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I am a relatively new listener to LBC,and do enjoy getting cross with the presenters and lots of the callers.
With the exception of Nick A and James O ,it still sounds like the Daily Mail on radio to me. I think James is spot on today about the DM It will be interesting to know what their reponse will be. |
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The Moth failed to mention that 'Prince William plays water polo.The game were you wear a hat that looks like a condom' ....
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James O'Brien totally smashed the Daily Mail today & he was absolutely correct in every way.
It will be interesting to know what their reponse will be. |
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I found James O'Brien's admissions today very revealing and very much reinforce long-held beliefs on this thread addressing the subject of his 'hypocrisy'.
It would almost seem as if the giant behemoth of the so-called MSM is slowly waking up to the monster they have created over the years, accelerated and exacerbated by Social Media. As I see it, here are some of the potential pitfalls and dangers of journalism: 1. A journalist operates under a repressive regime, so can only write what they're allowed/instructed to write. 2. A journalist operates under a system of Capitalism, where the journalist has e.g. 'a wife and two kids to support' (this was very much O'Brien's claim) and therefore will agree to write from an agenda. This would be illustrated by O'Brien's 'greasy pole' analogy. 'I'm writing for the Daily Express, but I'm offered the chance of writing for the Daily Mail. I don't agree with their style/slant but hey - I'm ambitious'. 3. A journalist can have personal integrity, and reports news as facts rather than editorialised opinion, but those facts are selective, and are only selected to reinforce a certain point of view/agenda. The latter occurs on this thread a lot, even though the contributors are not journalists. Ian Collins was foaming at the mouth about the Lego campaign a couple of weeks ago I could almost feel his head spinning |
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Oh no
Andrew Castle next |
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No soma, I don't harbour soapboxey political causes, I'd rather stick needles in my eyes!! Oh, I'm a keen animal welfare supporter, any good? I doubt it somehow.
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James O'Brien totally smashed the Daily Mail today & he was absolutely correct in every way.
It will be interesting to know what their reponse will be. lbc is the daily mail in many respects. so whats the difference of JoB being on the expresses greasy pole looking at the daily mail , and being on the lbc greasy pole eyeing the bbc .. |
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I suspect as we speak the Mail is looking for skeletons in the James O'Brien cupboard. Failing that it will go after the BBC for giving him a presenting slot on Newsweek.
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Why would the Mail,daily circulation 1.5 million, be bothered about a show that has an average of 85,000 listeners a day.
He's an irrelevance. |
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Why would the Mail,daily circulation 1.5 million, be bothered about a show that has an average of 85,000 listeners a day.
He's an irrelevance. |
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I've just tuned in to hear the unbelievably tedious presenting style of Andrew Castle, who really is so lightweight, suitable for some showbiz froth on a Saturday morning about tennis, which he is knowledgable on.....totally unsuitable for this slot IMHO.
He was interviewing David Davis and a guy called James McGrory and gave McGrory far too much credence, but then Castle is a remoaner. Take a look here and watch Andrew Neil, a proper journalist, make McGrath look like a rabbit caught in the proverbial headlights. This is how it should be done Mr Castle!! https://youtu.be/Z4Jb-fmFfiU |
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Why would the Mail,daily circulation 1.5 million, be bothered about a show that has an average of 85,000 listeners a day.
They have no more hope of defending this position than several regulars on this thread who have already abandoned the possibility. |
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1. A journalist operates under a repressive regime, so can only write what they're allowed/instructed to write. 2. A journalist operates under a system of Capitalism, where the journalist has e.g. 'a wife and two kids to support' (this was very much O'Brien's claim) and therefore will agree to write from an agenda. This would be illustrated by O'Brien's 'greasy pole' analogy. 'I'm writing for the Daily Express, but I'm offered the chance of writing for the Daily Mail. I don't agree with their style/slant but hey - I'm ambitious'. 3. A journalist can have personal integrity, and reports news as facts rather than editorialised opinion, but those facts are selective, and are only selected to reinforce a certain point of view/agenda. The latter occurs on this thread a lot, even though the contributors are not journalists. The 'left' have a fair share of comments on this thread. |
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Sure, the same thing could be said about journalists that work for the Daily Mirror / The Guardian (dare I say, Morning Star).
The 'left' have a fair share of comments on this thread. |
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Thanks, Martin, but my comments did not address issues of Left or Right, just journalistic bias, selectivity (and reasons for) in general.
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A post about LBC in the thread about LBC
The Daily Mail certainly played into James O'Brien's hands by relegating the news about Tommy Mair to page 30. I was agreeing with what James O'Brien said until he accused the Daily Mail of inciting Tommy Mair with its headlines even though all the claims about his radicalisation seem to blame far-right websites and publications. Newspapers can make people angry about specific groups of people but if somebody killed a Conservative MPbecause of the stories they read about the government's welfare policy in the Guardian, I don't think James O'Brien woujld blame the Guardian. Quote:
was listening to ian collins last night and thought maybe ian collins should be on a prevent watchlist ... because interestingly ian collins stated that ISIS has a legitimate grievance and is why they are called terrorists.
this as he was arguing against calling thomas mair a far right terrorist radicalised by the lies of ukip and britain first. |
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Okay, you may not have used the words 'Left or Right' but that is what it comes down to, bias to the left or right.
' … until a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.' Name that song!
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If Mr O'Briens beef was the relegation of Ms Cox's murder to inside the paper then he might like to know that the sentencing of Mair was the third topic on Daily Politics today - after the free mug quiz.
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JOB mentioned today that he believed he was the intended target of a recent article in the Guardian. Having only recently joined DS I am not sure if this has been highlighted before, but if not:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...-liberal-shock |
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JOB mentioned today that he believed he was the intended target of a recent article in the Guardian. Having only recently joined DS I am not sure if this has been highlighted before, but if not:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...-liberal-shock |
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JOB outdid himself this morning. A 20 minute rant about the conviction of Jo Cox's murderer being put on page 30 of the Mail instead of its front page. He's also implying that stories ran by the Mail are partly to blame for Cox's murder. If he's good at one thing, it's laying the bait.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Jo-Cox-MP.html |
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Interpretation, dear boy!
' … until a man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest.' Name that song! ![]() I know you didn't ask me but I just love that song ..
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The Boxer by Simon and Garfunkle.
I know you didn't ask me but I just love that song .. ![]()
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You win today's prize (whatever it is )!!
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' … until a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.' Name that song! ![]() I don't know (and probably don't want to know) what Honey G sounds like
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