Once again, please desist from using terms such as 'snowflakes', which is an American import laden with racial connotations and deliberately reappropriated with that legacy in mind in the United States.

You are free to use terms of abuse on public forums such as this one, however I am also free to point out that this term feels exceptionally offensive.

I was looking at Katies twitter feed today ... don't judge me .... and she repeated the fact she was booked in at 10 and then it was changed.

Someone asked 'oh, did someone squeeme and squeeme and spit out their dummy because his 10am weekly slot is sacred for fluffy news story's' and she she replied 'ooo I couldn't possibly say x x Imagine if listener numbers went up ... that would be terrible'

If James has said something then he is too far up his own backside for words and Global have made a big mistake catering for his whims.

And you know damn well that GS does not use it in that context. She is referring to Generation Snowflake.

Stop trying to cause trouble,

I have listened to Steve Allen this past few days when he has been on at a civilised time and still find him amusing.It must be so difficult to just talk away like he does,although he took a few calls. I'm sure he used at one time take calls when he did the 10 to 1 slot,it was a few years ago now am I wrong about this?
Nick Ferrari is the quality presenter along with Iain Dale although Nick does have the habit of talking over people which is irritating.
Sheila Fogarty bit boring limited topics and a bit right on at times.
Don't usually listen much of an evening so no real opinion . Ian Payne seems ok.

Not mentioned the 10 to 1 slot enough said.

You are wrong I'm afraid...
Firstly he/she can say what he wants to unless it breaches forum rules.... he/she hasn't as its not a racist term at all just a description of pampered generation...and by the way snow being white isn't it racist to white people if anything if you interpret it that way?

.... Wikipedia below but quotes the Collins dictionary as well if you disagree that Wikipedia is credible source......
The term "Generation Snowflake", or its variant "Snowflake Generation", originated in the United States,[3] making reference to parents reportedly raising their children as "special" and "precious" snowflakes.[4][3][5] It has been suggested that this usage originates from Chuck Palahniuk’s Fight Club, which includes the line "You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake."[6][7] In the 2014 film The Lego Movie, the character Lord Business uses the term saying "No one ever told me I was special. I never got a trophy just for showing up! I'm not some special little snowflake".

The term "snowflake generation" was one of Collins Dictionary's 2016 words; it defines the term as "the young adults of the 2010s, viewed as being less resilient and more prone to taking offence than previous generations"

Yes I agree there and Ken & Dave were definitely my favourites, but you would have thought that in principle someone with the same or similar politics to your own would be a better listen which doesn't seem to be the case on LBC. I also think that it is true and there has been an attempt to make it 'angry radio' - which is fine with JOB (comes naturally) but evidently contrived with AC - who sounds like he has been hit with his own tennis racket to make him sound passionate about anything

Also although it is nice listening to Ian Payne etc I think you can hear that on other stations - BBC - and I do enjoy the passion this forum shows on subjects brought up on show - and don't get me started on NHS parking charges - I work there and it costs a fortune for the staff let alone patients and you are lucky to get a parking place after 8 am (but at least the Trust I work for has come top of the league in something!!!!)
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The term is used right here in the (Politics) forum to describe anyone with Liberal views that the poster does not agree with. A useage which is clearly much wider than you have claimed.

I enjoy pointing out posts which are claiming that "snowflakes" are "shutting them down"....are stopping them from discussing Immigration.....or anything else that the "snowflake" chooses......and that this has been the case for 20 years....

I'm very sorry but I don't recall that post from nearly seven years ago. I know I should. Here's hoping that some of my posts in 2017 are as memorable for you. Thank you for your enthusiasm, it is greatly appreciated.

Very much enjoying The Hopkins. I don't always agree with her but some peoples reaction to her (particularly on Twitter) is rather curious. I don't understand why these people dislike free speech so much. It is the lifeblood of a healthy democracy. As well as making good radio.

What's your point about free speech exactly?
Is it that Hopkins can say what she wants but people on twitter can't?
Curious indeed.

