World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 41 (Spoilers)

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Harris_07

07-03-2016

If only I was as lucky today as Beth is in this clip:
http://youtu.be/e7rhnlr9xEc

Also, this is one of my favourite backstage moments:
http://youtu.be/oadrZ8frFVI

TheTrader78

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by Harris_07:
“
What a disappointment.
Do you know of any wrestlers who are Arsenal fans?”

Batista is also a Spurs fan

AgeOfTheGeek

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by Rich_Allen:
“I think Roman Reigns has the same problem as The Rock, he is clearly being pushed to the Moon purely because through his Dad and Uncle the Wild Samoans, he's related to nearly every Samoan wrestler ever, just like The Rock, who is half Samoan on his Mum's side and is also related to nearly every Samoan wrestler ever.

But he's not the only one who's been pushed to the Moon purely because they have famous relatives, Randy Orton, Curtis Axel, Bo Dallas, Bray Wyatt, Charlotte Flair, Paige, anyone? Although Paige's Parents aren't that famous outside of the UK Wrestling scene.”

That's quite claim for those two?

Rich_Allen

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by AgeOfTheGeek:
“That's quite claim for those two?”

Curtis Axel's Dad was Mr Perfect, and Bo Dallas is Bray Wyatt's little Brother, and the youngest Son of Irwih R Schyster, one half of 80s tag team Money Inc with the "Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase, managed by the "Mouth of the South" Jimmy Hart.

dellzincht

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by cris182:
“Cowardly Roman who was so badly hurt by the beating he took that he WALKED away from the royal rumble and hid in the back only to return when there were less people in the match for him to have to defeat, Then he beat his own best friend to get a title shot

Hero HHH who took a beating from Roman only to return as a surprise entrant and win the title to get his revenge

Who is the face here?”

Exactly. Really bad writing and it's been like this for years now.

dellzincht

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by Rich_Allen:
“Curtis Axel's Dad was Mr Perfect, and Bo Dallas is Bray Wyatt's little Brother, and the youngest Son of Irwih R Schyster, one half of 80s tag team Money Inc with the "Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase, managed by the "Mouth of the South" Jimmy Hart.”

Think he meant those two haven't been pushed anywhere near close to the moon.

James Frederick

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by dellzincht:
“Think he meant those two haven't been pushed anywhere near close to the moon.”

TBF would Curtis Axel have got anywhere near the IC Title if not for who his Dad is.

James Frederick

07-03-2016

BTW The Rock and Reigns are not actully related.

The Mavia and Anoaʻi Family are not related by blood or marraige.

AgeOfTheGeek

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by dellzincht:
“Think he meant those two haven't been pushed anywhere near close to the moon.”

Precisely

AgeOfTheGeek

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“TBF would Curtis Axel have got anywhere near the IC Title if not for who his Dad is.”

I think he would have. Technically he is a good performer and seems to be near the size Vince gets off on. Plus I can say, having met him, he has a fantastic personality so I guess that may have also be influential in the back

Harris_07

07-03-2016

The Big Boss Man will be inducted into the Hall of Fame this year.

stu64

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by Harris_07:
“The Big Boss Man will be inducted into the Hall of Fame this year.”

Very glad to hear that, growing up his was always one of my favourites.

richie4eva

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by Harris_07:
“If only I was as lucky today as Beth is in this clip:
http://youtu.be/e7rhnlr9xEc”

"What's your name? It doesn't matter....No I'm kidding"

AgeOfTheGeek

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by Harris_07:
“The Big Boss Man will be inducted into the Hall of Fame this year.”

Didn't know if this day would ever come. Well deserved.

Wonder if The Big Show will induct him

Harris_07

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by AgeOfTheGeek:
“Didn't know if this day would ever come. Well deserved.

Wonder if The Big Show will induct him ”

If only it fell on Father's Day.

BFGArmy

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by Rich_Allen:
“I think Roman Reigns has the same problem as The Rock, he is clearly being pushed to the Moon purely because through his Dad and Uncle the Wild Samoans, he's related to nearly every Samoan wrestler ever, just like The Rock, who is half Samoan on his Mum's side and is also related to nearly every Samoan wrestler ever.

