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Old 17-12-2016, 10:56
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Give me a man in a dark navy Italian suit, crisp white shirt with a cut away collar, double cuffs, nice cuff links, highly polished black shoes (lace ups of course) and a beautiful Italian silk tie tied in a Windsor knot........sigh! 😀
Ohhh Phoebe! Me too, me too.
Where have they all gone?
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Old 17-12-2016, 10:56
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That's a bit unfair. They're one of the few stations available nationwide to provide mostly live broadcasting over Christmas. There was a time, before Global took over, that Bank Holidays relied on a lot of repeats - The Best Of, Cream, Review of the Year; how many times did they run the carol concert, how many repeats of In Conversations?
You may be right. I am probably comparing them to the BBC nationals and Talksport too much. You would think however, that they would have some info. about who/what is on over Christmas.
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Old 17-12-2016, 11:06
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It wasn't a claim. 'Twas a caller who said exactly that....All Brexiters were either old or thick.

Nick A, my erstwhile favourite agreed that Brexiters were either old or thick. He said this, after the Katie advert, at the very beginning of his show

I switched him off - but tuned in during his last hour, to find he was still talking down Trump and having 'animated' discussions with callers who disagreed....

Dear me, he & JO'B are the only LBC presenters who are taking Brexit/Trump personally.

As per the previously posted link by gurney......I find that I cannot now take the JL Xmas advert seriously. All I can see is the face of Trump on the dog & that of Hillary on the child of the house .......Hilarious

Happy pre- Xmas weekend to All x
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Old 17-12-2016, 11:11
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I understand what you mean.

In the past, Xmas topics became part of the December phone-ins (shopping, cooking etc etc). They had the regular carol service. Xmas Day itself was very festive with Steve Allen and Bill Buckley types taking calls and helping people out who needed something when the shops were shut, or tips on how to save an undercooked turkey. It actually felt like Xmas and in the build up to it.

Nowadays, you wouldn't know it was Xmas until the day itself. Apart from Steve Allen in the morning, the topics in recent years have still been serious (it all started for me when James Max did a phone-in on tax one Xmas Day!). I suppose they see it as part of their total rejection of any old-style LBC and that it doesn't suit their image. But what a huge shame.

I can only hope talkRADIO will enjoy the day and celebrate it properly.
Yes, not sure what talkRadio will have on. I suspect there will be a few "best ofs". But the style of talkRadio lends itself to being more festive (for want of a better word). Even political minds like ours need a break every now and then.
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Old 17-12-2016, 11:19
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You may be right. I am probably comparing them to the BBC nationals and Talksport too much. You would think however, that they would have some info. about who/what is on over Christmas.
They've always been slovenly about updating the schedule. Katie's in for J O'B, although she hasn't said which days. Probably the week between Christmas and New Year.
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Old 17-12-2016, 11:54
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Great post - which nicely sums up the "Liberal Fascist" syndrome. Try Mat Stadlen in the weekend night slot - another one who is so hopelessly politically correct that he shouts people down, or talks over them, before they've had a chance to say anything. He can't stand to hear an alternative viewpoint. But he's worse than JOB because in between he's insufferably bland.
Correct. Matt Stadlen is not great. At first, I thought it was just tentative 'new boy nerves' but when I listened more, it became apparent that he is extremely PC and not really interested in the opinions of his listeners (although that does seem to be the raison d'être of all LBC presenters, to be fair). He does talk over people and is of a similar mould to Shelagh Fogarty. They hear an alternative viewpoint, put their fingers in their ears and go "la la la".

Never thought I'd say it, but I sometimes wish Cristo was back.
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:15
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LBC has become the audible version of the Daily Mail. And on a seperate issue, why can't the presenters learn to pronounce each other's names properly?
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:39
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RIP Nick Abbot. I tuned in last night for the first time in ages and wish I hadn't.

Rude, belligerent and grumpy. Not at all engaging Friday night chat.

What a shame. Such a talented broadcaster whose had all the individual personality squeezed out of him. Now he's just another LBC drone.
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:46
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RIP Nick Abbot. I tuned in last night for the first time in ages and wish I hadn't.

Rude, belligerent and grumpy. Not at all engaging Friday night chat.

What a shame. Such a talented broadcaster whose had all the individual personality squeezed out of him. Now he's just another LBC drone.
Even I've given up on him and I've been his biggest supporter.

I can only assume that he gets the calls and texts etc so assumes that is what people want to hear.

I will actually be looking forward to the A-Z just to hear him talk about something else !!
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:46
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1. No. We are unable to discuss forum members, so imagine for a moment that I am discussing 2 fictional characters in a film about Cyberspace/Social Media. Example 1 does not hate a radio presenter. He just gives an uncanny portrayal of the latter. By Monitoring the output and then ranting about something said 2 years earlier. Example 2 does not hate the sister-in-law of a presenter. He/she just acts like they do.....including attacks based on her personal hygene. The portrayal of relentless hatred is not Oscar winning but it is not bad.

