• TV
  • MOVIES
  • MUSIC
  • SHOWBIZ
  • SOAPS
  • GAMING
  • TECH
  • FORUMS
  • Follow
    • Follow
    • facebook
    • twitter
    • google+
    • instagram
    • youtube
Hearst Corporation
  • TV
  • MOVIES
  • MUSIC
  • SHOWBIZ
  • SOAPS
  • GAMING
  • TECH
  • FORUMS
Forums
  • Register
  • Login
  • Forums
  • TV
  • TV Shows: US
World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 41 (Spoilers)
<<
<
47 of 362
>>
>
Harris_07
13-03-2016
I thought Roadblock was a decent show. Nothing special. Favourite match was the NXT Tag Team title match. Lesnar's match was disappointing. The main event was good.

WWE had the chance to shake up the card for WM. They chose to play it safe. The build up to WM has been rather bland, but I'm optimistic that the matches at WM will be good to watch.

I'm hoping we can see the shock return of Seth Rollins at WM (like Edge at Survivor Series 2008) and for him to pin Roman Reigns in the main event for the World Title two years in a row. It's very unlikely, but I'd love to see it.
stu64
13-03-2016
I thought on the whole the matches last night were good. The NXT tag match was very good but the wrong people won but as we all seen, creative had no intention of letting any title change hands last night.

So despite enjoying some matches the who show was bloody pointless and should of been kept as a house show.

The whole Lesnar/Bray match was a mess and what they hell where they playing at. First it was advertised as Lesner v Harper but then changed to Lesnar v Bray but again on the night it was changed to Lesnar v Bray and Harper. The match was the exact same as the house show the night before.
It makes Bray look even more shit than ever before as he just wants nothing to do with Lesnar as well and it is not like they have a match at WM to carry it on. Pointless in the extreme.

As for the main event. Again a good match but with the build up to the main event at WM being stopped to promote this event it again was a pointless match and did nothing but basically a warm up match for Triple H.
dellzincht
13-03-2016
Probably been mentioned multiple times, but how sad it is that WWE's top heel is Triple H.

In 2016.
AgeOfTheGeek
13-03-2016
"Tonight everything could change leading into Wrestlemania"

...

Nothing changes.

Some good matches but completely pointless. I hope they at least go back and acknowledge Ambrose's foot not being under the rope.

Anyway I'm off to see the NXT phenomenon Leva Bates aka "Blue Pants" wrestle down in London!
stu64
13-03-2016
Also I was just laughing when the ref pretending he did not see Triple H use his feet on the ropes soon after he stopped Ambrose winning by having his feet under the ropes.

I mean come on, look at the screen grab below, the ref must be completely blind. Stuff like that just does my head in

http://i.imgur.com/cpYUYjr.jpg
Harris_07
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by stu64:
“Also I was just laughing when the ref pretending he did not see Triple H use his feet on the ropes soon after he stopped Ambrose winning by having his feet under the ropes.

I mean come on, look at the screen grab below, the ref must be completely blind. Stuff like that just does my head in

http://i.imgur.com/cpYUYjr.jpg”

If you're in that position and you have the choice to look at HHH's arse or his feet, what would you look at?
stu64
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by Harris_07:
“If you're in that position and you have the choice to look at HHH's arse or his feet, what would you look at?”

Ha, either way you could clearly see he is on the ropes.

I did enjoy that match but again it was pointless and just stopped the building up of the main matches at WM
FMKK
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by dellzincht:
“Probably been mentioned multiple times, but how sad it is that WWE's top heel is Triple H.

In 2016.”

Top heel and babyface, given how he acts in his feud with Reigns. He's totally tried to act like the face the whole way through. And he'll force Roman into the usual HHH formula match in Dallas so it'll be the Mania 25 main event all over again.
Harris_07
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by stu64:
“Ha, either way you could clearly see he is on the ropes.

I did enjoy that match but again it was pointless and just stopped the building up of the main matches at WM”

I agree on both parts. Selective sight from the ref. The match was pointless, it could've done with some run ins and/or a different finish.

As others have pointed out on this thread, Lesnar should have interfered in order to give Ambrose the win so that Lesnar/Ambrose at WM becomes a World Title match. Also, the League of Nations should have interfered in order to make Ambrose seem more like a threat.

