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I don't have it. Is it on there?
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Booked horrifically in the WCW quagmire after streak ended but I feel he exuded a tough guy presence that HHH could only dream of and was hugely, hugely over,
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At that time people paid tickets to see someone take the title of him
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One of the most influential stars in the business, both as a worker himself and in terms of his influence. He made Steve Austin as a top star and his Canada vs US feud was pure Attitude Era before the branding existed, as was him cursing out Vince. Better in the ring than HHH.
I still say Vince was wrong for what he did, I mean Shawn wasent going to be champion after mania so dont really see who it mattered who the Champion was because Steve austin was getting it. If it was me id have had either Shamrock taking the belt from Bret after beating Shawn on Raw in a number 1 contenders match or just booked a triple threat. |
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I still say Vince absolutely made the right decision to ensure Bret Hart didn't leave that building as champion. It may not have mattered who the champion was but an outgoing Bret Hart had no right to try and dictate who the WWF Champion should be when he wasn't there. Vince wanted Shawn to be his new champion, Bret didn't have to like it but he absolutely should have done his job
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The worst part was Goldberg should have won the World title at Summerslam. Hunter sat outside the entire match because he had a groin injury and Bill just killed the rest in the ring batters Hunter then takes a weak sledgehammer shot and pretends to be out cold. God whos who thought that was a good decision. Bill losing at Summerslam should have never happened.
Yes but there comes a point when you get pissed wasting money on tickets when he doesnt drop the belt. Take the Benoit match when Chris won the title it just seemed Hunter got every single title shot till he regained it, which he lobbied for Randy to take the belt so creative knew he wasent ready and just handed it back to him. Same for Goldberg lose the belt then the rematch then give him another rematch so he can just get the belt. |
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I still say Vince absolutely made the right decision to ensure Bret Hart didn't leave that building as champion. It may not have mattered who the champion was but an outgoing Bret Hart had no right to try and dictate who the WWF Champion should be when he wasn't there. Vince wanted Shawn to be his new champion, Bret didn't have to like it but he absolutely should have done his job
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Hmmm depends how it's slotted in and who against. I can see Bulletproof/Club (actually don't mind the Bulletproof name, could have been much worse) vs Wyatts set for Mania to replace their Lesnar story.
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I still say Vince absolutely made the right decision to ensure Bret Hart didn't leave that building as champion. It may not have mattered who the champion was but an outgoing Bret Hart had no right to try and dictate who the WWF Champion should be when he wasn't there. Vince wanted Shawn to be his new champion, Bret didn't have to like it but he absolutely should have done his job
EDIT: Realised that Lee just said the exact same thing... |
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Viince still refused to honour the contract he had signed with Bret. If Bret wasn't such a mark for the business, he should have just sued WWF.
EDIT: Realised that Lee just said the exact same thing... I still don't believe anybody would allow their top champion out of that building holding their belt knowing he was signing with WCW. And I'd say exactly the same thing if somebody refused to job to anybody the company wanted him to in their final match. If Bischoff, Heyman or even Dixie Carter (who am I kidding, she'd have gift wrapped the title and paid for the airfare to Raw) had done the same thing. |
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I still say Vince absolutely made the right decision to ensure Bret Hart didn't leave that building as champion. It may not have mattered who the champion was but an outgoing Bret Hart had no right to try and dictate who the WWF Champion should be when he wasn't there. Vince wanted Shawn to be his new champion, Bret didn't have to like it but he absolutely should have done his job
If I'd been Bret I wouldn't have wanted to drop the title to Shawn like that, especially in my home country. Btw in answer to your earlier question, Reigns came from FCW/NXT, and Rollins came from ROH. Not sure what relevance that has to the point I made about the future of WWE though. |
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You do know that Bret had a creative control clause in his contract? Also it was Vince who wanted him to go to WCW in the first place.
If I'd been Bret I wouldn't have wanted to drop the title to Shawn like that, especially in my home country. |
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And if you were Vince McMahon you wouldn't have wanted an outgoing Bret Hart holding your title on his way out.
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And if you were Vince McMahon you wouldn't have wanted an outgoing Bret Hart holding your title on his way out.
Were you even watching at the time? |
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Indeed, Bret shouldn't have even showed up to the show that weekend. Vince had nothing on him.
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Indeed, Bret shouldn't have even showed up to the show that weekend. Vince had nothing on him.
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Would have been a real shitty thing to do to his fans if he'd done that though, and Bret was nothing but a professional for his entire tenure with WWE.
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He wasn't going to hold the title on his way out, he wanted to vacate the belt on RAW the night after, which his creative control clause absolutely allowed him to do.
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I dunno. This was back in the day when kayfabe still existed, I doubt either Bret or Vince would want to break kayfabe like that by admitting there were problems "in real life."
That was in response to FMKK. |
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You'd have allowed Eric Bischoff announce on Nitro an hour before Raw even went on the air that the current WWF Champion was coming to WCW?
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I wouldn't have signed a contract I couldn't honour.
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Apparently Trips is going to be defending the title for the first time at the March To Wrestlemania special. WWE.COM announced it but then quickly pulled the article.
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You say it like they did the business in the knowledge that over a year later they couldn't honour it anymore. Unless that is what happened?
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Apparently Trips is going to be defending the title for the first time at the March To Wrestlemania special. WWE.COM announced it but then quickly pulled the article.
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I think signing a 37 year old to a ten year contract at double the salary of the next best paid guy was probably a bad idea in a financial downturn of the company.
Saw this on twitter yesterday but assumed someone had already posted. No idea who he will face/ ![]() Being serious though I had no idea about this event at all lol |
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Saw this on twitter yesterday but assumed someone had already posted. No idea who he will face/ Wyatt undoubtedly there to take the pin of course |
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