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Old 24-11-2016, 22:07
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Why should any newspaper in a free country have to 'defend' its content or editorial decision ?
There are people who take any opportunity to attack the Daily Mail and who stigmatise anybody or any publication that is critical of people from certain demographics such as immigrants, but I don't think James O'Brien was wrong to question the editorial decision of the Daily Mail today and I for one was curious to know why the story was on page 30 when James O'Brien mentioned it.

Some people may still feel that it should be front page news in spite of the financial news but to create all this furore because it wasn't is way over the top.
James O'Brien's point is it wasn't even near the front, it was on the 30th page.
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Old 24-11-2016, 22:37
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Looks like the Daily Mail have managed to blame immigrants for the killing of Jo Cox.
Hope JOB does some more on this paper and the poison it spreads. Don't read the comments without preparing yourself for some real hate.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-help-him.html
Thanks for the link. I hadn't bothered to read up on the story, which is why I've kept out of the discussion but Mail-online has given it plenty of coverage. I must have missed the bit where the paper blames immigrants for the killing. It seems, due to his early life, Mair had a grudge against them and feared he would lose his house to them, which the paper has reported. He might not have been judged insane but he was certainly disturbed and obsessive.
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Old 24-11-2016, 22:48
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Thanks for the link. I hadn't bothered to read up on the story, which is why I've kept out of the discussion but Mail-online has given it plenty of coverage. I must have missed the bit where the paper blames immigrants for the killing. It seems, due to his early life, Mair had a grudge against them and feared he would lose his house to them, which the paper has reported. He might not have been judged insane but he was certainly disturbed and obsessive.
The paper reported if you can call it reporting that Jo Cox didn't help Mair stay in his house when he asked her.
Now why on earth should any MP help a single man stay in a three bedroom house when it was needed for a family?
The not so subtle inference from the Mail is that Jo Cox favoured immigrants over Mair and that's why she didn't help him.
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Old 24-11-2016, 23:01
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The paper reported if you can call it reporting that Jo Cox didn't help Mair stay in his house when he asked her.
Now why on earth should any MP help a single man stay in a three bedroom house when it was needed for a family?
The not so subtle inference from the Mail is that Jo Cox favoured immigrants over Mair and that's why she didn't help him.
The paper isn't offering that as an opinion. It's reporting what is believed to be the reason Mair felt he'd been let down by his MP.

I'm no apologist for the Mail but I don't see their coverage as other than straightforward reporting. I haven't read the comments but I presume they come from readers who have put their own interpretation on Mair's actions and motivations.
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Old 24-11-2016, 23:04
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The 'far right ' only have a few thousand similar atrocities before they are in the same league as the religion of peace.
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Old 24-11-2016, 23:10
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The paper isn't offering that as an opinion. It;s reporting what is believed to be the reason Mair felt he'd been let down by his MP.

I'm no apologist for the Mail but I don't see their coverage as other than straightforward reporting. I haven't read the comments but I presume they come from readers who have pit their own interpretation on Mair's actions and motivations.
It's. not straightforward reporting.
If it was they would report when Jo Cox didn't help him and if by "help" they mean that he should stay living where he was.
It is speculation but the headline especially heavily hints that Jo Cox had somehow treated him badly.
It is horrible journalism.
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Old 24-11-2016, 23:25
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It's. not straightforward reporting.
If it was they would report when Jo Cox didn't help him and if by "help" they mean that he should stay living where he was.
It is speculation but the headline especially heavily hints that Jo Cox had somehow treated him badly.
It is horrible journalism.
You're doing what you're accusing the paper of doing and drawing your own interpretation.

Perhaps you'll be happier when there's censorship.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-Muslims.html

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Old 24-11-2016, 23:37
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You're doing what you're accusing the paper of doing and drawing your own interpretation.
There is a difference.
I am making my conclusion on the story the Mail published.
I can point to lines in their story that led me to my interpretation of what they wrote.
They cannot or have not done this.
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Old 24-11-2016, 23:55
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But you don't listen to JOB. Unless you've been fibbing..
You suggested I should listen, have you forgotten? I seldom last for even the whole monologue as I find it dull but I have been trying it.
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Old 25-11-2016, 00:40
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Page 30.
There were lots of stories beside the budget given prominence.
Do you think if Mair had shouted Allah akbar instead of Britain First when he was commuting murder the Mail would have the story on page 30?
Do you think in that circumstance the Guardian world have had it on page 1?

