That's a very ambitious question JOB is asking.
Good luck with that one.
Good luck with that one.
LBC General Chit-Chat (Part 32)
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Originally Posted by Landis:
“Nick Ferrari was censured by the Broadcasting Standards Commission in 2003. Because this is such a serious and knowledgable corner of the forum
I did not refer to Broadcasting Standards Commission/Ofcom. If that was naughty - I apologise.
Ofcom is/was a unification of three Regulators....including the Broadcasting Standards Commission.
According to the Guardian, a listener complained that he encouraged listeners who made racist comments. The complaint was upheld by the watchdog.
Yellow card seems like a reasonable analogy, if we are to believe that further (upheld) complaints would have consequences.”
“Nick Ferrari was censured by the Broadcasting Standards Commission in 2003. Because this is such a serious and knowledgable corner of the forum
I did not refer to Broadcasting Standards Commission/Ofcom. If that was naughty - I apologise. Ofcom is/was a unification of three Regulators....including the Broadcasting Standards Commission.
According to the Guardian, a listener complained that he encouraged listeners who made racist comments. The complaint was upheld by the watchdog.
Yellow card seems like a reasonable analogy, if we are to believe that further (upheld) complaints would have consequences.”
On a Yellow Card since 2003?! As that is longer than many people serve in jail for murder you are going to have to back that up with some evidence otherwise you will look foolish.
Here we go again, JOB knocking brexit yet again, of course it cant be set out exactly what's going to happen as its never happened before.
Originally Posted by roddydogs:
“Here we go again, JOB knocking brexit yet again, of course it cant be set out exactly what's going to happen as its never happened before.”
“Here we go again, JOB knocking brexit yet again, of course it cant be set out exactly what's going to happen as its never happened before.”
I've had to switch off again; this time out of sheer boredom. It's a pointless discussion about a non-topic.
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“I've had to switch off again; this time out of sheer boredom. It's a pointless discussion about a non-topic.”
“I've had to switch off again; this time out of sheer boredom. It's a pointless discussion about a non-topic.”
I fear that what you consider a non topic will be dominating the political and the LBC agenda for the foreseeable future.
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Have you considered that Farage is in a different position to JOB?
Farage has to appear to be taking all views on board because he's a politician. JOB can be a lot more honest about it.
BTW Samuel.”
“Have you considered that Farage is in a different position to JOB?
Farage has to appear to be taking all views on board because he's a politician. JOB can be a lot more honest about it.
BTW Samuel.”
Possibly so Bang but now he's officially not a party leader we shall see how he conducts himself in future.
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“I've had to switch off again; this time out of sheer boredom. It's a pointless discussion about a non-topic.”
“I've had to switch off again; this time out of sheer boredom. It's a pointless discussion about a non-topic.”
Likewise
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“I fear that what you consider a non topic will be dominating the political and the LBC agenda for the foreseeable future.”
“I fear that what you consider a non topic will be dominating the political and the LBC agenda for the foreseeable future.”
No, not a non- topic - but only interesting when there are some new facts to discuss....there aren't !!
Same old, same old !!......Methinks, it is lazy broadcasting.
I consider myself well & truly placed in James' 'box of trolls.'
Happy Tuesday to gurney, Bangla & All x
Originally Posted by makeba72:
“
I remain amazed that people who criticise JOB don't lay into those two in the same way, but then as they are on different sides of a political fence, maybe I shouldn't be so amazed...
For me, the claims that Ferrari is funny, etc doesn't work for me. I just think he's utterly vile..”
“
I remain amazed that people who criticise JOB don't lay into those two in the same way, but then as they are on different sides of a political fence, maybe I shouldn't be so amazed...
For me, the claims that Ferrari is funny, etc doesn't work for me. I just think he's utterly vile..”
Personally, I see a world of difference between Ian Collins and Nick Ferrari. So the idea that it is just politics is incorrect. I probably do agree with a lot of what Ian Collins says, but I do not like his show. He is brusque with callers and has a "know it all" persona that is unpleasant to listen to. Although, I liked his show when he was on talksport, but that was a more easygoing listen. So it's not the views and it's not the presenter, but the "style" that they adopt, that is the problem.
Originally Posted by Billy244:
“Possibly so Bang but now he's officially not a party leader we shall see how he conducts himself in future.”
“Possibly so Bang but now he's officially not a party leader we shall see how he conducts himself in future.”
Heh, who knows how long Eddie Hitler will last in the job.
Might be a lot less Farage on LBC as he continues to suck up to his new BFF. Lots more loot to be earned in the US.
Originally Posted by Chief_Wiggum:
“Whenever O'Brien comes under any criticism, or may have committed a broadcasting offence, Landis trots out this completely untrue, utterly ridiculous comment that Nick Ferrari is supposedly "on a yellow card". That's not the way Ofcom works. People get censured and warned. If they commit several repeat offences in a very short space of time, the station can be fined.”
