Hahaha are WWE officials actually being serious or are they taking the mick seriously were they expecting Eva Marie to be more over than Sami Zayn?

WWE can be really stubborn at times. They've continued with Eva Marie as an inring performer, even though she's awful, simply because she's hot.

Her character works though.

My thoughts exactly!

Kayfabe wise her team mates were clearly pissed to see her too, they didn't know what to make of having her on their team! I actually think it added a little to a match that has been booked to mean next to nothing.

That wording is not how I saw Meltzer report it but he definitely got the wrong end of the stick on this one.

The Battle Royal has been moved on to the main card.

Should of moved the US title match to the main card if they wanted to move one of the matches as it is a title match

Who do people think will finish as the runner up on the Battle Royal on Sunday?

I personally think it´s either Kane or Big Show. Was also thinking that they would put Sandow in that position, but would that be too cruel, i wonder...

I don't think it does. She doesn't have the I want to see her get her ass kicked gimmick. She has turn the channel heat.

Think it'll be Big Show. Makes sense, even if it's boring. He was the winner last year, so he'll be 'defending his crown' against the eventual winner, Braun Strowman!

I also think Big Show will turn on Kane and eliminate him, setting up a match for them at Payback! Can see The Wyatts moving on to Brock after Mania!

Butterfly belt may be going in the bin after Wrestlemania

http://www.diva-dirt.com/122116/repo...-womens-title/

I think it will be Mark Henry who wins the Battle Royal. Simply because we all seem to think Braun is winning it and he'll soon be retiring.

Has the HHH/Reigns match been confirmed as the main event at Mania?

Edit - Ok it is....I was on Oddschecker and bwin had HHH/Reigns to Main Event @5/6, so i signed up with the intention of putting on as much as i could (buying money basically), but the bet on the site is no longer available....Darn!!!!

That's not what I was personally debating (tough to keep up with this thread so no idea if it was previous to that). I chipped in with a comment regarding Rollins after one or two said he wasn't a good heel which I don't agree with. I'm not going to discredit Bully Ray or any other heel to try to make an argument in my favor. Like I said, for me the entire Rollins reign was underrated and he wasn't helped at times by the booking.

That was my point and also along with you claiming WWE heels basically don't know how to play a heel, which in my view couldn't be more wrong. Feel free to argument against my point that I made on that one and the people I noted.


Won't be a popular opinion but I'm not against her like a lot of others are. She's putting the work in and NXT is clearly a good place for her to grow and potentially make it in the business. Believe me, this isn't the first time they've taken a woman with looks and done everything they can to get them to where they want up on the main roster. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It wasn't that long ago that the likes of Nikki Bella were falling into the same category, yet she put the work in and became a perfectly good talent.

The in ring work will take time, I'd quite like to see her improve her character and personality in and outside of the ring. She's getting ridiculous heat, she needs to lap it up and use it to build herself as a heel. Everything is in place for her, whether she's smart enough to bring it all together only time will tell.


Surely has to be the HIAC on last? There's no way they can put the title match on last considering there won't be a heel turn in it for Reigns and nobody will be added to the match. They'll need some absolute massive swerve or twist if they're even considering putting it on last.

She's working hard to get better, but she's not improving in the ring. Some people just aren't inring performers.

She gets heat, but not money drawing heat. She has go away heat. With WWE allegedly rebranding the divas division, you would think they'll be a focus on going with better inring talent and the Eva Marie's and Alicia Fox's just can't work at that level.

Honestly I go away for a few hours and you all start bitching at each other.

With some exemptions to be fair, honestly is there any need to call other posters delusional, telling them to bore off or that they must be "new to the business" and calling superstars 'indy darlings'?
The only surprise is that we didn't get 'vanilla midget' and 'IWC' in there for the full bingo house.

