Now we have sky q what tv for when 4k comes

kirstiemcnabb · 28-02-2016, 12:30

Having had my sky q installed yesterday
Time to think now to get tv replaced for a uhd 4k one in time for when sky 4k goes live
Have enjoyed my Panasonic TX-L47WT50B, do not mind Samsung products
Not sure about the whole curved thing, it will be wall mounted
55 - 60 inch would be the size
Something similer to this TX-55CX802B and UE55JS8500
Don't suggest Sony
Will most probably buy from John Lewis

Any suggestions?

Winston_1 · 28-02-2016, 17:46

Don't get Panasonic. Read about the fiasco with them no longer working with ITV HD because they did not design them to the full DVB specs. Customer service don't want to know and try to blame everyone else except their designers.

Also bear in mind the full 4K specs have not yet been finalised so a set bought now may not work fully in the future.

kirstiemcnabb · 29-02-2016, 15:46

My panasonic works fine with itv hd on sky, not sure what you mean?
Works lovely on sky q
I thought the uhd stuff was all agreed now?

grahamlthompson · 29-02-2016, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirstiemcnabb

My panasonic works fine with itv hd on sky, not sure what you mean?
Works lovely on sky q
I thought the uhd stuff was all agreed now?

The issue is with Panasonic TV's and PVR's with built in Freesat satellite tuners. A lot will not work with ITV HD following a change to the forward error correction mode. Panasonic are refusing to fix despite there own technical spec stating the paramaters used by ITV-HD are supported. No one is saying that an external tuner like your Sky box won't work with these TV's.

skinj · 29-02-2016, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirstiemcnabb

Having had my sky q installed yesterday
Time to think now to get tv replaced for a uhd 4k one in time for when sky 4k goes live
Have enjoyed my Panasonic TX-L47WT50B, do not mind Samsung products
Not sure about the whole curved thing, it will be wall mounted
55 - 60 inch would be the size
Something similer to this TX-55CX802B and UE55JS8500
Don't suggest Sony
Will most probably buy from John Lewis

Any suggestions?

Avoid curved, they add nothing to the pq or experience.
If in no hurry, wait a month or three as this years range will start to appear around about that time. These will have had more refinements to the picture processing, probably better motion handling, better colours etc + be more likely to support any newer 4k formats that are still in flux. Also they are more likely to do the HDR stuff too. We're off this week the Panasonic dealer show to see the 2016 range.
As for the freesat issue, no idea what's going on there. No one has reported any issues to us yet.

koantemplation · 29-02-2016, 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirstiemcnabb

Having had my sky q installed yesterday
Time to think now to get tv replaced for a uhd 4k one in time for when sky 4k goes live
Have enjoyed my Panasonic TX-L47WT50B, do not mind Samsung products
Not sure about the whole curved thing, it will be wall mounted
55 - 60 inch would be the size
Something similer to this TX-55CX802B and UE55JS8500
Don't suggest Sony
Will most probably buy from John Lewis

Any suggestions?

I have the UE55JU8000 which is flat and I think doesn't have local dimming compared to the JS8500.

The UHD picture is fantastic, shame I don't have much UHD stuff to watch.

The HD picture is pretty good, but SD stuff looks soft compared to my old 40in HD TV.

Just watch out for screen quality, especially banding, which can plague the larger screen sizes.

Winston_1 · 01-03-2016, 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinj

As for the freesat issue, no idea what's going on there. No one has reported any issues to us yet.

Well it seems you really are "in your own world" as you put it.

There are long threads about this issue on AV Forums, Boards IE, and DIgital Spy.

Deacon1972 · 01-03-2016, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winston_1

Well it seems you really are "in your own world" as you put it.

There are long threads about this issue on AV Forums, Boards IE, and DIgital Spy.

Isn't this for tv's/pvr's made between 2009-2012?

If so this shouldn't affect the OP and their new purchase.....

skinj · 01-03-2016, 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winston_1

Well it seems you really are "in your own world" as you put it.

There are long threads about this issue on AV Forums, Boards IE, and DIgital Spy.

OK, so to read the threads about this issue I would need to know there is an issue to read about. Now I'm aware of it I can do all the research in the world to get information.
As I have already said, we have had NO ONE come in to our store with this issue for me to discover there is one.
I have a bit of a life and don't just monitor threads for keywords or problems on products that I didn't know existed.

kirstiemcnabb · 01-03-2016, 15:01

Thanks skinj and koantemplation
Looks like I will hold off for now then.

kirstiemcnabb · 27-04-2016, 11:12

Ok your general advice was wait a few months, well its been a few months
Sky Q 4k and their summer launch will be here soon
Is there now a tv out there to buy or are we still not sure yet?