2. Still with the fictional characters........Positions taken on a forum can be unhurried and may involve preparation. If the contributions are mind numbing and make no attempt to challenge political positions taken by a radio presenter....even after prompting.....I may form an impression about the JOB hater/admirer. Despite the clear implication of your words, it is impossible for me to say that the dislike results from a traumatic and unforgettable chat with an LBC presenter. Telling me that one of us is really angry and not noticing that the angry person is not me, and that the anger is so great that it may lead to the creation of a Special forum.....might be another small clue.

3. I am estimating the percentage of people not listening who are actually "not listening" to 15 minutes per hour. Hence the JOB audience of 1 Million (understimated by 20% who are "not listening").

You said that something is wrong on so many levels. Are you in a queue to leave a Multi-Storey Car Park?
The 2 days break from D/S do not seem to have agreed with you Landis. Too much viewing of Newsnight episodes with James O'Brien? You could have seen them all and repeated them.
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:50
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RIP Nick Abbot. I tuned in last night for the first time in ages and wish I hadn't.

Rude, belligerent and grumpy. Not at all engaging Friday night chat.

What a shame. Such a talented broadcaster whose had all the individual personality squeezed out of him. Now he's just another LBC drone.
I think he goes through phases. When I first started listening I think he was going through a bad phase and so I had a bad impression of him. A few months later I tried him again and thought ok I can see what other people see in him now.

And talking about LBC drones, you know how some callers have been alluding to presenters being told to toe the LBC political line? And the presenters being adamant they are free to express whatever views they want as long as they are legal? Well I believe the presenters, BUT, I think ethos and typical practice rubs off. For example, the phrase "is it not?" as in "It's cold, is it not?" Now in normal parlance, all my life, the vast majority of people say "Isn't it?". When LBC started up, it was the first time I had started to hear phrases "is it not" or "do you not" daily rather than just on the odd occasion. Now listen to all the presenters, they all use "is it not" instead of "isn't it" while all my day to day aquaintances still say "isn't it". I am sure they were not instructed by LBC to do that.
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:52
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Great post - which nicely sums up the "Liberal Fascist" syndrome. Try Mat Stadlen in the weekend night slot - another one who is so hopelessly politically correct that he shouts people down, or talks over them, before they've had a chance to say anything. He can't stand to hear an alternative viewpoint. But he's worse than JOB because in between he's insufferably bland.
One thing you can say about JOB is that he isn't bland!! The last time I listened to JOB's full show I was doing a long drive and purposely put him on because I knew he would wind me up and keep me alert !!

As it happens it was the morning after a Hilary/Donald debate and JOB was literally having a breakdown so it worked a treat

Mat Stadlen is tedious beyond words. Friday/Saturday nights have gone from being my favourites to a complete turn off what with Nick A being in a rut since June 23rd and Cristo going.
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:53
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LBC has become the audible version of the Daily Mail.
That's interesting. I don't agree at all. Unless you are talking about a drive for "numbers"?

After reading the very interesting comments above - about Matt Stadlen - (a presenter that I have hardly heard) I am starting to think that the owners of LBC are serious about political balance.

In fact I now realise why my eyebrows momentarily twitched a couple of years ago when Shelagh Fogerty took over the 1pm slot.
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:56
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That's interesting. I don't agree at all. Unless you are talking about a drive for "numbers"?

After reading the very interesting comments above - about Matt Stadlen - (a presenter that I have hardly heard) I am starting to think that the owners of LBC are serious about political balance.

In fact I now realise why my eyebrows momentarily twitched a couple of years ago when Shelagh Fogerty took over the 1pm slot.
It's not political balance with Matt Stadlen that's the issue. It's just that he is dreary and as wet as can be. He needs a rocket up the proverbial ...
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Old 17-12-2016, 13:03
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It's not political balance with Matt Stadlen that's the issue. It's just that he is dreary and as wet as can be. He needs a rocket up the proverbial ...
Either a rocket up the proverbial or a one way ticket back to the BBC.
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Old 17-12-2016, 13:06
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That's interesting. I don't agree at all. Unless you are talking about a drive for "numbers"?
I think so. Not their actual political position but they way they treat their topics so as to maximise emotional response. To get the callers going I guess. It seems to me that it sacrifices thoughtful discussion in favour of something to argue about polaristically, I have a feeling that may be partly behind the impression that the presenters have an particular group mindset, as they probably feel they need to introduce each topic from the point of view that will gain the maximum indignation from their potential callers.

Whereas a newspaper is one-way communication and will sell more copies by reflecting their typical reader's views, phone in radio probably needs to do the opposite.

