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How did they manage to drive past flashing warning lights, two barriers and a queue of cars?
Surely you are more alert and cautious when driving in a foreign country, not less? Especially in the middle of the night. Were they running late for their flight? Has anyone here been looking into how this terrible tragedy occurred? |
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How did they manage to drive past flashing warning lights, two barriers and a queue of cars?
Surely you are more alert and cautious when driving in a foreign country, not less? Especially in the middle of the night. Were they running late for their flight? Has anyone here been looking into how this terrible tragedy occurred?
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How did they manage to drive past flashing warning lights, two barriers and a queue of cars?
Surely you are more alert and cautious when driving in a foreign country, not less? Especially in the middle of the night. Were they running late for their flight? Has anyone here been looking into how this terrible tragedy occurred? I'm sure when they know what happened we will find out in the usual way via the news media. Until then what is there to comment on apart from what a sad and terrible thing for young lives to be lost and how their families are in our thoughts? |
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Still being investigated.Post Mortem found driver had no alcohol or drugs in body.(As Sally mentions above).
My theory is that he fell asleep.Still not been released who was driving (as if it matters). |
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If you want to discuss anything about it go on Flashback Forum. Not that there's much to discuss, as others have said.
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Still being investigated.Post Mortem found driver had no alcohol or drugs in body.(As Sally mentions above).
My theory is that he fell asleep.Still not been released who was driving (as if it matters). |
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The Swedish police said there is evidence the car slowed before reaching the gap, which suggests the driver was awake.
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The Swedish police said there is evidence the car slowed before reaching the gap, which suggests the driver was awake.
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Still being investigated.Post Mortem found driver had no alcohol or drugs in body.(As Sally mentions above).
My theory is that he fell asleep.Still not been released who was driving (as if it matters). |
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Swedish police believe the driver in a car crash that killed four members of indie band Viola Beach and their manager may have "acted deliberately".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-35744255 |
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In spite of what the investigators have to say to the contrary, I still believe the driver fell asleep.
The others in the vehicle were either asleep as well or simply were not aware of what was happening. |
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Swedish police believe the driver in a car crash that killed four members of indie band Viola Beach and their manager may have "acted deliberately".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-35744255 There are two barriers before the bridge and one after it on their side of the road. All well-lit but the one on the other side may not have been visible. The driver could have seen the first two barriers and assumed there was one on either side of the bridge - and that the bridge was now down. Perhaps he could not be bothered to wait and charged ahead of the other cars, not realising there was a drop ahead of them. Even if this is true, I do not understand why someone would drive like this in a foreign country in a rental car. |
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I read one theory that they were confused by the barriers.
There are two barriers before the bridge and one after it on their side of the road. All well-lit but the one on the other side may not have been visible. The driver could have seen the first two barriers and assumed there was one on either side of the bridge - and that the bridge was now down. Perhaps he could not be bothered to wait and charged ahead of the other cars, not realising there was a drop ahead of them. Even if this is true, I do not understand why someone would drive like this in a foreign country in a rental car. ummmmm ok |
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you make up a scenario then can't understand why it happened
ummmmm ok |
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ummmmm no, I read it, posted on a Swedish forum by someone who knows the road. Not my theory, I have never been there.
you read a made up theory, decide it's credible enough to reproduce, then can't believe it |
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oh well then that makes perfect sense
you read a made up theory, decide it's credible enough to reproduce, then can't believe it ![]() If you don't want to discuss this topic, read some other thread, don't attack me... |
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What is the point of this
![]() If you don't want to discuss this topic, read some other thread, don't attack me... how a group of young men tragically died in an accident? it's sad, nowt else to say |
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you read a made up theory, decide it's credible enough to reproduce, then can't believe it
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Was reading a short while ago and the article says that it was a deliberate crashing of the car but not sure of the validity.
I'll see if I can find a link. ETA: AOL are reporting http://www.aol.co.uk/news/2016/03/10...oid-collision/ (don't shoot the messenger!) " Lars Berglund, one of the police investigators, told Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet: "We cannot find any external factors. It looks like the driver acted deliberately." He added: "From what I can see, most of them died when the car hit the bridge." Police have examined CCTV footage of the incident. A reconstruction by the newspaper shows the band's car slowing to a near stop behind a queue of cars waiting for the barriers to open before swerving left on to a narrow hard shoulder then accelerating and crashing through barriers and disappearing from view. " and now come across this from the BBC site "Viola Beach crash investigator clarifies comments" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...yside-35744255 " Swedish police say they do not believe the Viola Beach crash driver "intended to kill himself or the band". The lead investigator was seeking to clarify earlier comments by police that suggested some of the driver's actions were deliberate." |
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Was reading a short while ago and the article says that it was a deliberate crashing of the car but not sure of the validity.
I'll see if I can find a link. ETA: AOL are reporting http://www.aol.co.uk/news/2016/03/10...oid-collision/ (don't shoot the messenger!) " Lars Berglund, one of the police investigators, told Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet: "We cannot find any external factors. It looks like the driver acted deliberately." He added: "From what I can see, most of them died when the car hit the bridge." Police have examined CCTV footage of the incident. A reconstruction by the newspaper shows the band's car slowing to a near stop behind a queue of cars waiting for the barriers to open before swerving left on to a narrow hard shoulder then accelerating and crashing through barriers and disappearing from view. " How strange. What was the driver thinking?? |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-mersey
Swedish police say they do not believe the Viola Beach crash driver "intended to kill himself or the band". The lead investigator was seeking to clarify earlier comments by police that suggested some of the driver's actions were deliberate. Lars Berglund said the driver's "only intention was to avoid a crash". Witnesses reported seeing the car going though red lights and barriers before the Warrington band's car plunged 80ft (24m) into a canal. Mr Berglund told the Mirror: "I have not suggested that [the driver] was doing this in order to kill himself or the band. I said he was making a move from the right lane to the left lane and that was not accidental. "We can see the brake lights. His intention was to stop the car. But maybe his speed was too high and it was too late." Earlier, a Stockholm police spokesman said: "It looks like he [the driver] tried to drive past red lights, barriers. "All the witnesses thought it looked like he was trying to drive past... there weren't supposed to be cars on the left.side-35744255 |
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How strange. What was the driver thinking??
As to why the driver did what he did your guess is as good as mine. |
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In spite of what the investigators have to say to the contrary, I still believe the driver fell asleep.
The others in the vehicle were either asleep as well or simply were not aware of what was happening. |
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Well I'm confused. The video appears to show the car stop but perhaps that was just a freeze frame to indicate the brake lights? Maybe they had to switch suddenly to the left to avoid the stationary traffic and didn't realise until it was too late why those cars had stopped?
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Well I'm confused. The video appears to show the car stop but perhaps that was just a freeze frame to indicate the brake lights? Maybe they had to switch suddenly to the left to avoid the stationary traffic and didn't realise until it was too late why those cars had stopped?
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