By eerie coincidence, today is the anniversary of Hitler's death.

Ken came across as an obstinate, self-righteous old git. 'Regret' is not the same as 'sorry', which he refused to say.

Even if Ken Livingstone does not get back onto the NEC, i still think LBC will employ him.

Why wouldn't they? He hasn't broken any laws. They'll probably give him a notoriety bonus!

I wonder if Ken wanted to do the interview on LBC because of his loyalty to the station that has kept him employed over a number of years? Alternatively Global may have pushed a wadge of notes in his hand to give them the exclusive !

It's possible. They must have done a deal with Sky news to show it live.

I'd rather they ditched Ken and hung on to Crick.

Ken and David was the first show I ever listened to on LBC. I hope they do not ditch Ken as they really make a great team. I never listen when they have any stand-ins.

I don't always agree with Ken but if he does not return then nor will i.

I think Michael Crick would be a good replacement, based on listening to him for the first time this morning.

I agree with you and think she handled the situation a lot better than he did.

I don't have anywhere the same problem with her as I do Ken. At least she did appear sincere in her apology.

You are right in that he is completely selfish given the elections next week. Ken, in it for himself and always has been.

Ken kept reiterating he couldn't say "sorry" because he was absolutely right over historical facts concerning Hitler being a Zionist in the early 1930's. (I couldn't help but think how Livingstone had a memory block over the subsequent holocaust and the slaughtering of 6 million plus Jews.) I don't know whether Hitler was ever a genuine Zionist or used this label in an attempt to expel them to Palestine in the first instance? Does anyone know the true facts for certain?

he was talking about the early 30s not the early 40s . now in 44 history will say russia saved 1000s from the camps but in 39 it will say they killed 1000s of jews when they went into poland with hitler .

I can't understand the attraction to this station. It is so blatantly Tory biased it might as well be owned by Murdoch.

I found this online by the historian Roger Moorhouse. The fourth paragraph down opposes any of Ken's claims over the early 1930's. Another historian might of course see it all differently as you say. History seems to have a strange habit of rewriting itself.

http://historian-at-large.blogspot.c...r-zionist.html

I actually agree with Ken in that there is too much 'anti semitic' name calling by people who don't know the difference between anti semitic and anti zionist. Indeed there are many Jewish people in the latter camp. But what I don't understand is why he came out with what he did when he did. The comment may well refer to fact but imo the context in which it was said makes it anti semitic.
Wonder if NA will comment on the interview tonight? His judgement is usually not far off the mark.

From what I understand there is a train of thought amongst the likes of KL that like to think Hitler was a Zionist trying to help the Jews relocate.

Hitler hated the Jews and wanted them out of German and didn't care where they went. That later morphed into the Final Solution. ( Auschwitz for example was originally a detention centre for political prisoners and Polish POW's , not intended for Jews )

He details his hatred in Mein Kampf way back in 1925 and Hitler, along with other prominent Nazi's, believed the Jews were responsible for Germany losing WW1 in 1918. He was never a genuine Zionist and his hatred of Jews was well documented before the 1930's.


That's my final contribution on the Ken Livingston fiasco.

NA won't mention it. He was adamant last night that he did not want to discuss it any way shape form and told one listener to phone Ken himself this morning and rant at him !


NA is really not conducive in getting to sleep. I find I'm dropping off and he says something funny and I'm awake again.

My new favourite soundbite is Donald 'Shut Up!!' Trump which has replaced my other favourite, Nigel 'I'm A Nutcase' Farage.


Trump is the gift that keeps on giving for NA's soundbites ... 'You're gonna love President Trump'

Maybe some people want to hear a "Tory biased" station. However, yesterday somebody complained to Iain Dale about LBC being a right wing biased, and he said in the past hour he had someone from the New Stateman on and a Labour MP. Hardly right wing.

In the end you are not being forced to listen to the station.

I think a lot of those who complain about bias are prejudiced by their own biases.

LBC is quite balanced, as I explained in detail on this thread a long time ago.

There are times when LBC presenters present an hour that is too biased for my liking. My general approach to radio stations is that if I don't think I'm going to enjoy what they plan to broadcast, I don't listen. LBC devoting an hour to each subject most of the time is quite useful when I take that approach. If I don't like the discussion between 6 and 7, I can tune back in at 7 to see if the discussion will be a more enjoyable listen.

Thanks for that PK, my history is a bit patchy. I had a hunch that Hitler could never have been a genuine Zionist.
Perhaps Ken L is best left attending his garden and playing with newts which he keeps mentioning at every opportunity.

A caller to NA was moaning about bias last night ... Nick's reply was they can only put the callers on who call in !

Michael Crick has a hugely impressive CV. He was the founding editor of Ch4 News, he later spent 20 years with the Beeb on Newsnight, eventually becoming its political editor. And he was the guy in more recent times who broke the story of Plebgate on Ch4's Despatches. Way more intelligent and media savvy than KL, who needed to be put out to pasture even before his latest huge gaffe.

David kept ontrying to press Ken to say Sorry cause possible saying Sorry might save him from losing his LBC job? Ken political career is over l guess?

Ken interview was recorded just before the live show cause it ended quickly

No but editorial decision if it's in the listeners best interest. If he keeps spouting off about hitler etc then it won't go down well as LBC could end up having protestors on there door step at Leicester Sq

He won't be allowed back to host the show until after the referendum on June 23rd, by which time it will be very old news.

It certainly garnered publicity for LBC, leading all the main news bulletins, with the logo in huge letters behind Ken.