This is the first time that we have been in the rather unique position of looking ahead to two series at the same time.

That being the case I though it might be interesting to see which one people are most eager to see.

Below I have listed a few pro/con type points on both series and their potential merits and potential drawbacks. I have tried to stay impartial in this post by listing good and bad possibilities for both series, as my below thoughts are just intended to summarise rather than sway anyone either way. I'm genuinely interested to hear what people think for themselves (will post my own individual view on a later post)

SERIES 10
Series 10 will be Moffats 'swansong' so to speak, and the last time to see a series written by him, with all his particular writing quirks, and possibly the last time to see characters such as Kate Stewart and Osgood, paternoster gang etc, whom Chibnall may not wish to use therafter. Possibly even the last chance to see Capaldi himself in the role.

Alternatively, for those who either don't like his vision of the show or maybe those who do like him but think he should have gone a year earlier will just see it as a Moffat series too many.

SERIES 11
Series 11 of course will be all new and shiny in terms of the idea's and the person in charge coming up with them, as well as possibly being partial change or all change in terms of the lead actors also, making it potentially fun, exciting and fresh feeling.

Alternatively though, new doesn't neccessarily mean good, and although we all hope it will be good, we really have no idea how we might each individually react to the new style. Plus, if the doctor changes, people who really loved 12 may struggle to take to the new actor, and if they love Capaldi with the series 10 companion and they both leave that could make it harder to adjust for them still. On the other side of that, if Capaldi does stay there will be a whole other section of fans who thought he should go with Moffat who won't be happy.


So, just based on what little we know, which are you more eager to see at this point in time?

P.s when you answer, would be interesting to add after your initial answer if you can/want to, whether you think your current opinion may change when we know for sure whether Capaldi and/or series 10 companion stay or go, or is it mainly down to the behind the scenes showrunner team for you?

Well, I'm more curious about Series 11, but in terms of excitement I'm looking forward to Series 10 far more. I've really enjoyed Moffat's era so I'm far more confident in his abilities, and I know Capaldi is going to be in it, whom I'd be very surprised if his successor could top. I'm ready to go into Chibnall's era with an open mind, but I'm not as confident in the idea of him in charge: I've never been impressed with any of his Who episodes and I thought Torchwood made for horrendously bad television (whom he was not only co-producer of but wrote it's two most ridiculously poor episodes in the form of Day One and Cyberwoman).

So yeah, while I'm very certain I'm going to enjoy Series 10, I can't say the same for 11: it could be anything, and while that's the most exciting part it's also the most dangerous. He could go back to RTD's campier and more bouncy style and I'd likely stop watching; or he might make something more suspenseful like the first season of Broadchurch and that could make for a brilliant new era of Doctor Who.

I probably sound likeba fanboy here but like some people, if anything I've just got my fingers crossed for Capaldi staying. I think he's been the greatest Doctor of the modern era, the only one who could truly stand up against the likes of Tom Baker or Patrick Troughton, and just one more series with him simply isn't enough for him.

11 without a shadow of a doubt, although I would love Moffat to surprise everyone and really pull it out of the bag for season 10.

Perhaps only having a year and knowing he can't weave a multi-season arc will focus him on the important stuff. We shall see!

Series 10, because I prefer not to get ahead of myself and dismiss what's up next in pursuit of 'the next big thing'. That, and Chibnall has a lot to prove to get me enthused about his involvement.

Well for me personally, I have never been impressed with Moffats arcs (though I have frequently been with some individual episodes) I am more excited for a potential arc I can invest in and trust that it might have a good pay off with series 11, which is why, although I have an eagerness to see both (especially since series 9 was Moffats best, apart from the arc), overall I'm more eager to see series 11 at this point.

