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LBC General Chit-Chat (Part 32)
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Styker
08-03-2016
Originally Posted by Supersoul:
“I don't think I've ever heard a call not be challenged, when the caller has said or implied "all muslims". I've certainly heard Nick Ferrari, Ian Dale and Ian Collins pick people up on this. You said the same yersterday and I just don't think it's the norm on LBC.”

I did write that with non Muslim callers they are allowed to carry on without as many interuptions or challenges, not that they don't get challenged or get no interuptions at all though some people don't get interuptions and I'm finding they are often the ones making gross generalisations about Muslims.

I do think a lot of the interuptions in general are out of order because the presenter has much more time to say what they want to say than what callers do and I don't think the presenters give that fact much consideration at all as they interupt a fair bit in general and callers often get cut off before completing their point or being able to rebut the presenters interuptions etc.
wns_195
08-03-2016
Originally Posted by Styker:
“I did write that with non Muslim callers they are allowed to carry on without as many interuptions or challenges, not that they don't get challenged or interuptions at all.

I do think a lot of the interuptions in general are out of order because the presenter has much more time to say what they want to say than what callers do and I don't think the presenters give that fact much consideration at all as they interupt a fair bit in general and callers often get cut off before completing their point or being able to rebut the presenters interuptions etc.”

That's been the case since the 1990s at least. Shock jock phone-ins used to be built around the presenters and the purpose of the calls was to basically enable the presenters to have arguments, which they of course would win. One didn't listen to find out what callers thought, but to find out what the presenters would say to them. Scottie McClue and Jon Gaunt are examples of the sort of presenter I am describing.

On LBC, every show is named after the person who normally presents it. Most presenters aren't like the two morning presenters, so callers are able to have their say as long as they stick to the subject.
MartinRosen
08-03-2016
Originally Posted by Styker:
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I do think Ofcom are useless and in my experiences they always side with the broadcasters or dismiss the complaints as frivolous when they're not.”

I think you should look at some of Ofcom's Broadcasters Bulletins, where they have fined a station for various reasons.
Styker
08-03-2016
Originally Posted by wns_195:
“That's been the case since the 1990s at least. Shock jock phone-ins used to be built around the presenters and the purpose of the calls was to basically enable the presenters to have arguments, which they of course would win. One didn't listen to find out what callers thought, but to find out what the presenters would say to them. Scottie McClue and Jon Gaunt are examples of the sort of presenter I am describing.

On LBC, every show is named after the person who normally presents it. Most presenters aren't like the two morning presenters, so callers are able to have their say as long as they stick to the subject.”

I never saw LBC as a shock jock radio station but they are making the mistake of acting like one far too often these days. Taking on ex Talk Sport presenters who haven't changed their ways was always going to result in this happening. Maybe the answer is for people to stop listening/calling and if the rest want to accept shock jock nonsense as fact then let them. I'm sure some people in real life will point out how wrong they are from time to time if they do spout the same nonsense in their own lives.
makeba72
08-03-2016
Originally Posted by Styker:
“I never saw LBC as a shock jock radio station but they are making the mistake of acting like one far too often these days. ... Maybe the answer is for people to stop listening/calling and if the rest want to accept shock jock nonsense as fact then let them.”

Indeed, but people won't stop listening in the same way they won't stop buying the Daily Mail. People seem to like being scared and dispensing with the facts and dislike having to do any actual thinking or work with nuance,
Styker
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“Indeed, but people won't stop listening in the same way they won't stop buying the Daily Mail. People seem to like being scared and dispensing with the facts and dislike having to do any actual thinking or work with nuance,”

If I'm at home I often don't bother listening. If I'm driving and the music stations are playing music I find rubbish is when I give the phone ins a try but I might have to start taking Cds out with me as phone ins are so same old most of the time.
Styker
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by MartinRosen:
“I think you should look at some of Ofcom's Broadcasters Bulletins, where they have fined a station for various reasons.”

I've seen some links over the years and I'm amazed OFCOM uphold any complaints as they seem to be paid to protect the broadcasters in my experiences.
BanglaRoad
09-03-2016
Ferarri flogging the notion that the Queen is for Brexit big time. In full tabloid mode today. The whole point of the monarch is that they they stay out of politics but that doesn't stop Ferrari and his Sun chums from exploiting a story with no actual evidence.
Next thing he will be asking her to call in
gurney-slade
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Ferarri flogging the notion that the Queen is for Brexit big time. In full tabloid mode today. The whole point of the monarch is that they they stay out of politics but that doesn't stop Ferrari and his Sun chums from exploiting a story with no actual evidence.
Next thing he will be asking her to call in”

Surely it's logical to assume that, as our Sovereign, she'd be in favour of hanging on to our Sovereignty?

Morning all.
BanglaRoad
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“Surely it's logical to assume that, as our Sovereign, she'd be in favour of hanging on to our Sovereignty?

