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Old 16-12-2016, 22:32
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Because of our enforced absence, I didn't get a chance to comment on this.

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Old 16-12-2016, 22:34
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The mods email you if you're banned, to let you know the length of your sentence.
Have they ever e-mailed you ? I've had 2 myself !
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Old 16-12-2016, 22:36
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Have they ever e-mailed you ? I've had 2 myself !
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Old 16-12-2016, 22:37
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Phoebe is just the latest in a string of JOB haters.

The previous versions lacked the intellectual capacity to challenge any of the Liberal views expounded by JOB.....they just knew that they felt rage when they were "not listening" every weekday.
And so....the dumbed down attacks on JOB (and sometimes the O'Brien family) started.Lots of posts with no relationship whatsoever to this thread or to the output of LBC.

But it is always fun waiting for the next one.
Mmm. Your post is incorrect on a number of levels (so normal service has resumed to some extent).

1) - Could you give examples of people that hate JOB? Not just people who dislike his views or his style, but have expressed hatred for him as a person.

2) - How do you measure an ability to have the "intellectual capacity to challenge any of the liberal view expounded by JOB"? I suspect that many people have the intellectual capacity, but do not have the advantage of prepping for the debate. They also do not have access to the dump button, nor do they get to have the last word on air.

3) - How do you know whether the people were listening or not? Bear in mind that hearing that he will be talking about Brexit, is not the same as listening to hear him talk about Brexit.
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Old 16-12-2016, 22:41
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10 pm Friday.it must be the Donald Trump show BORING !
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Old 16-12-2016, 22:47
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Hate is completely the wrong adjective Landis, I don't 'Hate' anyone......
I know it suits you to label those who don't worship at the font of JOB as 'Haters', but that description simply highlights your prejudices.

I dislike O'Briens relentless diatribes, his bullying of certain callers, his baiting, his inability to see two sides of the coin, the fact that he keeps telling me he is 44, that he lives in Chiswick. I dislike his permanent 'I'm right and you're wrong stance', his dismissal of Brexit, his rudeness to 'Farridge'..........Why?

Because he could be so much better, he is clearly intelligent......but he isn't smart,
he can be charming.....but also downright rude, he comes across as 'tabloid radio' when he could be 'broadsheet', he is closed minded and utterly opinionated.......when he could be open and accepting.
He shuts down debate.....when he should be encouraging it.
That is why I don't especially rate your hero, if it offends you, which it certainly seems to......maybe Internet forums aren't the place to hangout !!

In a nutshell, JOB is like most Liberals that I have encountered.
He claims to want to give a hearing to other views.......but then is shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.
You may have fallen into the same trap?
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Old 16-12-2016, 23:25
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Evening all by the way

I hadnt read anything about the update and thought I had been banned
You were not alone snowy. I too was wondering what was going on with D/S?
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Old 16-12-2016, 23:25
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Mmm. Your post is incorrect on a number of levels (so normal service has resumed to some extent).

1) - Could you give examples of people that hate JOB? Not just people who dislike his views or his style, but have expressed hatred for him as a person.

2) - How do you measure an ability to have the "intellectual capacity to challenge any of the liberal view expounded by JOB"? I suspect that many people have the intellectual capacity, but do not have the advantage of prepping for the debate. They also do not have access to the dump button, nor do they get to have the last word on air.

3) - How do you know whether the people were listening or not? Bear in mind that hearing that he will be talking about Brexit, is not the same as listening to hear him talk about Brexit.
1. No. We are unable to discuss forum members, so imagine for a moment that I am discussing 2 fictional characters in a film about Cyberspace/Social Media. Example 1 does not hate a radio presenter. He just gives an uncanny portrayal of the latter. By Monitoring the output and then ranting about something said 2 years earlier. Example 2 does not hate the sister-in-law of a presenter. He/she just acts like they do.....including attacks based on her personal hygene. The portrayal of relentless hatred is not Oscar winning but it is not bad.

2. Still with the fictional characters........Positions taken on a forum can be unhurried and may involve preparation. If the contributions are mind numbing and make no attempt to challenge political positions taken by a radio presenter....even after prompting.....I may form an impression about the JOB hater/admirer. Despite the clear implication of your words, it is impossible for me to say that the dislike results from a traumatic and unforgettable chat with an LBC presenter. Telling me that one of us is really angry and not noticing that the angry person is not me, and that the anger is so great that it may lead to the creation of a Special forum.....might be another small clue.

3. I am estimating the percentage of people not listening who are actually "not listening" to 15 minutes per hour. Hence the JOB audience of 1 Million (understimated by 20% who are "not listening").