Stig · 27-04-2016, 12:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirstiemcnabb

Ok your general advice was wait a few months, well its been a few months
Sky Q 4k and their summer launch will be here soon
Is there now a tv out there to buy or are we still not sure yet?

I've just ordered one of the 2016 Panasonic 4K TVs.

Philip Wales · 27-04-2016, 13:58

I have the LG OLED UHD and its a very nice TV, the magic remote is great.

Winston_1 · 27-04-2016, 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deacon1972

Isn't this for tv's/pvr's made between 2009-2012?

If so this shouldn't affect the OP and their new purchase.....

Until something else crops up that Panasonic is not compatible with. This not the first or even second time this sort of problem has occurred with Panasonic.

Remember the split nit.
Remember MPEG 4 sets not working in Ireland.

Matt35 · 27-04-2016, 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Wales

I have the LG OLED UHD and its a very nice TV, the magic remote is great.

Oled is definitely a tv i want next with 4k. My concern is screen burn which I've read oled tvs can suffer from. As you own one you'd be in great position to say how it is.

Philip Wales · 28-04-2016, 11:25

nope, not seen any, and I use quite a few things that like to leave images on the screen, youtube, kodi, netflix etc, never had a problem. With my old plasma even though I didn't get any burn, if you left something on the screen for maybe longer than a couple of minutes you'd get a residual image left, until the pixels cleared it away.

The picture is excellent, blacks are super black, the 3d works really well (never thought I'd say that). Web browser is good, I actually use it a quite a bit, and it has the more useful apps built in like Prime, Netflix, Youtube etc all work flawlessly.

kirstiemcnabb · 28-04-2016, 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig

I've just ordered one of the 2016 Panasonic 4K TVs.

Which one did you get, be nice to know what you think?

I had a look in John Lewis and Currys today and the one I really like is the 58DX750B
I negotiated and managed to get a good deal at JL with a five year guarantee, have a few days to decide
I may have to get a different wall hanging kit, but I can exchange my current one at no cost if its not the same

neilybealy · 08-05-2016, 17:58

I've also just got Sky Q and thought exactly the same. A few months ago I went into John Lewis and liked the Sony kd55x85 but the mew models are out now and KD55XD8577SU looks good but is £500 dearer. Also need to look at the Panasonic 58DX750

Decisions decisions

Matt35 · 08-05-2016, 19:45

Having now got Q I will be looking at getting a 4k TV but I'll be waiting until I see what sky bring out. I'm not sure when that will be. Price range will be around 2k mark and it'll be oled.

Nigel Goodwin · 08-05-2016, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt35

Price range will be around 2k mark and it'll be oled.

You should be looking at LG then, as the only company with the courage to actually continue large screen OLED development.

Deacon1972 · 08-05-2016, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

You should be looking at LG then, as the only company with the courage to actually continue large screen OLED development.

Panasonic do OLED too, the screen will be made by LG, the rest of the tech I believe is from Panasonic.

Stig · 09-05-2016, 07:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deacon1972

Panasonic do OLED too, the screen will be made by LG, the rest of the tech I believe is from Panasonic.

The Panasonic OLED range is very limited, if fact I can only find one model with a quick search. I've said it before; I was waiting for OLED but LG are the only company doing it. The likes of Panasonic are continuing to improve LED and the latest 4K sets are very good. I recommend a side by side viewing and ask yourself if it's worth the extra money.

Nigel Goodwin · 09-05-2016, 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deacon1972

Panasonic do OLED too, the screen will be made by LG, the rest of the tech I believe is from Panasonic.

Sony do too, but as I said only LG had the courage (and billions!!) to actually get large screen OLED screens working.

Matt35 · 09-05-2016, 12:54

Something like this but not curved. http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-...24838-pdt.html

In a few months time is there gonna be much difference with regards hardware upgrades?

aurichie · 09-05-2016, 15:14

I think now is not a great time to be buying TV's. At least not until Ultra HD Premium becomes more widespread and affordable. It is going to be the next generation standard, everyone that matters is finally on board, and the vast majority of TV's at the moment fall short. You are currently looking at £2,000-£3,000 for a good Ultra HD Premium TV.

So the dust is starting to settle on next generation, but we're not quite there yet.

28-02-2016, 12:30	#1
kirstiemcnabb Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 455	Now we have sky q what tv for when 4k comes Having had my sky q installed yesterday Time to think now to get tv replaced for a uhd 4k one in time for when sky 4k goes live Have enjoyed my Panasonic TX-L47WT50B, do not mind Samsung products Not sure about the whole curved thing, it will be wall mounted 55 - 60 inch would be the size Something similer to this TX-55CX802B and UE55JS8500 Don't suggest Sony Will most probably buy from John Lewis Any suggestions?

