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Is he describing you?
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I'm simply asking a question - if the fans weren't pushing then who was? It wasn't the police , so who else was there?
Pushing doesn't just happen, its not a force of nature. I don't go to football matches but I've seen it at festivals and I've seen it at crowded tube stations - idiots at the back of a crowd actively push in or even shove people ahead even though they can see its crowded in front of them. The evidence was examined by the jury and THE FANS WERE NOT RESPONSIBLE. Not sure why I need to repeat facts which are widely available. |
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Virtually every moment of what happened that day was caught on camera inside and outside the ground. The crush happened because the police opened gate C and let more people into an already overcrowded enclosed space.
The evidence was examined by the jury and THE FANS WERE NOT RESPONSIBLE. Not sure why I need to repeat facts which are widely available. Surely, if the pen was already crowded but a gate was then opened to let even more people through - those trying to get in probably couldn't see the front. It would have been a natural reaction to push to try and get themselves further forward. |
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I wonder if Ken will be back on LBC. He's getting a kicking on social media for going on Radio 4 this morning and defending Naz Shah. His remarks do make you wonder if he's losing it. Some Labour MPs are calling for him to be suspended from the party.
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I wasn't there, I only know what has been reported.
Surely, if the pen was already crowded but a gate was then opened to let even more people through - those trying to get in probably couldn't see the front. It would have been a natural reaction to push to try and get themselves further forward. |
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Virtually every moment of what happened that day was caught on camera inside and outside the ground. The crush happened because the police opened gate C and let more people into an already overcrowded enclosed space.
The evidence was examined by the jury and THE FANS WERE NOT RESPONSIBLE. Not sure why I need to repeat facts which are widely available. |
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The conclusion was that there wouldn't have been any pushing if the police hadn't opened the gate.
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I wonder if Ken will be back on LBC. He's getting a kicking on social media for going on Radio 4 this morning and defending Naz Shah. His remarks do make you wonder if he's losing it. Some Labour MPs are calling for him to be suspended from the party.
I wonder if it would have been the same if Katie Hopkins or Nigel Farage had made those comments ? ![]() Scrap that ... I'm not surprised by the reaction on this board. |
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A jury decision is not a fact. If the facts were incontrovertable it wouldn't have taken 30 years and a jury trial to get to a conclusion would it.
BTW the jury decision IS a fact. |
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I'm surprised at the lack of outrage on this board regarding Ken's behaviour.
I wonder if it would have been the same if Katie Hopkins or Nigel Farage had made those comments ? ![]() Scrap that ... I'm not surprised by the reaction on this board. Speaking off Katie, she's written a very moving piece in the DM about Hillsborough. But, no doubt, some people will refuse to give her any credit for not always being the monster they believe her to be. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-t-enough.html |
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Probably not. But the unnecessary pushing occured and it wasn't the police doing it. But I guess we have to treat people as children these days in the current climate - not responsible for their own actions, always someone else to blame.
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Some people can always find excuses for politicians who represent their own political leanings.
Speaking off Katie, she's written a very moving piece in the DM about Hillsborough. But, no doubt, some people will refuse to give her any credit for not always being the monster they believe her to be. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-t-enough.html I don't regard Ms. Hopkins as a monster. To slightly misquote the late Robert Robinson I regard her as someone who is famous for being famous. |
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Some people can always find excuses for politicians who represent their own political leanings.
Speaking off Katie, she's written a very moving piece in the DM about Hillsborough. But, no doubt, some people will refuse to give her any credit for not always being the monster they believe her to be. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-t-enough.html I read it yesterday and thought for once she got it right. I was shocked about her husband losing so many siblings. Very sad. She's a bright woman there is no doubt and can be very sensible when she's not trying to outrage. |
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I would love to inhabit your world where you can just ignore things that don't suit your narrative. I know you hate the BBC but you would be a wow on Fighting Talk at the end when you are asked to defend the indefensible.
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BLIMEY! That was fun!
http://www.lbc.co.uk/watch-ken-confr...ism-row-129544 See it here: http://order-order.com/2016/04/28/wa...king-disgrace/ |
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BLIMEY! That was fun!
http://www.lbc.co.uk/watch-ken-confr...ism-row-129544 See it here: http://order-order.com/2016/04/28/wa...king-disgrace/ Ken really isn't making any friends is he ? ![]() If Ken had looked at me with that smirk on his face ..... One day it's going to get him a slap (and I'm not condoning violence, but his arrogance is unbelievable) |
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I wonder if Ken's shenanigans will have a detrimental impact on Sadiq Khan's bid to be London Mayor.
One week away from local and mayoral elections, what an earth is happening to the Labour Party? Imploding from within. |
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I wonder if Ken's shenanigans will have a detrimental impact on Sadiq Khan's bid to be London Mayor.
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Ken has been suspended ....
It's been like an Ealing Comedy this morning ... And apparently George Galloway has come out in support of Ken!! ![]() LBC right in the thick of things. Started off on Iain dales show yesterday and exploded during JOB's . |
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Ken has been kicked out of the Labour Party over his offensive remarks over Jews. I'm sure he will be kicked out of LBC now
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Ken has been kicked out of the Labour Party over his offensive remarks over Jews. I'm sure he will be kicked out of LBC now
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Not necessarily. Global thrive on a bit of controversy and this'll bring the callers flooding in to his show if he's still on on saturday.
If anything, it will be the Labour Party who will call the shots - not LBC. |
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Tut tut Ken Livingstone. Highly pleasurable to see the labour leadership implode before our very eyes. The truth always comes out. Good grief I would let this bunch of loons boil me an egg let alone run our country. And it was a "no comment" from Corbyn in that stupid Lenin cap he wears. Absolutely laughable.
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Tut tut Ken Livingstone. Highly pleasurable to see the labour leadership implode before our very eyes. The truth always comes out. Good grief I would let this bunch of loons boil me an egg let alone run our country. And it was a "no comment" from Corbyn in that stupid Lenin cap he wears. Absolutely laughable.
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LBC right in the thick of things. Started off on Iain dales show yesterday and exploded during JOB's .
I don't think saying unpleasant things is enough to get you sacked from LBC. It hasn't been for Ken Livingstone anyway. He was on Question Time calling the 7/7 terrorists freedom fighters a few months ago. |
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