“Whenever O'Brien comes under any criticism, or may have committed a broadcasting offence, Landis trots out this completely untrue, utterly ridiculous comment that Nick Ferrari is supposedly "on a yellow card". That's not the way Ofcom works. People get censured and warned. If they commit several repeat offences in a very short space of time, the station can be fined.”
This seems like an over reaction to the discussion that started last night.
A Yellow Card does not indicate that a Red Card will follow. It indicates that a Yellow Card has been used.
It is an analogy used all the time by........Nick Ferrari.......which makes your objection amusing, and possibly ironic. It is used by Ferrari to indicate that the caller should take a little bit more care with the content of the call. If the caller follows that advice......there is no Red Card.
"Yellow card may refer to, by analogy, a serious warning in other areas." (Wiki)
Do we agree that the BSC/Ofcom are serious when they Censure?
Here is why a warning issued 13 years ago is relevant to the comment made yesterday by Billy, that JOB is "sailing very close to the wind" and will "go too far very soon".
Which is the post I responded to....... Yes?
JOB started his his show 13 years ago. In January 2003.
So the period we are looking at.......when comparing JOB and Ferrari, in terms of "going too far"....is since 2003.
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“I've had to switch off again; this time out of sheer boredom. It's a pointless discussion about a non-topic.”
“I've had to switch off again; this time out of sheer boredom. It's a pointless discussion about a non-topic.”
Are we 'punching ourselves in the face' again?
Not sure when LBC will catch up with the ongoing brexit saga but it's apparently not all about triggering A50.
There is another article further down the list. 127 to be exact and this could complicate the jigsaw even further.
Be warned......
There is another article further down the list. 127 to be exact and this could complicate the jigsaw even further.
Be warned......
Originally Posted by Supersoul:
“Personally, I see a world of difference between Ian Collins and Nick Ferrari. So the idea that it is just politics is incorrect. I probably do agree with a lot of what Ian Collins says, but I do not like his show. He is brusque with callers and has a "know it all" persona that is unpleasant to listen to. Although, I liked his show when he was on talksport, but that was a more easygoing listen. So it's not the views and it's not the presenter, but the "style" that they adopt, that is the problem.”
“Personally, I see a world of difference between Ian Collins and Nick Ferrari. So the idea that it is just politics is incorrect. I probably do agree with a lot of what Ian Collins says, but I do not like his show. He is brusque with callers and has a "know it all" persona that is unpleasant to listen to. Although, I liked his show when he was on talksport, but that was a more easygoing listen. So it's not the views and it's not the presenter, but the "style" that they adopt, that is the problem.”
It is a long-standing debate on here, going back years, about whether we accept (even enjoy) behaviours from one presenter that we don't accept from another, based on whether we agree with them on the issue at hand. I, like some others on here, have freely admitted to giving more rope when I share the opinion being expressed.
To say that politics doesn't come into it may be entirely true for you (although I doubt it, as unconscious bias affects us all, really), but the evidence of this thread alone tells me that in general, it is probably true. The massively OTT anti-JOB posts on this thread, which has at times turned into borderline spamming IMO, is an indication of that for me as a general trend, albeit it with individual exceptions.
For me, IC, NF and JOB are all at times (most of the time?) guilty of being deeply unpleasant, rude, arrogant, etc etc etc to callers, and yet it's only the one of those who comes in for the treatment on here, and often with specific stated regard to his personal views and politics.
[quote=BanglaRoad;84731201]Not sure when LBC will catch up with the ongoing brexit saga but it's apparently not all about triggering A50.
There is another article further down the list. 127 to be exact and this could complicate the jigsaw even further.
Be warned......[/QUOTE
I'm sure you'll keep us up to date with all the negativity. Meanwhile, I'd rather take notice of the less gloomy predictions.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...holes-reality/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...-worries-fade/
There is another article further down the list. 127 to be exact and this could complicate the jigsaw even further.
Be warned......
[/QUOTEI'm sure you'll keep us up to date with all the negativity. Meanwhile, I'd rather take notice of the less gloomy predictions.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...holes-reality/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...-worries-fade/
Originally Posted by Chief_Wiggum:
“Ian Collins last night was mocking people who "only vote for one party, the same party they've always voted for and who their parents voted for".
I wonder if Ian Collins has ever voted anything but Conservative?”
“Ian Collins last night was mocking people who "only vote for one party, the same party they've always voted for and who their parents voted for".
I wonder if Ian Collins has ever voted anything but Conservative?”
Isn't he a UKIPPER though?
Just checked- he has Vote UKIP on his Facebook.
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Heh, who knows how long Eddie Hitler will last in the job.