Hopkins vs Brian (Part 1)

"That bloody woman, how can they employ that Nazi!" screamed the middle-aged man as his Volvo violently jerked out of the exit from the Cornish farmers market and lurched into the oncoming traffic. "Calm down, James..you know this is family time" pleaded his Estuary accented wife as she tried to reassure both her husband and two young girls sitting silently in the back seats

."Just listen to her, she is making mince-meat of poor old Shelagh. This isn't good. Hopkins hasn't mentioned the NHS once yet or tried to appease any violent religious fantatics to validate her own extreme beliefs!"

The wife knew that this was the tip of the iceberg and that it was lucky that her husbands show had been covered by a more reliably dull presenter. Hopkins had him on the run. She knew it, Hopkins knew it and sadly, her husband knew it.

"The Sun Always Shines On Tv" blared from the car MP3 player and Brian thought of Newsnight (trying to forget the other abominable self-named show) and how he would soon be at the BBC full time. He hated Katie. Even more than Nigel.

That's not what tahiti is referring to though ...

If you google 'snowflake racist slur' you will get another explanation but no one here has even hinted at it's use in that context ... tahiti is finding offence where there is none.

Nothing to do with LBC.
Dunno if DS have a forum for fiction, perhaps they should.

I have one or two friends who like to rant like LBC presenters and regular contributors but frankly I can't be bothered. Very little that is discussed affects me personally and I have got better things to do with my time than listen to self-appointed know-it-alls and the people that they attract over the airwaves.

If you intend to discuss - in 2017 - actual Radio content from 2017, that would be a good thing.

But the signs are not good.

It is not for me to say what chit-chat thread regulars wanted for Christmas but I will take a wild guess and say that they were probably not hoping that someone would wake from a long sleep and embark upon a JOB Detractor Tribute Act using catch phrases that sound familiar and (perhaps) pompous.

Glad this forum is open to contributors who neither want to contribute or comment on any aspects of a radio station they don't listen to anyway, inhabited by presenters they neither like or listen to. Still its obviously a broad church - inclusive of people riding on high horses

The problem is with the usage Ms Hopkins makes of free speech.

1. free speech is no license for gratuitous offense. Ms Hopkins appears unable to express her radical views using civil language. Other people of similar views are quite able to. Is she so illiterate that she is unable to express herself without recourse to slurs and insults ?

2. Ms Hopkins, whilst free in my view to express whatever she likes, may not go on to dictate the impact of her words on her audience. She appears offended that some , myself included, find her offensive, hence the incessant appeals to 'free speech'.

In Ms Hopkins' world , not only should targets accept to be insulted, but targets are also denied their emotions.

Perhaps we could have a separate LBC JOB and Hopkins unappreciation thread - but it might make this one redundant.

I have really enjoyed listening to John Stapleton at 10am this week. Calm thoughtful and reasoned and polite to callers with no 20 minute rant including references to Donald Trump (even if the subject is about UK elderly social Care) at the start - just present the topic, get an expert on and then invite views. Isn't that how talk radio should work?

Surely JOB deserves a longer holiday - and so do we!

I am the only one here who sees the irony in someone finding the term "snowflake" offensive?

Could anyone tell me who presented the hour on Richard Hammond's homophobic comments yesterday? I'd like to listen to the podcast but not sure whose show it was on.

There used to be a separate thread for JOB about a year ago Marty. The mods created one specially for a poster who spammed this thread relentlessly.

We aren't in the Politics forum Landis, we are specifically referring the comment by Tahiti in the post above in the chit-chat thread.
Why posit something that not all on chit-chat go to much if at all? It's not relevant to this conversation at all.

In this thread Tahiti said snowflake was racist term... it wasn't used by Gurney like that and I even gave you the Collins definition of it........not sure what else you need really.....

Definitely welcome back again Wolfie... this made me hope lady phoebej reads this she'll be in hysterics.....

John Stapleton is an excellent presenter, experienced calm and reasonable whom a lot could be learned from I quite agree, but surely there is room on a 24 hour radio station for all types of presenters. I just wish (like a lot of people) the subjects could be a bit more varied.

Lets be honest if JOB or SA did disappear within weeks there would be an outcry to get them back with eulogies of what a great men they were and how dull it is now (well there may be SOME exceptions to that)

It's well written and funny whether you like him or not...and of course it's to do with LBC.... it's not about 5live is it.........have you not a sense of humour?

Again, another sense of humour bypass..... the use of pompous and JOB together in a sentence has been applied before and is quite appropriate)