Morning all. ”

She will be Queen either in or out. If she wants to do politics that's fine but then give us a choice as to who our head of state is. That's democracy and better than the genetic lottery we have now.
Morning gs
BanglaRoad
09-03-2016
Let's get out of the EU because Victoria station is busy! Ferrari nodding along with this nonsense but failing to suggest that it is not the fault of the EU that there are not enough trains.
Lone Drinker
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“Indeed, but people won't stop listening in the same way they won't stop buying the Daily Mail. People seem to like being scared and dispensing with the facts and dislike having to do any actual thinking or work with nuance,”

Congratulations on the most inaccurate sweeping generalisation post in a long time.
HHGTTG
09-03-2016
Roll on March 21st and Talk Radio launch - minus Paul Ross of course. Please displace Preset 1 off my DAB radios.
gurney-slade
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“She will be Queen either in or out. If she wants to do politics that's fine but then give us a choice as to who our head of state is. That's democracy and better than the genetic lottery we have now.
Morning gs”

I doubt she worries about her own standing but that of the country she loves and to which she has devoted her life for six decades. Sadly patriotism is now regarded with the same distaste as all the other isms which are regarded as taboo.
BanglaRoad
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“I doubt she worries about her own standing but that of the country she loves and to which she has devoted her life for six decades. Sadly patriotism is now regarded with the same distaste as all the other isms which are regarded as taboo.”

BF and the EDL say they are proud patriots.
As for the Queen devoting her life to the country, too right she should. Going on foreign trips, going to boring functions and shaking lots of hands is a pretty good deal for the personal rewards.
A prediction for you. When Charlie takes over the hot seat there will be a renewed and sustained campaign for a referendum to decide who chooses our head of state. The people or the gene pool of the Windsor.
Keep LBC on high alert for months.
gurney-slade
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“A prediction for you. When Charlie takes over the hot seat there will be a renewed and sustained campaign for a referendum to decide who chooses our head of state. The people or the gene pool of the Windsor.
Keep LBC on high alert for months.”

No chance. Even the Aussies took one look at the next generation and succumbed!

In 2014, a poll found that "support for an Australian republic has slumped to its lowest level in more than three decades"; namely, on the eve of the visit to Australia by the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, and Prince George of Cambridge, 42% of those polled agreed with the statement that "Australia should become a republic", whereas 51% opposed.
Supersoul
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“Indeed, but people won't stop listening in the same way they won't stop buying the Daily Mail. People seem to like being scared and dispensing with the facts and dislike having to do any actual thinking or work with nuance,”

Would you apply the same logic to those that read the Guardian and listen to James O'Brien?
Cymon H
09-03-2016
[quote=BanglaRoad;81769143]Let's get out of the EU because Victoria station is busy! Ferrari nodding along with this nonsense but failing to suggest that it is not the fault of the EU that there are not enough trains.[/QUO
There are trains every 3 minutes ! It not about there being not enough trains , it's about volume of people now at the station at peak time .
BanglaRoad
09-03-2016
[quote=Cymon H;81769446]
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Let's get out of the EU because Victoria station is busy! Ferrari nodding along with this nonsense but failing to suggest that it is not the fault of the EU that there are not enough trains.[/QUO
There are trains every 3 minutes ! It not about there being not enough trains , it's about volume of people now at the station at peak time .”

Getting out of the EU won't reduce the numbers at Victoria. AFAIK nobody is calling for anyone to be kicked out of the country post Brexit. Busy station is a sign of a busy economy which is a GOOD THING?
Cymon H
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“Indeed, but people won't stop listening in the same way they won't stop buying the Daily Mail. People seem to like being scared and dispensing with the facts and dislike having to do any actual thinking or work with nuance,”

In laymen terms this post reads if you don't agree with me your a moron
gurney-slade
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“Indeed, but people won't stop listening in the same way they won't stop buying the Daily Mail. People seem to like being scared and dispensing with the facts and dislike having to do any actual thinking or work with nuance,”

Originally Posted by Supersoul:
“Would you apply the same logic to those that read the Guardian and listen to James O'Brien?”

J O'B's entire programme so far has been a scare story about the NHS.
BanglaRoad
09-03-2016
JOB continuing to do excellent work regarding the shameful treatment of the doctors in England. Good to hear that the % of people opposing the doctors is falling.
Cymon H
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“She will be Queen either in or out. If she wants to do politics that's fine but then give us a choice as to who our head of state is. That's democracy and better than the genetic lottery we have now.
Morning gs”

I'm taking a wild guess here , but I would think if it was a vote for the Queen to be head of state or any leftie muppet they want to put up against her she would walk it !
Prince Charles is a different case & I'm still not sure he will be King . I'm in the George Galloway camp ( not often I say that ) And think after the Queen dies maybe it should be the end of the monarchy
BanglaRoad
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by Cymon H:
“I'm taking a wild guess here , but I would think if it was a vote for the Queen to be head of state or any leftie muppet they want to put up against her she would walk it !
Prince Charles is a different case & I'm still not sure he will be King . I'm in the George Galloway camp ( not often I say that ) And think after the Queen dies maybe it should be the end of the monarchy”

Why will Charles not be King? Isnt the whole point of the monarchy that it is a hereditary system? No doubt there will be calls from some for Charles to stand aside and William gets the gig. This would reduce the position of head of state into a sort of X Factor contest for the super privelleged.
Lone Drinker
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by Cymon H:
“In laymen terms this post reads if you don't agree with me your a moron”

It's a perfect example of the left somehow believing themselves intellectually superior to the right. Shameful really. Disagree by all means but don't patronise.
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