Might be a lot less Farage on LBC as he continues to suck up to his new BFF. Lots more loot to be earned in the US.”
“Heh, who knows how long Eddie Hitler will last in the job.
Might be a lot less Farage on LBC as he continues to suck up to his new BFF. Lots more loot to be earned in the US.”
"Eddie Hitler"
[find that funny being an Edmondson & Mayall fan]Should the Labour Party delay, hinder, disrupt and eventually assist turning around the referendum result in the next couple of years Mr Nuttall [or Eddie as you call him] along with his UKIP party will pulverise Labour to a pulp at the 2020 general election when voters would take retribution at the ballot boxes by voting UKIP.
Back on topic I seriously wanted to listen in to a bit of O'Brien this morning but something inside me was stopping me from doing so, every time I put my hand near the radio dial something was telling me not to do it so I didn't.
Prediction for topic on Nick Ferrari tomorrow
New fivers containing meat product.
Excellent chance for some veggie bashing!
New fivers containing meat product.
Excellent chance for some veggie bashing!
Originally Posted by chinchin:
“Isn't he a UKIPPER though?
Just checked- he has Vote UKIP on his Facebook.”
“Isn't he a UKIPPER though?
Just checked- he has Vote UKIP on his Facebook.
”
If you listen to his podcasts he comes across as vehemently anti UKIP.
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Heh, who knows how long Eddie Hitler will last in the job.”
“Heh, who knows how long Eddie Hitler will last in the job.”
>>>http://bit.ly/2gEQrVk<<<
Originally Posted by Billy244:
“"Eddie Hitler" [find that funny being an Edmondson & Mayall fan]
Should the Labour Party delay, hinder, disrupt and eventually assist turning around the referendum result in the next couple of years Mr Nuttall [or Eddie as you call him] along with his UKIP party will pulverise Labour to a pulp at the 2020 general election when voters would take retribution at the ballot boxes by voting UKIP.
Back on topic I seriously wanted to listen in to a bit of O'Brien this morning but something inside me was stopping me from doing so, every time I put my hand near the radio dial something was telling me not to do it so I didn't.”
“"Eddie Hitler"
[find that funny being an Edmondson & Mayall fan]Should the Labour Party delay, hinder, disrupt and eventually assist turning around the referendum result in the next couple of years Mr Nuttall [or Eddie as you call him] along with his UKIP party will pulverise Labour to a pulp at the 2020 general election when voters would take retribution at the ballot boxes by voting UKIP.
Back on topic I seriously wanted to listen in to a bit of O'Brien this morning but something inside me was stopping me from doing so, every time I put my hand near the radio dial something was telling me not to do it so I didn't.
”
But Corbyn and Mcdonell are all for A50 going ahead and have no plan to hindering it.
If you had listened to JOB you would have heard this for yourself
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“But Corbyn and Mcdonell are all for A50 going ahead and have no plan to hindering it.
If you had listened to JOB you would have heard this for yourself”
“But Corbyn and Mcdonell are all for A50 going ahead and have no plan to hindering it.
If you had listened to JOB you would have heard this for yourself”
I beg to differ but I think Corby and his motley crew will only agree to A50 being handed in if they agree with the plan on the paper, now whether they will even ever see the plan on the paper well that's another story.
Originally Posted by Supersoul:
“Personally, I see a world of difference between Ian Collins and Nick Ferrari. So the idea that it is just politics is incorrect. I probably do agree with a lot of what Ian Collins says, but I do not like his show. He is brusque with callers and has a "know it all" persona that is unpleasant to listen to. Although, I liked his show when he was on talksport, but that was a more easygoing listen. So it's not the views and it's not the presenter, but the "style" that they adopt, that is the problem.”
“Personally, I see a world of difference between Ian Collins and Nick Ferrari. So the idea that it is just politics is incorrect. I probably do agree with a lot of what Ian Collins says, but I do not like his show. He is brusque with callers and has a "know it all" persona that is unpleasant to listen to. Although, I liked his show when he was on talksport, but that was a more easygoing listen. So it's not the views and it's not the presenter, but the "style" that they adopt, that is the problem.”
Must be something in the water at Global Towers; Duncan Barkes was much the same, becoming more and more irritatingly brusque and "robust" while on LBC, but rather more tolerable to listen to on BBC London.
Originally Posted by Seb.Melmoth:
“Must be something in the water at Global Towers; Duncan Barkes was much the same, becoming more and more irritatingly brusque and "robust" while on LBC, but rather more tolerable to listen to on BBC London.”
“Must be something in the water at Global Towers; Duncan Barkes was much the same, becoming more and more irritatingly brusque and "robust" while on LBC, but rather more tolerable to listen to on BBC London.”
I suspect that Global tolerate the rude style as it gets the publicity. The BBC, on the other hand, do not need the hassle (as Iain Lee found out).
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