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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 41 (Spoilers)
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JMTD
10-05-2016
Originally Posted by stu64:
“Ah a incredible show..that is something I would love to see yet I think I am in the vast majority that think Raw has been on a endless downward spiral for 2 years now. It is a 3 hour show which most people could watch in 20 minutes due to how poor it is.

Jericho is awful right now, tired and his in ring ability is lagging way behind due to his age. His match with Styles at Wrestlemaina was average and the match at Payback was just plain boring. Yet lucky us get to see them try again. In fact most of his matches against Styles were sloppy and he was showing his age quite bad.

The viewing figures don't lie, people are just not that interested any more. Who really cares about R-Truth and Goldust after plugging the shit storyline for over a month...or Jericho/Ambrose fighting over a jacket..or watching Shane/Steph become friendly after wanting to kill each other the other month..this after Shane lost his match to not gain any control.

Oh and Triple H..the guy who is the CEO and husband of Steph..who lost his belt on the biggest stage..yet decides not to do anything about losing his belt or care what is happening with the power of Raw.”

Most of that has nothing what so ever to do with my original post. It's clear as daylight there's some piss poor writing, stories and issues, that's nothing new.

Let's not pretend that some of the sh*t stuff they do now is suddenly a new thing. It's been the case forever in the company when it comes to stuff like the Goldust/Truth storyline. Go back to the Attitude Era when the ratings were ridiculously high and you'll find ten fold the amount of ridiculous sh*t that will make this Truth/Goldust story look good (and no, that's not to defend the bad stuff we get today).

Don't agree on Jericho but fair enough if that's how you feel. Was pointing out how good he's been in terms of his character, not so much his ring work btw.
dave_windows
10-05-2016
Loved last nights show. Had a good opener but the best part had to be Jerichos coat which seemingly took a beating then the lights come back up and its ambrose. Was quite entertained by the show.

Really enjoyed the elimination tag and Paige beating Charlotte.

Im not sure I buy this happy happy stephanie though, seems odd why shes so happy with Shane, unless her screwing with the heels will go over several weeks then when shes back in charge no one will side for her at all and she will be on her own.
dave_windows
10-05-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Ahh was there, I must have missed her, my apologies.”

Yeah I remember in the 1990s when Rita Chatterton accused Vince McMahon of rape on an old TV show titled "Now It Can Be Told." with Geraldo Rivera.
stu64
10-05-2016
Originally Posted by JMTD:
“Most of that has nothing what so ever to do with my original post. It's clear as daylight there's some piss poor writing, stories and issues, that's nothing new.

Let's not pretend that some of the sh*t stuff they do now is suddenly a new thing. It's been the case forever in the company when it comes to stuff like the Goldust/Truth storyline. Go back to the Attitude Era when the ratings were ridiculously high and you'll find ten fold the amount of ridiculous sh*t that will make this Truth/Goldust story look good (and no, that's not to defend the bad stuff we get today).

Don't agree on Jericho but fair enough if that's how you feel. Was pointing out how good he's been in terms of his character, not so much his ring work btw.”

But that is my point, last night is the norm for Raw now. Boring and little to next to nothing of interest to watch. It has been like this for a good two years now. We are honestly lucky to get 3/4 exciting Raw's a year which is not good enough.

On top of that we have just witnessed a Wrestlemaina that nearly all of the results were void within the next 24 hours.

Look, I honestly did not mean to offend you..we are all wrestling fan. So if I did offend you, accept my apology.

Just for me, I want to be able to really enjoy at least 1/2 Raw shows a month, not be able to watch it all in 20 mins and still feel fed up. They really do have the most talented roster ever now and with NXT feeding more and more good wrestlers every year there really is no excuse at all for such piss poor writing.

This should in all honestly be the golden era for WWE. Great talented roster, the network in great shape, NXT going from strength to strength, no competition to worry about. Yet their flagship show is lagging behind and is in very bad shape. It is so frustrating as a fan to see this
James Frederick
10-05-2016
The problem with last nights show and others is to many promos which was so boring to sit through.

A 3 hour show and only a quater of it was actual matches.

After Raw I put on ROH which was great and has actual wrestling on it.
dave_windows
10-05-2016
So what did everyone make of WWE Camp part 2?
Sinister2010
10-05-2016
I'm probably gonna rant on here but before I do if I offend anyone I can only apologise for what I'm about to say did last night's Raw actually happen or was it all a bad dream? Seriously the talent is there I just wish WWE would stop producing so much tripe on my telly why did Charlotte lose to Paige via a rollup and why is she concerned about facing Nattie without Ric Flair by her side? Nattie you know the same Nattie that Charlotte has beaten a billion times in the past why the **** does she need Rics help? Also Rusev losing to Sin Cara (yes Sin Cara) via a rollup the same Rusev that's meant to be facing Kalisto for the US title how are we now meant to believe that Rusev can beat Kalisto when he couldn't beat bloody Sin Cara? Also 6 man elimination tag was awful the first 2 eliminations were daft and the 3rd took place during the break also didn't Roman Reigns powerbomb AJ through the announce table last week WTF was that exchange all about this week? Why didn't AJ just beat the living shit out of Roman he now looks pathetic also why oh why is this Ambrose/Jericho feud still ongoing WTF are they feuding over a talkshow, a plant pot, a jacket I couldn't give a toss their match at Payback was average and I just want their feud to end speaking of wanting things to end don't ever get me started on GorgeousTruth/Goldango the fact that is the main thing happening on this week's Smackdown shows how far Smackdown has fallen I'm sorry for ranting but imo that was the worst Raw of the year so far and it's times like these where WWE really are testing my patience.
Harris_07
10-05-2016
Only seen the highlights on WWE's YouTube channel. I have no intention of watching the full episode of Raw. From what I saw, apart from the WWE title picture, it seemed like the show was consisted of filler material. For a three hour long show, very little seemed important.

