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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 41 (Spoilers)
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Futurama-Fan
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“What on earth have you done WWE. Your biggest crowd ever and you have to turn the mics off so your top face doesn't get booed out of the state. It's incredible.”

I honestly think they played in audio of cheers when Reigns got the 3-count.

That last hour and half sure did drag didn't it?
calderyon
04-04-2016
Longest ever WM is finally over.
FMKK
04-04-2016
Absolute garbage with only one great match and zero good booking. Not a single match had the right ending and most had the wrong winner. I feel like that was an energy sapping trial or endurance. Like WWE are going out of their way to see how far they have to push their fans before they finally break and give up for good. At times that felt like peering into an alternate bizarro universe. WWE is like an absurdist comedy performance, except it stopped being funny a long time ago.

It feels like a century since even the Lesnar match let alone that start of this show.
ICT User 77
04-04-2016
Raw is sure going to be interesting.

Smark crowd will be there again, and there was nothing to suggest WWE's booking is going to get any better.
KingOli
04-04-2016
Just awful, I don't know if it was worse than the dismal cena vs rock wms but it was close. Kind of sums up the last year of wwe, talented wrestlers let down by hopelessly inept booking.

I'll watch RAW tomorrow which is pretty consistently a good show after that I think I'm done. Cancelling network and I'll just stream nxt.
Joooe
04-04-2016
Certainly not the worst, it had some good matches - the ladder match, the women's match and the HIAC especially. But it was a strange show and other than Shane's bump, nothing to really remember in the future.
ICT User 77
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“Absolute garbage with only one great match and zero good booking. Not a single match had the right ending and most had the wrong winner. I feel like that was an energy sapping trial or endurance. Like WWE are going out of their way to see how far they have to push their fans before they finally break and give up for good. At times that felt like peering into an alternate bizarro universe. WWE is like an absurdist comedy performance, except it stopped being funny a long time ago.

It feels like a century since even the Lesnar match let alone that start of this show.”

And you just know Vince and HHH are looking at that attendance, slapping each other on the back and saying what a great show that was.
pembo2004
04-04-2016
that must been crazier confusing mania ever

Vince you had chance to start an new era in wwe but you played it safe why

3/10
richie4eva
04-04-2016
Superb matches with crappy bizarre booking, apart from the main event which was just awful in every way possible

No major face or heel turns, but some pleasant surprises and some good spots thrown in tonight

The women and HIAC stole the show tonight and a nice win for Baron Corbin in the battle royal, so not all bad

Crowd were superb as they always are at Wrestlemania, but it's just a shame people paid good money to see that s**tfest of a main event when they deserved so much better

6.5/10, not bad but as already said, MAJOR booking problems tonight and a predictable champion who is just not over in the slightest....Must do better in Florida in 2017

Not really a Wrestlemania that will be talked about down the road in a few years time IMO
Hollie_Louise
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by ICT User 77:
“And you just know Vince and HHH are looking at that attendance, slapping each other on the back and saying what a great show that was.”

Hunter is fine, he's got his "hey it's all Vince" BS that an increasing number of people are happy to actually believe. He doesn't give a shit, he got his ego rubbed tonight and did nothing at all to help one of the guys who could have been one of the faces of HIS WWE.

He's either actively involved in booking that show or he's very much guilty of not working hard enough as head of creative to change it.
FMKK
04-04-2016
http://www.profightdb.com/cards/wwe/...-32-23975.html

That last match was 27 MINUTES
FMKK
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Hunter is fine, he's got his "hey it's all Vince" BS that an increasing number of people are happy to actually believe. He doesn't give a shit, he got his ego rubbed tonight and did nothing at all to help one of the guys who could have been one of the faces of HIS WWE.

He's either actively involved in booking that show or he's very much guilty of not working hard enough as head of creative to change it.”

To me, HHH doesn't want Roman as the guy. That's the only thing that makes any sense.
AceMcCloud
04-04-2016
Night all, more moaning in the morning
ICT User 77
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Hunter is fine, he's got his "hey it's all Vince" BS that an increasing number of people are happy to actually believe. He doesn't give a shit, he got his ego rubbed tonight and did nothing at all to help one of the guys who could have been one of the faces of HIS WWE.

He's either actively involved in booking that show or he's very much guilty of not working hard enough as head of creative to change it.”

People need to realise he is the head of creative. Of course he has a hand in the booking.

And maybe FMKK's right. Maybe HHH isn't high on Reigns. If he is he has a funny way of showing it.
Hollie_Louise
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“To me, HHH doesn't want Roman as the guy. That's the only thing that makes any sense.”