However I would actually prefer to hear knowledgeable people discussing than incenced people arguing.
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Old 17-12-2016, 13:36
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I think he goes through phases. When I first started listening I think he was going through a bad phase and so I had a bad impression of him. A few months later I tried him again and thought ok I can see what other people see in him now.

And talking about LBC drones, you know how some callers have been alluding to presenters being told to toe the LBC political line? And the presenters being adamant they are free to express whatever views they want as long as they are legal? Well I believe the presenters, BUT, I think ethos and typical practice rubs off. For example, the phrase "is it not?" as in "It's cold, is it not?" Now in normal parlance, all my life, the vast majority of people say "Isn't it?". When LBC started up, it was the first time I had started to hear phrases "is it not" or "do you not" daily rather than just on the odd occasion. Now listen to all the presenters, they all use "is it not" instead of "isn't it" while all my day to day aquaintances still say "isn't it". I am sure they were not instructed by LBC to do that.

Yes, I'm glad it's not just me. I'd also noticed ïs it not".
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Old 17-12-2016, 13:40
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Phoebe is just the latest in a string of JOB haters.

The previous versions lacked the intellectual capacity to challenge any of the Liberal views expounded by JOB.....they just knew that they felt rage when they were "not listening" every weekday.
And so....the dumbed down attacks on JOB (and sometimes the O'Brien family) started.Lots of posts with no relationship whatsoever to this thread or to the output of LBC.

But it is always fun waiting for the next one.
It must be for you like waiting expectantly if not anxiously at a bus stop. They the (O'B haters) are like buses always turning up in two's and three's. However, if they didn't you'd be fairly alone with nothing much to look forward to.
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Old 17-12-2016, 13:50
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Great post - which nicely sums up the "Liberal Fascist" syndrome. Try Mat Stadlen in the weekend night slot - another one who is so hopelessly politically correct that he shouts people down, or talks over them, before they've had a chance to say anything. He can't stand to hear an alternative viewpoint. But he's worse than JOB because in between he's insufferably bland.
Nick Abott is quite similar these days too must be something in the water at lbc .
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Old 17-12-2016, 13:56
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Nick Abott is quite similar these days too must be something in the water at lbc .
It does feel that way. People falling into line with a developing LBC culture and how they percieve the wind blowing to keep their contracts. It could just be the water though.
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Old 17-12-2016, 14:02
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Yeah I am not getting any feeling of deliberate pressure to keep the presenters in the hive, I just think it's automatic associational phenomenon, which is a large part of what happens to MPs after they've been in parliament for a few years. To avoid it, LBC needs to change out its presenters more often, and watch for when its the time to do it, as some people associate more quickly than others. They can start by getting a presenter who says "Isn't it" just to prove their intentions
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Old 17-12-2016, 14:42
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It must be for you like waiting expectantly if not anxiously at a bus stop. They the (O'B haters) are like buses always turning up in two's and three's. However, if they didn't you'd be fairly alone with nothing much to look forward to.
I say you are wrong.
I say that the thread is split on this issue.

The last time a serious JOB Detractor appeared there were lots of posters saying "Oh leave him alone....it is harmless" and there were lots of other posters saying "Oh for goodness sake.....could you actually attack JOB for something that he said this year?"

Somebody in the Politics forum asked me why I was such a staunch supporter of Tony Blair.
My answer was....I am not. Deconstructing the posts of someone who follows 5 different enquiries into the Iraq War vote.....and doesn't understand the conclusions of the enquiry in each and every case, is just a natural thing to do.
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Old 17-12-2016, 15:41
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I say you are wrong.
I say that the thread is split on this issue.

The last time a serious JOB Detractor appeared there were lots of posters saying "Oh leave him alone....it is harmless" and there were lots of other posters saying "Oh for goodness sake.....could you actually attack JOB for something that he said this year?"

Somebody in the Politics forum asked me why I was such a staunch supporter of Tony Blair.
My answer was....I am not. Deconstructing the posts of someone who follows 5 different enquiries into the Iraq War vote.....and doesn't understand the conclusions of the enquiry in each and every case, is just a natural thing to do.

Maybe some of those JOB detractors may make a comeback with the DS amnesty for banned users ...
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Old 17-12-2016, 15:53
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Maybe some of those JOB detractors may make a comeback with the DS amnesty for banned users ...
God forbid! The mods got so fed up with complaints about one particular detractor that they gave him his own thread and he still managed to get himself banned and the thread closed down.
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Old 17-12-2016, 16:26
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Maybe some of those JOB detractors may make a comeback with the DS amnesty for banned users ...
Several of the banned users had reincarnations then vanished again. I can't think the mods will allow those ones back on appeal?

BurlyBeaR may have gone OTT at times, but always a livewire on the forum he could be very entertaining. Sadly missed.
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