You said that something is wrong on so many levels. Are you in a queue to leave a Multi-Storey Car Park?
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Old 16-12-2016, 23:49
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Ah yawn ... oh we are back !!!

Right a question I wanted to ask before we were rudely interupted ... what has happened to Simon Conway, Joanne Webb and Charlotte Wright ? Certainly Simon and Joanne disappeared together (nudge, nudge!) a couple of weeks ago, mid-week. Joanne returned this morning.

I can't remember when I last heard Charlotte.
Update Just had a tweet from Simon that he has been on holiday and will be back on Monday.
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Old 16-12-2016, 23:52
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1. No. We are unable to discuss forum members, so imagine for a moment that I am discussing 2 fictional characters in a film about Cyberspace/Social Media. Example 1 does not hate a radio presenter. He just gives an uncanny portrayal of the latter. By Monitoring the output and then ranting about something said 2 years earlier. Example 2 does not hate the sister-in-law of a presenter. He/she just acts like they do.....including attacks based on her personal hygene. The portrayal of relentless hatred is not Oscar winning but it is not bad.

2. Still with the fictional characters........Positions taken on a forum can be unhurried and may involve preparation. If the contributions are mind numbing and make no attempt to challenge political postions taken by a radio presenter....even after prompting.....I may form an impression about the JOB hater/admirer. Despite the clear implication of your words, it is impossible for me to say that the dislike results from a traumatic and unforgettable chat with an LBC presenter. Telling me that one of us is really angry and not noticing that the angry person is not me, and that the anger is so great that it may lead to the creation of a Special forum.....might be another small clue.

3. I am estimating the percentage of people not listening who are actually "not listening" to 15 minutes per hour. Hence the JOB audience of 1 Million (understimated by 20% who are "not listening").

You said that something is wrong on so many levels. Are you in a queue to leave a Multi-Storey Car Park?
1. Well those fictional characters seemed to dislike what JOB did. I'm not sure that they actually hated him.

2. You may form an opinion about fictional characters, but that they lack the intellectual capacity cannot be proven; after all, they are fictional.

3. The figures are your estimate presumably based on the Rajars. The one thing we can be sure of with those, is that by the end of the show, very few are still listening.

Incidentally, the many levels joke was better on Big Bang Theory.
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Old 17-12-2016, 01:28
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One thing that I found interesting today when listening to James O'Brien, is the way he and an American bloke on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean were generalising about the British working-class, saying things like that they were voting against their interests, as if because they are all working-class they are all the same and all have the same interests, which are the interests more middle-class people like James O'Brien think they should have. "You are working-class so you should think what I think working-class people should think".

When callers or the right-wing media generalise about Muslims, James O'Brien is keen to criticise them for generalising.
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Old 17-12-2016, 02:31
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One thing that I found interesting today when listening to James O'Brien, is the way he and an American bloke on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean were generalising about the British working-class, saying things like that they were voting against their interests, as if because they are all working-class they are all the same and all have the same interests, which are the interests more middle-class people like James O'Brien think they should have. "You are working-class so you should think what I think working-class people should think".

When callers or the right-wing media generalise about Muslims, James O'Brien is keen to criticise them for generalising.
He had the nerve yesterday to criticise a caller for being condescending.
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Old 17-12-2016, 05:10
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10 pm Friday.it must be the Donald Trump show BORING !
I try to have a listen now and again, Nick Abbot used to be a fun show on the late spot maybe 5 or 6 years ago, with some great "sandwich short of a picnic" or "had a few too many" callers on various topics.
I rather do miss the lack of "changing the record" or maybe needle got stuck.
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Old 17-12-2016, 07:01
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Good In Conversation with the Pointless boys, Richard and Xander. Some interesting insights into the making of the quiz and the differences between the shoestring budgets for game shows at the BBC and the large amounts spent by commercial TV.

My favourite Steve utterance of the week - 'Chestnuts are so naff.'

Morning all.
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Old 17-12-2016, 09:11
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Hmm, noticed this on my freeview machine.

Ken Livingstone & David Mellor
Sat, Dec 24, 10:00 AM to 12:00 PM
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Old 17-12-2016, 09:23
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I can't help but think Andrew Castle is desperately trying to be antagonistic and argumentative with callers/guests, in the hope it may make him more of a credible journalist. I'm afraid I don't buy it, he bores me to tears and is so uninspiring.
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Old 17-12-2016, 09:25
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Morning all
Heard a bit of AC this morning
Am now out of earshot as on a train
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Old 17-12-2016, 09:27
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The LBC schedule says that "The Morning News with Lisa Aziz" is making a return! It is on the schedule for Wednesday 21st December.
They're probably tinkering with schedule and are using last year's as a template. Bet it changes. She's not on the presenter page.
Hmm, noticed this on my freeview machine.

