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Old 28-02-2016, 21:22
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Anyone else heard these thoughts about Angle coming back and managing Jason Jordan and Chad Gable, as the new 'team angle'?

Also BFG, I just got back from Old Trafford, thanks for the 3 points
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Old 28-02-2016, 21:23
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Sounds promising....

One would think that given all the injuries, they'd put their absolute all into having exciting feuds with the others to make up for it. Clearly not.

Shhhh, I haven't thought it that far through yet....
That'd be too easy.

You'd fit in brilliantly in WWE Creative with the BIB.

I'll help - Shane O'Mac is probably Bilic. Because no way Bilic is Vince himself or worse Linda.
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Old 28-02-2016, 22:52
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Anyone else heard these thoughts about Angle coming back and managing Jason Jordan and Chad Gable, as the new 'team angle'?

Also BFG, I just got back from Old Trafford, thanks for the 3 points
I'd be happy to see Kurt back in any role. It would be unfair to package Jordan and Gable into any kind of 'New Team Angle' role. Mainly because they're really good and any time you try to blatantly make something a new version of a past act, it fails miserably. Maybe a short segment with a subtle nod to the audience, such as Kurt calling Chad 'Charlie' or Jason 'Shelton'.
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Old 28-02-2016, 23:07
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Anyone else heard these thoughts about Angle coming back and managing Jason Jordan and Chad Gable, as the new 'team angle'?

Also BFG, I just got back from Old Trafford, thanks for the 3 points
At least Cole won't mention it on Raw. I remember a few years back when Raw was in Manchester he mentioned the Manchester United beating us 1-0 about a dozen times throughout the show.

Manchester United superfan Stacy Keibler will be pleased with the result anyway.
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Old 29-02-2016, 00:38
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At least Cole won't mention it on Raw. I remember a few years back when Raw was in Manchester he mentioned the Manchester United beating us 1-0 about a dozen times throughout the show.

Manchester United superfan Stacy Keibler will be pleased with the result anyway.
Nah JBL will mention it instead.
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Old 29-02-2016, 07:44
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Fans. Smarks. Anything.

When one of WWE's main business models literally depends on their fans being on the internet, talking about an IWC as if it's some fringe minority like it was in the 90s is very outdated.
I refuse to be part of that group. I never saw the big deal about Ken Kennedy on his push,nor was I ever a fan of Zack Ryder or this cena hate. The IWC has evolved because now they are going to arenas voicing their iopinions.

All joking aside though Jericho must really hate the community after he bitched about them not giving his match with RVD 5 stars.
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Old 29-02-2016, 07:48
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Looks like fans will finally be getting their wish.

Shane McMahon's WWE return and match against The Undertaker at WrestleMania 32 for the control of RAW got a lot of fans talking about a potential brand split happening again.

Fans aren't the only ones talking about a brand split as there have been rumblings within WWE for several weeks now, even before Shane returned, according to WrestlingObserver. No word yet on exactly what is being discussed or how close they might be to actually executing the idea but there has been at least talk of doing some kind of split with RAW and SmackDown.

It will be very interesting to see if WWE could pull off a brand split with the way business is today. It doesn't sound like NXT would be involved but that wasn't stated in the report. There's also no word on if the stipulation for Hell In a Cell at WrestleMania would tie into the split but it seems like that would be the easiest way to get there.
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Old 29-02-2016, 08:13
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I'm all for a brand split, but would they really just use the WWEWHC across both brands?
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Old 29-02-2016, 08:29
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I'm all for a brand split, but would they really just use the WWEWHC across both brands?
If you're going to do a brand split, they should have one main champion across both shows. Having two main titles in the past was a mess and world title ended up meaning little.
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Old 29-02-2016, 08:46
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Do they even have a big enough roster to do a brand split?