If you don't like the Mail don't read it - you are just boosting their advertising revenue. I don't listen to JOB because I don't find it a pleasing experience.
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Old 25-11-2016, 01:22
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It's how the fascist left have operated since time immemorial. The State taking control of opposition newspapers and either closing them down or relieving them of editorial freedom. Seems Mr O Brian was starting the journey today.
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Old 25-11-2016, 07:21
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It's how the fascist left have operated since time immemorial. The State taking control of opposition newspapers and either closing them down or relieving them of editorial freedom. Seems Mr O Brian was starting the journey today.
The currently fashionable label for this is Liberal Fascism. Roughly, it's those who seek to control us by telling us what's 'good' for us. Don't bother to think for yourself because the state knows best. It's not a new thing; Orwell warned of it in the 1930s. Brexit must have them waking at 3am in an icy sweat.

Morning all.
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Old 25-11-2016, 07:33
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The trailers for this week's In Conversation actually sound quite good - Marcus Wareing and Monty Don.

We had several 'oldies' from Steve this morning, including Parkinson's encounter with Emu and Fiona Bruce interviewing the Prince Philip.
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Old 25-11-2016, 08:47
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[quote=gurney-slade;84683215]The currently fashionable label for this is Liberal Fascism. Roughly, it's those who seek to control us by telling us what's 'good' for us. Don't bother to think for yourself because the state knows best. It's not a new thing; Orwell warned of it in the 1930s. Brexit must have them waking at 3am in an icy sweat.

Morning
Ah looks like the Mail apologists are out in force.
That's a good thing for its good to know where people's moral compasses are ste and if they have one at all.
Morning all
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Old 25-11-2016, 08:50
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Morning all
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Old 25-11-2016, 08:59
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I'm no apologist for the Mail but I don't see their coverage as other than straightforward reporting. I haven't read the comments but I presume they come from readers who have put their own interpretation on Mair's actions and motivations.
Morning
Ah looks like the Mail apologists are out in force.
That's a good thing for its good to know where people's moral compasses are ste and if they have one at all.
Morning all
Confirming my theory that you either:
A] Don't read posts properly
B] Don't understand what you're reading
C] Choose to ignore what you've read
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Old 25-11-2016, 09:02
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Ferarri and his caller wrongly saying that the "oh what a tangled Web we weave" was a William Shakespeare quote.
Maybe all those nasty immigrants are eroding English culture after all.
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Old 25-11-2016, 09:40
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[quote=BanglaRoad;84683541]
The currently fashionable label for this is Liberal Fascism. Roughly, it's those who seek to control us by telling us what's 'good' for us. Don't bother to think for yourself because the state knows best. It's not a new thing; Orwell warned of it in the 1930s. Brexit must have them waking at 3am in an icy sweat.

Morning
Ah looks like the Mail apologists are out in force.

That's a good thing for its good to know where people's moral compasses are ste and if they have one at all.
Morning all
Or defending press freedom.
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Old 25-11-2016, 09:53
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Confirming my theory that you either:
A] Don't read posts properly
B] Don't understand what you're reading
C] Choose to ignore what you've read
Oh I read your claim.
Then I read your post about liberal fascism
Just because you say something doesn't make it true.
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Old 25-11-2016, 09:56
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[quote=Lone Drinker;84683840]

Or defending press freedom.
Looks more like a defense of horrible in undo.
What we have here is a story the Mail has published being criticised Why you think that is an attack on freedom of the press needs further explanation
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Old 25-11-2016, 09:57
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Oh I read your claim.
Then I read your post about liberal fascism
Just because you say something doesn't make it true.
So you don't believe anything you read or is it just anything you choose not to believe? How do you decide which it is?
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Old 25-11-2016, 10:06
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I'm giving J O'B a chance this morning. I think he could get himself tied up in knots with this one!
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Old 25-11-2016, 10:12
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I'm giving J O'B a chance this morning. I think he could get himself tied up in knots with this one!
He's already drawn a false equivalence between the results of a yes/no referendum and a parliamentary election. Yes, if the Tories win, Labour voters still get represented by Labour MPs. But they don't get to overturn the result of the election.
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Old 25-11-2016, 10:12
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Hes doing "Remoaners" again? with Blair & Major as his allies!
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Old 25-11-2016, 10:15
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I'm giving J O'B a chance this morning. I think he could get himself tied up in knots with this one!
I tried to give James O'Brien a go also but he seemed to be shouting somewhat incoherently into the microphone so I have switched to another station.
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