28-02-2016, 17:46	#2
Winston_1 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,008	Don't get Panasonic. Read about the fiasco with them no longer working with ITV HD because they did not design them to the full DVB specs. Customer service don't want to know and try to blame everyone else except their designers. Also bear in mind the full 4K specs have not yet been finalised so a set bought now may not work fully in the future.

29-02-2016, 15:46	#3
kirstiemcnabb Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 455	My panasonic works fine with itv hd on sky, not sure what you mean? Works lovely on sky q I thought the uhd stuff was all agreed now?

29-02-2016, 16:02	#4
grahamlthompson Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redditch Worcs Posts: 17,293	Quote: Originally Posted by kirstiemcnabb My panasonic works fine with itv hd on sky, not sure what you mean? Works lovely on sky q I thought the uhd stuff was all agreed now? The issue is with Panasonic TV's and PVR's with built in Freesat satellite tuners. A lot will not work with ITV HD following a change to the forward error correction mode. Panasonic are refusing to fix despite there own technical spec stating the paramaters used by ITV-HD are supported. No one is saying that an external tuner like your Sky box won't work with these TV's.

29-02-2016, 16:31	#5
skinj Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,206	Quote: Originally Posted by kirstiemcnabb Having had my sky q installed yesterday Time to think now to get tv replaced for a uhd 4k one in time for when sky 4k goes live Have enjoyed my Panasonic TX-L47WT50B, do not mind Samsung products Not sure about the whole curved thing, it will be wall mounted 55 - 60 inch would be the size Something similer to this TX-55CX802B and UE55JS8500 Don't suggest Sony Will most probably buy from John Lewis Any suggestions? Avoid curved, they add nothing to the pq or experience. If in no hurry, wait a month or three as this years range will start to appear around about that time. These will have had more refinements to the picture processing, probably better motion handling, better colours etc + be more likely to support any newer 4k formats that are still in flux. Also they are more likely to do the HDR stuff too. We're off this week the Panasonic dealer show to see the 2016 range. As for the freesat issue, no idea what's going on there. No one has reported any issues to us yet.

29-02-2016, 16:47	#6
koantemplation Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Wolf359 Posts: 96,797	Quote: Originally Posted by kirstiemcnabb Having had my sky q installed yesterday Time to think now to get tv replaced for a uhd 4k one in time for when sky 4k goes live Have enjoyed my Panasonic TX-L47WT50B, do not mind Samsung products Not sure about the whole curved thing, it will be wall mounted 55 - 60 inch would be the size Something similer to this TX-55CX802B and UE55JS8500 Don't suggest Sony Will most probably buy from John Lewis Any suggestions? I have the UE55JU8000 which is flat and I think doesn't have local dimming compared to the JS8500. The UHD picture is fantastic, shame I don't have much UHD stuff to watch. The HD picture is pretty good, but SD stuff looks soft compared to my old 40in HD TV. Just watch out for screen quality, especially banding, which can plague the larger screen sizes.

01-03-2016, 10:44	#7
Winston_1 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,008	Quote: Originally Posted by skinj As for the freesat issue, no idea what's going on there. No one has reported any issues to us yet. Well it seems you really are "in your own world" as you put it. There are long threads about this issue on AV Forums, Boards IE, and DIgital Spy.

01-03-2016, 10:51	#8
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by Winston_1 Well it seems you really are "in your own world" as you put it. There are long threads about this issue on AV Forums, Boards IE, and DIgital Spy. Isn't this for tv's/pvr's made between 2009-2012? If so this shouldn't affect the OP and their new purchase.....

01-03-2016, 12:39	#9
skinj Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,206	Quote: Originally Posted by Winston_1 Well it seems you really are "in your own world" as you put it. There are long threads about this issue on AV Forums, Boards IE, and DIgital Spy. OK, so to read the threads about this issue I would need to know there is an issue to read about. Now I'm aware of it I can do all the research in the world to get information. As I have already said, we have had NO ONE come in to our store with this issue for me to discover there is one. I have a bit of a life and don't just monitor threads for keywords or problems on products that I didn't know existed.

01-03-2016, 15:01	#10
kirstiemcnabb Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 455	Thanks skinj and koantemplation Looks like I will hold off for now then.

27-04-2016, 11:12	#11
kirstiemcnabb Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 455	Ok your general advice was wait a few months, well its been a few months Sky Q 4k and their summer launch will be here soon Is there now a tv out there to buy or are we still not sure yet?