I'm beginning to think this is true. I thought because he was spending so much time with him that it meant he wanted him to be successful, after what I've just watched I'm doubting that so much.

It's a tool to not only massage his ego but to increase the already prevalent anti-Vince feeling which furthers his own aim of creating this almost god like image of himself for when he eventually takes over. Vince is ultimately responsible for tonight but he ain't written a near seven hour show on his own, he hasn't written the last 52 weeks of television or PPV on his own but already the "**** Vince" is starting to appear which is fine, I get it. But my god Triple H is getting nothing for the booking of a seven hour show apart from the match he was involved in. He had to have had some part in it.

Whatever his goal was tonight, I hope he feels like he achieved it because he's played a massive part in the downfall of Roman Reigns.
CardioCortez
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“Superb matches with crappy bizarre booking, apart from the main event which was just awful in every way possible

No major face or heel turns, but some pleasant surprises and some good spots thrown in tonight

The women and HIAC stole the show tonight and a nice win for Baron Corbin in the battle royal, so not all bad

Crowd were superb as they always are at Wrestlemania, but it's just a shame people paid good money to see that s**tfest of a main event when they deserved so much better

6.5/10, not bad but as already said, MAJOR booking problems tonight and a predictable champion who is just not over in the slightest....Must do better in Florida in 2017

Not really a Wrestlemania that will be talked about down the road in a few years time IMO”

The crowd were all over the place for most of the night. One of the worst Mania crowds ever. They didn't react to the HIAC match until the final big spot. The only sound they made after that was booing Reigns (and popped for the Steph spear).

Women's match stole the show by a mile.
CardioCortez
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“I'm beginning to think this is true. I thought because he was spending so much time with him that it meant he wanted him to be successful, after what I've just watched I'm doubting that so much.

It's a tool to not only massage his ego but to increase the already prevalent anti-Vince feeling which furthers his own aim of creating this almost god like image of himself for when he eventually takes over. Vince is ultimately responsible for tonight but he ain't written a near seven hour show on his own, he hasn't written the last 52 weeks of television or PPV on his own but already the "**** Vince" is starting to appear which is fine, I get it. But my god Triple H is getting nothing for the booking of a seven hour show apart from the match he was involved in. He had to have had some part in it.

Whatever his goal was tonight, I hope he feels like he achieved it because he's played a massive part in the downfall of Roman Reigns.”

Downfall of Reigns? They've only got to turn him heel and all will be forgiven.

He'd have been better staying as Rollins' bodyguard after the shield split and tease his face turn from there, turning on Rollins. Not just randomly turned into this smug, personality-less cardboard cut out.
pembo2004
04-04-2016
Does anyone think vince is past it or not??
Hollie_Louise
04-04-2016
Actually I'm mistaken, I'm hearing great things about Hunter being responsible for the massive change in how women are to be presented, well done on scrapping the Divas Championship and returning the Women's. So he can apparently change the focus of the entire women's decision but he can't get Sasha Banks to win the new title? That's what I'm supposed to believe
Lee_Smith2
04-04-2016
- The chance of Ryder becoming a star ended 4 years ago.

- Ambrose looked pure midcard when the curtain came down on his match with part timer Brock.

- AJ Styles was mega over in the closing moments, but lost to an ageing part time musician.

- 7 current guys looked like muppets next to the legends trio of Austin, Foley and HBK.

- A geriatric legend had to help the woman win in the big women's match.

- They've admitted WWE is screwed under its current direction, but Shane lost.

- Wyatt's continue their descent into obscurity as Rock and Cena do a Warrior/Hogan moment.

- Everything involving Roman Reigns is just awkard.


Ratings for Raw will no doubt take another hit throughout 2016 and they do nothing to stop it. The only thing that wasn't an ego rub and had some focus on the future was the battle royal.
ICT User 77
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Actually I'm mistaken, I'm hearing great things about Hunter being responsible for the massive change in how women are to be presented, well done on scrapping the Divas Championship and returning the Women's. So he can apparently change the focus of the entire women's decision but he can't get Sasha Banks to win the new title? That's what I'm supposed to believe”

Yep that's HHH.

Only does good things in WWE. Never the bad stuff.
pembo2004
04-04-2016
if this rumour is right on facebook they turned some mikes off i cant wait until raw to ear the real reaction to roman
Hollie_Louise
04-04-2016
They 100% turned the mics off, I heard it as soon as it happened
ICT User 77
04-04-2016
Originally Posted by pembo2004:
“if this rumour is right on facebook they turned some mikes off i cant wait until raw to ear the real reaction to roman”

They definitely did turn mics off. You could hear it.
pembo2004
04-04-2016
night all see you all for raw
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