Would that change for me if it is announced Capaldi is leaving after series 10 or staying?. Probably not too much either way. Capaldi is a great actor and has been an asset to the role, so I wouldn't mind too much if he stayed for series 11, but overall I more strongly think that he is too associated with the Moffat era and as such should go with Moffat to give the new era it's best chance (especially with people who turned off during the Moffat era). I think the only way Capaldi not being there would have a negative effect on series 11 is if they were to cast someone terrible for the role to replace him. Hasn't happened yet though with doctor casting so I doubt it would.

Either way, series 11 would still be a series where I would be willing to trust that the arc would have a pay off, which makes me more eager than series 10, which will probably be a good series overall based on series 9, but based on past evidence I suspect the arc will be muddled and leave me underwhelmed yet again.



Whilst not everyone would agree with your 'greatest doctor of the modern era' assertion (though he is a great actor), I certainly wouldn't judge you for wanting him to stay if that's how strongly you feel about him in the role. I'm sure pretty much everyone on here would like it if they could have had just one more series with their favourite doctor.

Series 10 - for more Peter Capaldi.

(Ron Manager Mode)

"Well, I take it not only one series at a time, but one story at a time. Brian. Just hope for a decent result on the day; see what Saturday brings. Hope things go well. Analyse later. Of course, it's also a long season and you can reflect on that at the end of the day and see what went right and want went wrong. Brian. Ahhh. Frockcoats for goalposts. Isn't it? Hmmmm? That was my Hartnell impression there, Brian. Marvellous."

ie. Series 10!

"Peter Capaldi has had an excellent season, how will he cope next season with a new strike partner, after Jenna Coleman left to join Real Madrid, er ITV?"
"Yes, he's done really good this year. Him and Coleman are the classic partnership, of experience and youth, but I expect a new striker to be signed to help him with the running. A lot has been down to the chances set up by the Scottish playmaker Moffat, Moffat's legs are going but he should have one more year in him"

As much as I've loved Moffat's time on the show it has felt rather stale this last year. I'm probably more excited to see a fresh take on the show and therefore my answer is series 11.

Series 11 may yet be Capaldi also for all we know at the moment.

Perhaps (and one can hope), but without that guarantee, Series 10 tops it for me. Especially if, no matter how it is reported, Capaldi is shown the door for a clean slate.

Easily series 11.

The only thing that holds some interest for me in series 10 is what are they are going to do companion wise, but have no faith in the actual stories and feel of series 10 as Moffat has long run out of stuff to say/do and therefor just keeps repeating the same tropes that he has done over and over (IMO).

I hope I'm wrong but I just think its going to be same old same old with series 10, and not even the fact its his last series is going to add extra interest or generate creative stories and risks out of Moffat because he thought series 9 was his last and he just delivered a dull un-inspired series that was the weakest since the revival (again for me, don't get flustered )

Series 11 is a chance to give DW a much needed new take.

For me Season 11 but let me explain why.

Season 10- The big appeal is Moffat is going out with a bang, what will his final arc be and all of that. But i feel like i will know what the tone is, the characters involved apart from the companion who seems like will be a pitstop. So overall there is less intrigue compared to season 11 as i'll explain.

Season 11- New writer, will he be good, or will he struggle, what direction will he take the show. What will the new companion/s be, will there be a new Doctor? What story/arc ideas do you have? I genuinely can't guess as i have no idea what to expect from him, and that is why season 11 intrigues me more, there will be a lot more change happening and i can't wait to see what they do with it.

Series 10, because it's coming first!

Series 11 - Out With the old in with the new, new writer, new stories, new planets, new adventerous arcs not in the style of Series 9 I beg, and just yeahh...... Bring on 2018

Series 10, natch!

10.... I'm dreading Chibnall, at least with moffett we know what we arr getting and he does do dome really good stuff as we as stuff i don't like. With no plots to keep rolling i think he might do ssome really good stuff.

Also as we dont know if Capadi is staying (and i thinkhe's great) don't want to rush his era

10. Just because its closer. I don't want to go into Chibnall's Series with over-hyped expectations, nor do I want to go into Moffat's final Series expecting it to be be another let-down. Better to just take them as they come.