Currently the main one is mid 90s levels without all the injuries. Half of them will never amount to anything more than lower card at this stage. Of course they can raid NXT, but then that leaves a growing brand in a weakened position.
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Old 29-02-2016, 09:02
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If you're going to do a brand split, they should have one main champion across both shows. Having two main titles in the past was a mess and world title ended up meaning little.
I agree how can any World Champion claim they are the very best when there is another World Champ in their own company.
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Old 29-02-2016, 10:57
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I had no idea that one of Paul Bearer's sons who inducted him passed away last year, he was only 34.
Only realised after seeing the story this weekend of the family trying to flog of Paul Bearer's HOF ring (even though they have tried to deny it)
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Old 29-02-2016, 13:32
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Do they even have a big enough roster to do a brand split?

Currently the main one is mid 90s levels without all the injuries. Half of them will never amount to anything more than lower card at this stage. Of course they can raid NXT, but then that leaves a growing brand in a weakened position.
They're signing guys for NXT all the time so I don't see why they couldn't bring some of them up at least. Besides, a brand split could revitalise a lot of the guys who have stagnated recently. If Smackdown is the 'wrestling' show then I see no reason why they couldn't run with AJ Styles as their main focal point feuding against the likes of Rusev, even just while they wait for others to return from injury. I could imagine Cesaro playing a big role on that sort of show too.
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Old 29-02-2016, 13:39
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If you're going to do a brand split, they should have one main champion across both shows. Having two main titles in the past was a mess and world title ended up meaning little.
This is what ruined the Brand Split in the past. The champion should be the only one who can appear on both shows ie the WWE Champ, Tag champs and the IC belt. Id be in favour of unifying the US & IC champion.
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Old 29-02-2016, 13:47
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This is what ruined the Brand Split in the past. The champion should be the only one who can appear on both shows ie the WWE Champ, Tag champs and the IC belt. Id be in favour of unifying the US & IC champion.
It would be much better to keep the IC and US belts as the top exclusive belts on each brand so there's something for them to focus on while someone from the other show is feuding for the world title.
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Old 29-02-2016, 14:08
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Hated the brand split last time. I've no reason to think I won't hate it this time.

I'm the best in the world! I'm the WWE champion.....Sorry I'm the best on raw. There's a world heavy weight champ over on smackdown.

It didn't help that smackdown was treated like Raw's red headed step child. An afterthought. The big stars were all on Raw (Minus Taker). The world title became the IC title basically and meant zero because everybody knew the real star of the show was Raw champ.

Unless they do things completely differently then for me it's more of the sam crap.
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Old 29-02-2016, 14:11
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Bret's contract was 20 years, 3 years as a wrestler and 17 as office staff IIRC. It's possible in 1997 he was single-handedly drawing more money for WWF in Canada than they were paying him, but there's no real way to know.

Off topic but Big Damo won the ICW belt tonight, so congrats to him.
So if his contract was 3 years as a wrestler which Im presuming he would have signed in November 1996 then logically there wouldnt have been a chance of him even wrestling Kurt Angle. He would have been gone come autumn 1999 which is when Kurt debuted, who do you reckon Bret would have faced in his final match?

Im guessing Survivor Series 1999 or even No Mercy 1999 would have been his final match.
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Old 29-02-2016, 14:32
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They're signing guys for NXT all the time so I don't see why they couldn't bring some of them up at least. Besides, a brand split could revitalise a lot of the guys who have stagnated recently. If Smackdown is the 'wrestling' show then I see no reason why they couldn't run with AJ Styles as their main focal point feuding against the likes of Rusev, even just while they wait for others to return from injury. I could imagine Cesaro playing a big role on that sort of show too.
I suppose, I guess I just like NXT as it is now and its white hot roster. The thought of some of them being called up into the hands of creative is scary!

Said it before, but in an ideal world they'd bump up NXT into the Smackdown slot and regelgate SD to the Network, which would replace Superstars/Main Event. Instant alternative! Then have Bo Dallas, Adam Rose, The Ascension and Tyler Breeze back to where they were over.
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Old 29-02-2016, 14:49
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Im all for a Brand split, depending on how it's done! Smackdown needs to matter again and Raw has become very stale over the course of the last few years.