I liked the exchange between AJ and Reigns at the end of their tag match. However, I did not enjoy Anderson and Gallows being eliminated so unceremoniously.
hazydayz
10-05-2016
Paul Heyman is doing a Q&A tour in July in London, Manchester and Glasgow. The only one of these things I ever went to was the one Jim Ross did which kind of kicked it all off for the rest to follow.
calderyon
11-05-2016
Triple H signs a new 3 year contract as a wrestler:

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...-wwe-contract/
BFGArmy
11-05-2016
Originally Posted by calderyon:
“Triple H signs a new 3 year contract as a wrestler:

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...-wwe-contract/”

That's a bit of a surprise. Doesn't he normally only do 1-year deals at this point?
stu64
11-05-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“That's a bit of a surprise. Doesn't he normally only do 1-year deals at this point?”

He is still eyeing 3 more main events at Maina.
calderyon
11-05-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“That's a bit of a surprise. Doesn't he normally only do 1-year deals at this point?”

I wouldn´t be surprised if this would be the reason for all those (and possible new ones) "releases"
calderyon
11-05-2016
Also he is only 1 title away from Cena and 3 from surpassing Flair. Maybe he wants the record for himself before he retires.
eugenespeed
11-05-2016
Chris Jericho light up jacket in the style of the one destroyed last night?

You too can own one for a bargain price of $25,000

http://www.jonathanalogan.com/men-3/chris-jacket.html
Sinister2010
11-05-2016
Originally Posted by calderyon:
“Triple H signs a new 3 year contract as a wrestler:

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...-wwe-contract/”

Sorry for moaning again (it's been that type of day lol) but what's the point? HHH has practically done it all in WWE don't get me wrong the guy is great as a heel but I'm not overly excited to see him wrestle again after his match with Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania 32.
calderyon
11-05-2016
Brooklyn Brawler released:

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...oyee-released/
Sinister2010
11-05-2016
Originally Posted by eugenespeed:
“Chris Jericho light up jacket in the style of the one destroyed last night?

You too can own one for a bargain price of $25,000

http://www.jonathanalogan.com/men-3/chris-jacket.html”

I wanna own what remains of poor Mitch.
Sinister2010
11-05-2016
Originally Posted by calderyon:
“Brooklyn Brawler released:

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...oyee-released/”

Woah that names a blast from the past I didn't know he was still employed by WWE.
eugenespeed
11-05-2016
Originally Posted by Sinister2010:
“Woah that names a blast from the past I didn't know he was still employed by WWE.”

Been involved behind the scenes for eons!
ItHasPotential
11-05-2016
just when you think that company can't get any lamer "smackdown spoilers*
Spoiler
jericho vs ambrose in a straight jacket match


Spoiler
the club (seriously WTF is that crap) beaten again by the usos

i can't wait for the rematch on raw and the ppv, yay way to go creative way to go......... *****

as for smackdown
Spoiler

anyways save your self a bother on thursday or friday and don't watch smackdown, its pretty much a carbon copy of what happened on raw
dee123
11-05-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Im not sure I buy this happy happy stephanie though, seems odd why shes so happy with Shane, unless her screwing with the heels will go over several weeks then when shes back in charge no one will side for her at all and she will be on her own.”

Someone said on another site which i liked was Vince finally realizing both his kids are useless and him handing the keys to the kingdom to HHH. Brother & sister vs Daddy & son-in-law would be kind of interesting.

Though, yeah, it will probably end up like you say.
James Frederick
11-05-2016
Originally Posted by calderyon:
“Brooklyn Brawler released:

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...oyee-released/”

I wonder if it's more of him retiring than getting fired.
stu64
11-05-2016
Yep also seen the spoilers for Smackdown and it looks awful. I won't give any results away but two matches end in a roll up pin! Seemed quite a few end that way now.

Oh and we are now entering the 5th month of the Goldust/R-Truth story. Yes... 5 months ffs. Longer than any other story going on.
dave_windows
11-05-2016
Originally Posted by calderyon:
“Also he is only 1 title away from Cena and 3 from surpassing Flair. Maybe he wants the record for himself before he retires.”

Unless you count the unofficial WWE ones otherwise he has a long way to go to 25 reigns.
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