But he's not the only one who's been pushed to the Moon purely because they have famous relatives, Randy Orton, Curtis Axel, Bo Dallas, Bray Wyatt, Charlotte Flair, Paige, anyone? Although Paige's Parents aren't that famous outside of the UK Wrestling scene.”

Charlotte is related to Ric Flair? I'd never have guessed.

Think there's a slight difference though between Axel's push and Reigns always reaching the last 3 of the Rumble.

Originally Posted by AgeOfTheGeek:
“Didn't know if this day would ever come. Well deserved.

Wonder if The Big Show will induct him ”

He must be glad Undertaker won't be either

FMKK

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by seibu:
“Then why push Reigns? Why ignore his obvious flaws? Why ignore the fan backlash? Why do WWE persist with trying to make Reigns their top star despite years of setbacks? Vince is on record multiple times as saying he's more interested in making movies than wrestling shows. Why does 'WWE Studios' even exist? What does Reigns have which multiple other wrestlers don't, apart from moviestar looks and a Hollywood connection through Rock?”

He's a very good worker, he has a good look which Vince likes, he's actually personally charismatic and we've seen evidence of the fact that he can get over if he's actually booked well. The issue isn't his ability, it's the fact that he is literally the worst booked supposed top star of all time. I think there's an element of sabotage.

The making movies thing refers to WWE's attitude to it's own television show. They're 'entertainment' not wrestling, and all that BS. But if they wanted him to have a film career they'd a) book him to be an actual star and b) out him in one of their movies. But they haven't. And they don't even really hype the movies they have made recently. There nothing to suggest it's a priority for them.

BFGArmy

07-03-2016

As bad as the writing is though, that sort of does ignore the fact HHH blatantly hired the LoN to remove Reigns from the Rumble. Which is a pretty big detail.

That said WWE does seem to have an issue at times where you could easily argue the faces are bad guys and the heels the good guys based on the writing.

Harris_07

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“As bad as the writing is though, that sort of does ignore the fact HHH blatantly hired the LoN to remove Reigns from the Rumble. Which is a pretty big detail.

That said WWE does seem to have an issue at times where you could easily argue the faces are bad guys and the heels the good guys based on the writing.”

I think that was the case a couple of years ago when a face was basically just flat-out bullying the heel. Felt sorry for the heel! Can't remember who it was exactly. Probably Cena.

BFGArmy

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by Harris_07:
“I think that was the case a couple of years ago when a face was basically just flat-out bullying the heel. Felt sorry for the heel! Can't remember who it was exactly. Probably Cena.”

I assume you mean the Steph/Brie feud?

Just the one Cena feud?

The Rollins/Kane feud was an odd one actually - normally costing someone a title match they'd pretty much won clean (the MSG show), trying to drag them to hell and trying to manipulate a naive employee into doing what you want (saying you're a responsible employee) doesn't make you the face in a feud.

Hollie_Louise

07-03-2016

Because it brings in millions of dollars?

FMKK

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Because it brings in millions of dollars?”

WWE Studios? I'm not sure it has even turned profit yet and if it has, it's pretty marginal.

Hollie_Louise

07-03-2016

Originally Posted by FMKK:
“WWE Studios? I'm not sure it has even turned profit yet and if it has, it's pretty marginal.”

I'm trying to find the figures but the last ones I saw did show a small profit in the millions. I'm not saying its Sony Pictures lol. There is also the US tax benefits of running a movie studio which varies state by state.

Thrombosis

07-03-2016

Apparently on reddit there is a post from a known insider - falconarrow ( he called undertaker interuption at battleground last year and Shanes return) say tonight is another Raw we don't want to miss. Not on the level of Shane o mac returning but something significant still.

Hollie_Louise

07-03-2016

Apologies, I've either misread or misremembered the numbers I thought I'd seen lol. Sifting through the SEC filing and seen my error.

But doing so, I came across the average rating for Raw and Smackdown through 2015. Something I've said before is that we only ever see the live rating for both shows. The overnight average was 2.64 (Raw) and 1.69 (Smackdown). When you chuck in the catch-up viewers, it hits 3.4 and 2.1 respectively. Glad I got those WWE Studios figures wrong as I'd been interested in the Live+Catch Up ratings for a while.

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