Dean winning would've been a great shock. But even a dodgy finish (double count out/DQ/pin) which could add another twist - or detour - on the road to WrestleMania would have been good to see.
stu64
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“Tope heel and babyface, given how he acts in his feud with Reigns. He's totally tried to act like the face the whole way through. And he'll force Roman into the usual HHH formula match in Dallas so it'll be the Mania 25 main event all over again.”

Yet last night at the event that had the chance to change the face of Maina they did nothing.

I was so hoping for Reigns to come running down and then followed by Lesnar. All 4 end up brawling and the locker room have to come out to separate them all. Make the match a fatal fourway hell even just a triple threat, anything but the one on one bore feast it will be.
Lyceum
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by dellzincht:
“Probably been mentioned multiple times, but how sad it is that WWE's top heel is Triple H.

In 2016.”

That's exactly what I thought watching last night.

We have a man extremely over with the crowd (Ambrose) and a man who was in his prime twenty years ago beating him clean. They should have at least protected Ambrose with a screwy finish. But nope, Trips gets the clean win he doesn't need.

I have no idea why TPTB in the WWE are so staunchly against building up any future stars that aren't called Roman.

It's like Vince has said 'No other stars will be made until the fans accept Roman as THE guy' and has stuck to that for what? Two years now. Despite his pick being booed out of the arena week in week out.

The crowds reaction when he wins in the main event at Maina is going to be interesting to say the least.
FMKK
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by stu64:
“Yet last night at the event that had the chance to change the face of Maina they did nothing.

I was so hoping for Reigns to come running down and then followed by Lesnar. All 4 end up brawling and the locker room have to come out to separate them all. Make the match a fatal fourway hell even just a triple threat, anything but the one on one bore feast it will be.”

They've booked the wrong matches for Mania - Ambrose vs HHH for the title and Reigns vs Brock II would have worked so much better. Even switching he title match with Reigns costing HHH to help his buddy Ambrose last night would have been better. But I'm kinda tired of desperately cobbling together triple threats to get them out of booking problems. It would make no sense for HHH to allow that either.
FMKK
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by Lyceum:
“That's exactly what I thought watching last night.

We have a man extremely over with the crowd (Ambrose) and a man who was in his prime twenty years ago beating him clean. They should have at least protected Ambrose with a screwy finish. But nope, Trips gets the clean win he doesn't need.

I have no idea why TPTB in the WWE are so staunchly against building up any future stars that aren't called Roman.

It's like Vince has said 'No other stars will be made until the fans accept Roman as THE guy' and has stuck to that for what? Two years now. Despite his pick being booed out of the arena week in week out.

The crowds reaction when he wins in the main event at Maina is going to be interesting to say the least.”

They aren't trying to build Roman as a star, or at least not everyone is behind it. He's had the worst booked top babyface push in the history of wrestling to the point where I think sabotage by HHH is a big factor in his booking.
ags_rule
13-03-2016
Anyone who thought they were going to change Mania booking plans last night was deluded.

This was a televised house show - nothing more, nothing less. It was not a PPV, nor a "special event".

To change course at this stage would be even worse than sticking with it.

I will repeat my prediction that Mania ends with Reigns as champion, but our final image of the night will be his victory party ruined by either Seth or Cena, to send the punters home happy.
FMKK
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“Anyone who thought they were going to change Mania booking plans last night was deluded.

This was a televised house show - nothing more, nothing less. It was not a PPV, nor a "special event".

To change course at this stage would be even worse than sticking with it.

I will repeat my prediction that Mania ends with Reigns as champion, but our final image of the night will be his victory party ruined by either Seth or Cena, to send the punters home happy.”

At this rate, I think they're ending the show with the Undertaker vs Shane match.
stu64
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“They've booked the wrong matches for Mania - Ambrose vs HHH for the title and Reigns vs Brock II would have worked so much better. Even switching he title match with Reigns costing HHH to help his buddy Ambrose last night would have been better. But I'm kinda tired of desperately cobbling together triple threats to get them out of booking problems. It would make no sense for HHH to allow that either.”

Just messed up again haven't they for the 2 main events. Even though I really like the idea right now of Shane facing Taker that also was just thrown together at the last minute through desperation and I do worry where that all goes as I feel they are writing it on the fly!!

