that I was otherwise engaged & did not listen, today - nor yesterday, to the JO'B show

Happy Tuesday to All x
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Old 11-10-2016, 16:07
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One very good source of the answer you say you are looking for is the highly qualified Scottish wealth manager Jonathan Davis. He has been on LBC as a commentator and elsewhere briefly as a presenter. His profession depends on handling money on behalf of his clients so he needs to have a thorough understanding of such economic matters.

The cause of the drop in the value of sterling is decades of mis-management of our economy by marxist leninist trotskyite socialist politicians of various parties. In fiscal terms, what we have is a horrendous budget deficit combined with a horrendous trade deficit. Under these conditions, the trend of the national currency value will always be downwards. You could get sterling back up tomorrow by putting interest rates up to 10 percent or even 5 percent, but the pressure would shift to other aspects of the economy which has been corroded by the people you suck up to.

Brexit may have precipitated the drop by removing the paper covering that was over a huge canyon, but the canyon was always there and it was caused by the sort of disgusting scumbags that you often indicate support for in your posts, the leftists, the bureaucrats, the cronies. Getting our country back involves lots more than just Brexit, but Brexit needed to be done and it has been done. Now the cure goes on, it will be a bumpy ride but the poison will be removed.
First sentence of your second paragraph is where I stopped listening because I was laughing too much.
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Old 11-10-2016, 16:34
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James O'Brien is being idiotic in his certainty that it is a matter of fact that Brexit was a mistake and a con.

His OTT position is based on short term outcomes and overlooks the fact that we haven't actually left yet.

The reality is that nobody knows how Brexit is going to turn out but to make out that the majority of UK voters were not entitled to vote to get back the sovereignty of their own parliament and control of their own borders is a ridiculous postion to take especially in the dogmatic and patronising way that he has.

Cheap shots to callers about 'what Euro laws they object to' and 'what have they got against immigrants' just triavalise and cheapen the issue and miss the point that protecting our own democracy and being able to decide who comes into the country is key to our economic well being in the future.

Early snapshots of what is happening to the £ in the immediate short term cannot be taken as the end result of Brexit and I'm sure he knows it.Rubbish and unprofessional journalism.
This was exactly my reaction to today's infuriating rant, only you’ve expressed it far more articulately and succinctly than I could!
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Old 11-10-2016, 16:35
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Yay! It's Godwin's Law.
Indeed. Sadly i can't claim the credit as JOB got there first last week with his quoting of Mein Kampf. Maybe Godwin's Law could be extended to a certain deceased sex offender who was also invoked by him recently.

It looks like SA is our only refuge from all the brexit bolsokk, at least on LBC. Oh for the days when this forum was nearly all about having some gentle fun at the expense of SA and his "sillies". Oh for the return of John Warrington, Roger Foss and Julie Peasebad. I wonder what that Scottish woman he had on who used to bore the bejabbers out of me is doing? I'd gladly listen to her for hours now as long as she didn't mention bloody brexit again.
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Old 11-10-2016, 16:42
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Indeed. Sadly i can't claim the credit as JOB got there first last week with his quoting of Mein Kampf. Maybe Godwin's Law could be extended to a certain deceased sex offender who was also invoked by him recently.

It looks like SA is our only refuge from all the brexit bolsokk, at least on LBC. Oh for the days when this forum was nearly all about having some gentle fun at the expense of SA and his "sillies". Oh for the return of John Warrington, Roger Foss and Julie Peasebad. I wonder what that Scottish woman he had on who used to bore the bejabbers out of me is doing? I'd gladly listen to her for hours now as long as she didn't mention bloody brexit again.
There are a couple of us who do our best to introduce LBC's resident buffoon as a topic but it's rarely taken up.
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Old 11-10-2016, 16:52
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The guy who exports machinery but doesn't incur fuel and transport costs?
Strange business he is in. Maybe he exports the Tardis.
I find it fascinating that you are apparently so expert about a business after hearing one brief phone call! You even know more than the bloke running it......
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Old 11-10-2016, 16:59
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First sentence of your second paragraph is where I stopped listening because I was laughing too much.
Well, I am always happy to be able to amuse people as I educate them out of their ignorance.

Once again, I prognosticated your response correctly, didn't I?
In the arena of ideas and intellect, leftists will always lose.
When they sense that they are about to be beaten, a common tactic is to stick their fingers in their ears and go "la la la, I'm not listening".
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