Ken Livingstone & David Mellor
Sat, Dec 24, 10:00 AM to 12:00 PM
I doubt it.
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Old 17-12-2016, 09:36
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Hmm, noticed this on my freeview machine.

Ken Livingstone & David Mellor
Sat, Dec 24, 10:00 AM to 12:00 PM
I could see it happening as a Christmas one-off, I still don't understand why they ditched it, I get it the trouble Ken got himself into but couldn't they have just given him a few months off and then got back to normal?.
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Old 17-12-2016, 09:39
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I could see it happening as a Christmas one-off, I still don't understand why they ditched it, I get it the trouble Ken got himself into but couldn't they have just given him a few months off and then got back to normal?.
LBC haven't given a toss about Xmas for several years now.

Their only nod towards it is Steve Allen in the morning, but even that show is not as festive as it once was, without his guests.

In the past, they would put up the Xmas season schedule early, often with some guest presenters. Now, the can't even get it right the week beforehand...
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Old 17-12-2016, 09:44
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LBC haven't given a toss about Xmas for several years now.

Their only nod towards it is Steve Allen in the morning, but even that show is not as festive as it once was, without his guests.

In the past, they would put up the Xmas season schedule early, often with some guest presenters. Now, the can't even get it right the week beforehand...
I'll bow to your better knowledge of the station Makeba as we had to stop listening to LBC up here in God's own county of Yorkshire after some twerp shut down our transmitters and we couldn't get the signal for years.

What's up with the miserable s0d$ at LBC then not celebrating Christmas frightened they might offend someone are they?.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:09
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I'll bow to your better knowledge of the station Makeba as we had to stop listening to LBC up here in God's own county of Yorkshire after some twerp shut down our transmitters and we couldn't get the signal for years.

What's up with the miserable s0d$ at LBC then not celebrating Christmas frightened they might offend someone are they?.
I get the impression they would shut down over Christmas if they could.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:17
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I get the impression they would shut down over Christmas if they could.
That's a bit unfair. They're one of the few stations available nationwide to provide mostly live broadcasting over Christmas. There was a time, before Global took over, that Bank Holidays relied on a lot of repeats - The Best Of, Cream, Review of the Year; how many times did they run the carol concert, how many repeats of In Conversations?
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:19
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I get the impression they would shut down over Christmas if they could.
I understand what you mean.

In the past, Xmas topics became part of the December phone-ins (shopping, cooking etc etc). They had the regular carol service. Xmas Day itself was very festive with Steve Allen and Bill Buckley types taking calls and helping people out who needed something when the shops were shut, or tips on how to save an undercooked turkey. It actually felt like Xmas and in the build up to it.

Nowadays, you wouldn't know it was Xmas until the day itself. Apart from Steve Allen in the morning, the topics in recent years have still been serious (it all started for me when James Max did a phone-in on tax one Xmas Day!). I suppose they see it as part of their total rejection of any old-style LBC and that it doesn't suit their image. But what a huge shame.

I can only hope talkRADIO will enjoy the day and celebrate it properly.
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:38
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I dislike O'Briens relentless diatribes, his bullying of certain callers, his baiting, his inability to see two sides of the coin, the fact that he keeps telling me he is 44, that he lives in Chiswick. I dislike his permanent 'I'm right and you're wrong stance', his dismissal of Brexit, his rudeness to 'Farridge'..........Why?

Because he could be so much better, he is clearly intelligent......but he isn't smart,
he can be charming.....but also downright rude, he comes across as 'tabloid radio' when he could be 'broadsheet', he is closed minded and utterly opinionated.......when he could be open and accepting.
He shuts down debate.....when he should be encouraging it.
That is why I don't especially rate your hero, if it offends you, which it certainly seems to......maybe Internet forums aren't the place to hangout !!

In a nutshell, JOB is like most Liberals that I have encountered.
He claims to want to give a hearing to other views.......but then is shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.
You may have fallen into the same trap?
Great post - which nicely sums up the "Liberal Fascist" syndrome. Try Mat Stadlen in the weekend night slot - another one who is so hopelessly politically correct that he shouts people down, or talks over them, before they've had a chance to say anything. He can't stand to hear an alternative viewpoint. But he's worse than JOB because in between he's insufferably bland.
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