I am slightly concerned that they may go with Lesnar/Bray at WM still after they had Bray just walk away last night. Then they will go with Ambrose/Triple H/Reigns at WM. I may be wrong but who the hell knows anymore
FMKK
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by stu64:
“Just messed up again haven't they for the 2 main events. Even though I really like the idea right now of Shane facing Taker that also was just thrown together at the last minute through desperation and I do worry where that all goes as I feel they are writing it on the fly!!

I am slightly concerned that they may go with Lesnar/Bray at WM still after they had Bray just walk away last night. Then they will go with Ambrose/Triple H/Reigns at WM. I may be wrong but who the hell knows anymore”

They aren't changing those top three matches now.
stu64
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“They aren't changing those top three matches now.”

Guess they just wanted Bray to look stupid then after him going on about making Lesnar bow to him ect. They might as well just kill the Wyatts off now.
FMKK
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by stu64:
“Guess they just wanted Bray to look stupid then after him going on about making Lesnar bow to him ect. They might as well just kill the Wyatts off now.”

The Wyatts are done. Bray must rival Roman for the most terrible booking in the last two years. Both were on the threshold of being main event stars coming out of Mania 30.

Though the rumour of Brock vs Strowman seems to persist for some reason.
Lyceum
13-03-2016
My only issue with Shane V Taker is that Taker is seemingly happy to just be Vince's puppet.

100% not in character for Taker right now.

They've made him the default heel. How exactly do they expect to make Taker heel in his home town?
ags_rule
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by Lyceum:
“My only issue with Shane V Taker is that Taker is seemingly happy to just be Vince's puppet.

100% not in character for Taker right now.

They've made him the default heel. How exactly do they expect to make Taker heel in his home town?”

*sigh*

I really can't believe people are still making this argument. Wrestling storytelling is pretty simple at even the worst of times and why anyone would use a phrase such as "default heel" in 2016 is beyond me.
FMKK
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“*sigh*

I really can't believe people are still making this argument. Wrestling storytelling is pretty simple at even the worst of times and why anyone would use a phrase such as "default heel" in 2016 is beyond me.”

Simple? This story is a mess that makes no sense. It's pretty clear the fans don't know how they're supposed to react when the prospect of the actual match comes up so it's not simple at all. If it was so simple, there would be a character who the fans are clearly meant to cheer and a character they are clearly meant to boo.
stu64
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“*sigh*

I really can't believe people are still making this argument. Wrestling storytelling is pretty simple at even the worst of times and why anyone would use a phrase such as "default heel" in 2016 is beyond me.”

To be fair though there is a lot riding on this match. Shane wins he gains control of Raw and if Taker wins Vince and The Authority keep control. This match in kayfabe terms could shape the future of Raw.

Yet Taker comes back and just says a few words and buggers off.
Lyceum
13-03-2016
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“*sigh*

I really can't believe people are still making this argument. Wrestling storytelling is pretty simple at even the worst of times and why anyone would use a phrase such as "default heel" in 2016 is beyond me.”

Apologies that the level of my wrestling fandom isn't up to your standards.

There are still very much heels and babyfaces in wrestling. Having Taker fight for the authority makes him the heel by default. That's about as simple as it gets.

It's not as though we've had any explanation for Taker as to why he's fine taking Vince's side in this.

I've no idea how I am supposed to react to this as a Taker fan. You're not. Good for you!
FMKK
13-03-2016
It's trying to have the cake and eat it when it comes to defending WWE storytelling: anyone who wants stories to be explained is told that wrestling is meant to be simple and anyone talking in simple terms about who the good guy and bad guy is meant to be is told that that's out of date thinking. In other words, it's our fault that WWE is half arsing it.
<<
<
47 of 362
>>
>
VIEW DESKTOP SITE TOP

JOIN US HERE

  • Facebook
  • Twitter

Hearst Corporation

Hearst Corporation

DIGITAL SPY, PART OF THE HEARST UK ENTERTAINMENT NETWORK

© 2015 Hearst Magazines UK is the trading name of the National Magazine Company Ltd, 72 Broadwick Street, London, W1F 9EP. Registered in England 112955. All rights reserved.

  • Terms & Conditions
  • Privacy Policy
  • Cookie Policy
  • Complaints
  • Site Map