I would suggest Keeping the IC title on Owens and having him exclusive to Smackdown. He's a great talker, very good in ring and has all the attributes to carry Smackdown as a top heel (some would say he's already the best/top heel in the company, and i wouldn't disagree). However that alone wouldn't be enough to draw much/enough interest back to Smackdown, so i would also have Cena exclusive to Smackdown for a while.

Although they've already feuded (Cena/Owens), i don't see why they can't have another programme on Smackdown together. And it could easily work - Cena could cut a promo saying how 'he's won everything in the WWE, but never the IC title' etc....For all Cena's faults, he more than makes up for it with his good in ring ability, talking, main event status and stature in the company. And he also done superb work in making the US Title actually mean something again last year, no reason why he can't do the same with the IC Title. And tbf, Owens has been spared the comedy shite that hampers so many talented heels in the WWE of late, and he himself is doing a good job with the strap.

As for promoting NXT talent, i wouldn't have them exclusive to any brand. Raw still needs to create buzz, and having NXT talent debut on Raw is the logical step imo.

I think the only thing getting in the way of a brand split (the main thing anyway) is 3+ hours of Raw programming every week. They can't make too many wrestlers exclusive to either brand atm as they have too much time to fill on a Monday. And time to be filled with wrestlers who hold little drawing power atm.
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Old 29-02-2016, 14:52
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Having your own company be in competition with itself is just too weird. It was also always cringeworthy when the commentators would boast about their own brand, not to mention the geek-fest mutli-tag matches with blue or red bibs.

Brand split is horrible.
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Old 29-02-2016, 15:01
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Having your own company be in competition with itself is just too weird. It was also always cringeworthy when the commentators would boast about their own brand, not to mention the geek-fest mutli-tag matches with blue or red bibs.

Brand split is horrible.
No one is suggesting the company be in competition with itself (im certainly not anyway). And no, it shouldn't and wouldn't be anything like what you're describing. The Network has the changed the way WWE operates.

Commentators would promote Smackdown on Raw and vice versa.

No blue vs red rubbish either, just interchangeable wrestlers 'superstars' with a handful of top stars exclusive to say brand.
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Old 29-02-2016, 16:10
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I suppose, I guess I just like NXT as it is now and its white hot roster. The thought of some of them being called up into the hands of creative is scary!

Said it before, but in an ideal world they'd bump up NXT into the Smackdown slot and regelgate SD to the Network, which would replace Superstars/Main Event. Instant alternative! Then have Bo Dallas, Adam Rose, The Ascension and Tyler Breeze back to where they were over.
NXT Superstars generally dont do too well in the main WWE roster, probably down to Kevin Dunn & Creative. Alough seeing a NXT invasion after Wrestlemania would be interesting if WWE could pull it off.
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Old 29-02-2016, 16:16
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Is this spilt even confirmed or people just hoping? Same with all the talk of a more edgy Raw from now on, which I think is very unlikely.

It was only a few weeks ago they felt the need to edit out the Ric Flair kiss due to be worried of a sexism row, so I highly doubt we will see anything edgy.
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Old 29-02-2016, 16:25
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Nothing will happen to Ric Flair, he's been big friends with HHH and the McMahons for years, it will be literally swept under the Carpet, like the Hulk Hogan "Sex tape" thing.
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Old 29-02-2016, 16:28
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Nothing will happen to Ric Flair, he's been big friends with HHH and the McMahons for years, it will be literally swept under the Carpet, like the Hulk Hogan "Sex tape" thing.
But what Ric Flair did was nothing wrong at all, it was a normal heel move yet they felt the need to edit it out. The same with Lesnar giving the ref the finger at Summerslam. So that is why I think all the talk about it now being more edgy is shite and nothing will change.
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