11. Because it feels like Steven Moffat has run out of ideas a bit and the prospect of him doing yet another series isn't that exciting. (sorry!)

11 seems like an opportunity for a brand new fresh start - a new direction, new ideas. As much as people like (or dislike) peter capaldi in the role, he will have had 3 seasons and like it or not that seems to be the accepted 'term' nowadays. It won't be a good thing for him to go - it won't be a bad thing for him to go - but whatever happens series 11 is a big opportunity for another fresh start and maybe appeal to some of those lost viewers.

As a tribute to Steven (as i think he's done a great job!) - imagine series 11 kicking off with something as great as 'the eleventh hour' with a new doctor. The eleventh hour was a fantastic start for a new doctor and I think it was quite a feat to take an actor who most were saying "he's too young" or "he's not right for the role" and immediately changed a lot of peoples minds.

Its funny how people react to things though. As much as Matt's casting raised a few eyebrows and most changed their minds when he was in the role.... most people were ecstatic at Peter Capaldis casting saying he was a perfect choice etc - but the writing seems to have let him down with a lot of people not actually liking him in the role after all.

New start needed all round I think. Bring on series 11

Its funny when people hate something based on something else going into it they like it.

Its definitely the writing and the decisions made by Moffat & Co to what direction to take his character in, the sad thing is it started well.

When the writing is good and they putting across the kind of Doctor Capaldi wants and should be then he and the character is excellent, the latter half of Deep Breath, Inside a Dalek, ROS, Listen and the two Jamie Mathieson eps show what a fantastic Doctor he is/could be, those eps deliver on the twelfth Doctor, but the rest of series 8 works less so due to what Capaldi is given and series 9 botches the character, for the most part, there are some good moments and Heaven Sent gets him right.

Ultimately Moffat bottled on the initial idea for the twelth Doctor, the one Capaldi was on-board for and wanted to portray, and insteadd de-evolved the character, changing him for the worse. Its a shame as the potential was there for something brilliant, but that pretty much sums up Moffat whole era, wasted potential. (imo)

(The Silence is a good example of the wasted potential, they could of been a villain that became huge and used throughout DW's future, they were such a good initial idea, but rather using them in a standalone creepy horror two parter as sinister alien race that controls or prey on people without them knowing, and in a way that enables the race to be picked up in future stories at anytime for more creepy interesting stories, they are instead used as part of a convoluted arc that's a mess, it limits them too the series 6 arc and the church order of trying to get the doc killed, you can't use them past the 60's as every human that see's them should try to kill them due to what happened in series 6, they are not their own masters but rather work with others in the church, and their human colleagues have eye patches which allows them to remember them meaning that tech is out there widely and totally takes their power away making their scare factor and threat disappear)

I remember in one Teaser BBC ONE TV Trailer The Silence looked genuinely scary it was like a 6 second clip with one of The Silence wearing a suit standing in a darkly lit background with lightning behind them and the Silence just had its hand raised and it tilting its head as it looked deep into the camera and it just Saying Silence Will Fall.

They tried that with the Weeping Angels, and I really don't think it worked, as none of their reappearances were nearly as interesting as their initial role in Blink. I think if the Silence had become recurring monsters then by now they would have really lost their flair. I find the best monsters are the ones you only need once.

The Time of angels/flesh and stone was a solid story (though I'd rather the resolution hadn't been tied in with the arc). Also I thought the angels were used well in the angels take manhattan also. Yes blink may be the most memorable as it was their first appearance, but I think they have now been established in the stable of reoccuring villains and could easily be used by Moffat in series 10 or Chibnall in the future.

Regarding the silence, I agree with PaperSkin. Their potential was limited by the writing and their chance to live up to the advertising hype and be established as potential reoccurirng villains was wasted.