On Rollins, I have no intention of getting into an argument if his in-ring style is 'right' or 'wrong' and of course everyone is allowed their own view. I just find his matches and him as a superstar very entertaining.
And would add that even before having seen a match of his in WWE, I very well knew how good an in-ring performer he was meant to be along with some of the other ROH superstars from around that time like Bryan Danielson,Nigel McGuinness, Austin Aries (even without having seen ROH or NXT).

And for any faults, the guy did win the Slammy for Superstar of the Year last year so he obviously did something right.
And before we get into 'well how does that make him a good heel' - Chris Jericho won it in 2008 too back when he was heel and he was brilliant around then.

Anyway, I think the whole 'is X a good heel' thing is slightly redundant these days. Fans more than ever now will cheer who they like whether they be face or heel.
Lesnar was significantly cheered when a heel and often during Owens matches you get crowds chanting 'Fight Owens Fight' despite both being heels and not exactly doing anything face. Doesn't mean they aren't both good heels.
Fans have ended up turning Orton face not once but twice and he's clearly a good heel.

Another example is the Steph/Brie feud a couple of years ago. Steph totally the bitch we all (well some of us) know and love in that feud yet the fans were cheering her on. And I don't think we can argue that when Steph really tries that she isn't a good heel (I'm not including the 'belittling people' thing in there as that's a totally different argument that I have no intention of joining into).


Bit harsh on Alicia for me. She's pretty competent in-ring these days and her Northern Lights Suplex is one of the most watchable moves in WWE.

Certainly I'd rate Alicia over a few of the other Divas.

And of course she and Melina were involved in the best match of all time according to Cameron. And who are we to doubt Cameron?

The heat isn't a bad thing IMO. It might be more 'go away' style heat as you put it but it's a reaction either way. Reactions like this gives the person in question a real chance of making it. I'll always use The Rock as a great example when it comes to that. Once they turned him heel he took the negative reactions and used them to his advantage. He began to lap it up and used the reactions to build his heel character. That's the kind of chance that Eva has with the heat she's getting. If she's smart enough she'll heel it up even more to make it work to her advantage. It's why I feel her personality and character is what she actually needs to work on just as much as her in ring work. For me she's actually lacking in that area more than her in ring work. Study the great heels of the business and begin to add things to the character, begin to work a crowd better and so on. Negative heat is an opportunity that can be used to your advantage in a lot of cases IMO and is always better than a crowd being dead for you.

Wouldn't ever disagree she's got plenty more work to put in but I feel she's got the perfect opportunity to really make this work.

I need a Wrestlemania to watch in a minute, quick someone name me one - not 12, 31, 9, 17, 4, 8, 5, 15, 27, 3, 2, 1.

First to answer I'll go with. Be gentle, though I've eliminated some of my favourite and least favourite there

10......

Thanks. Knew I should have eliminated it - one of the obvious ones left. lol, thanks again.

You know I think the WWE might be serious about the women's division. Sure its not been well handled, some of the ideas are terrible and everythings a bit last minute. Just like the male roster

Eva Marie can't wrestle and will never be even half decent. I actually think she's a good person and I like her. For someone who is clearly fit, she isn't very athletic or coordinated and can't talk.

She is on borrowed time.

Even in terms of looks Billie Kay, Peyton, Lexi and Liv match her and all outclass her in the ring.

Ha

It was the first ever PPV i watch live as a kid. I sneaked into the living room at like 11:55pm and watched it on the lowest volume possible so nobody in my house woke up and caught me!

2 superb matches! A couple of alright matches. The rest meh!

Sounds about right Babe !

As if you know

Halo got in before me but I'd have named 24. A forgotten Mania but a good one.
A fair bit of dross (8 second match and Ashley match anyone?) but also some very good stuff in there. And one of my favourite WWE sets too.

Same stadium that's hosting Mania 33 too.

Yeah, that's a good one! Probably one of my favourites. I was deep into wrestling and WWE at the time, i remember really looking forward to that. Was that the one with the Battle Royal on the youtube pre show? Im sure it was!

Flip a coin or something Dan!