27-04-2016, 12:57	#12
Stig Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sandy Heath, Beds. UK Posts: 10,385	Quote: Originally Posted by kirstiemcnabb Ok your general advice was wait a few months, well its been a few months Sky Q 4k and their summer launch will be here soon Is there now a tv out there to buy or are we still not sure yet? I've just ordered one of the 2016 Panasonic 4K TVs.

27-04-2016, 13:58	#13
Philip Wales Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: South Wales Posts: 5,866	I have the LG OLED UHD and its a very nice TV, the magic remote is great.

27-04-2016, 15:36	#14
Winston_1 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,008	Quote: Originally Posted by Deacon1972 Isn't this for tv's/pvr's made between 2009-2012? If so this shouldn't affect the OP and their new purchase..... Until something else crops up that Panasonic is not compatible with. This not the first or even second time this sort of problem has occurred with Panasonic. Remember the split nit. Remember MPEG 4 sets not working in Ireland.

27-04-2016, 15:50	#15
Matt35 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 9,552	Quote: Originally Posted by Philip Wales I have the LG OLED UHD and its a very nice TV, the magic remote is great. Oled is definitely a tv i want next with 4k. My concern is screen burn which I've read oled tvs can suffer from. As you own one you'd be in great position to say how it is.

28-04-2016, 11:25	#16
Philip Wales Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: South Wales Posts: 5,866	nope, not seen any, and I use quite a few things that like to leave images on the screen, youtube, kodi, netflix etc, never had a problem. With my old plasma even though I didn't get any burn, if you left something on the screen for maybe longer than a couple of minutes you'd get a residual image left, until the pixels cleared it away. The picture is excellent, blacks are super black, the 3d works really well (never thought I'd say that). Web browser is good, I actually use it a quite a bit, and it has the more useful apps built in like Prime, Netflix, Youtube etc all work flawlessly.

28-04-2016, 14:18	#17
kirstiemcnabb Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 455	Quote: Originally Posted by Stig I've just ordered one of the 2016 Panasonic 4K TVs. Which one did you get, be nice to know what you think? I had a look in John Lewis and Currys today and the one I really like is the 58DX750B I negotiated and managed to get a good deal at JL with a five year guarantee, have a few days to decide I may have to get a different wall hanging kit, but I can exchange my current one at no cost if its not the same

08-05-2016, 17:58	#18
neilybealy Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 142	I've also just got Sky Q and thought exactly the same. A few months ago I went into John Lewis and liked the Sony kd55x85 but the mew models are out now and KD55XD8577SU looks good but is £500 dearer. Also need to look at the Panasonic 58DX750 Decisions decisions

08-05-2016, 19:45	#19
Matt35 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 9,552	Having now got Q I will be looking at getting a 4k TV but I'll be waiting until I see what sky bring out. I'm not sure when that will be. Price range will be around 2k mark and it'll be oled.

08-05-2016, 22:03	#20
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by Matt35 Price range will be around 2k mark and it'll be oled. You should be looking at LG then, as the only company with the courage to actually continue large screen OLED development.

08-05-2016, 22:51	#21
Deacon1972 Guest Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin You should be looking at LG then, as the only company with the courage to actually continue large screen OLED development. Panasonic do OLED too, the screen will be made by LG, the rest of the tech I believe is from Panasonic.

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Now we have sky q what tv for when 4k comes

09-05-2016, 07:03	#22
Stig Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sandy Heath, Beds. UK Posts: 10,385	Quote: Originally Posted by Deacon1972 Panasonic do OLED too, the screen will be made by LG, the rest of the tech I believe is from Panasonic. The Panasonic OLED range is very limited, if fact I can only find one model with a quick search. I've said it before; I was waiting for OLED but LG are the only company doing it. The likes of Panasonic are continuing to improve LED and the latest 4K sets are very good. I recommend a side by side viewing and ask yourself if it's worth the extra money.

09-05-2016, 08:41	#23
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by Deacon1972 Panasonic do OLED too, the screen will be made by LG, the rest of the tech I believe is from Panasonic. Sony do too, but as I said only LG had the courage (and billions!!) to actually get large screen OLED screens working.

09-05-2016, 12:54	#24
Matt35 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 9,552	Something like this but not curved. http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-...24838-pdt.html In a few months time is there gonna be much difference with regards hardware upgrades?

09-05-2016, 15:14	#25
aurichie Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5,100	I think now is not a great time to be buying TV's. At least not until Ultra HD Premium becomes more widespread and affordable. It is going to be the next generation standard, everyone that matters is finally on board, and the vast majority of TV's at the moment fall short. You are currently looking at £2,000-£3,000 for a good Ultra HD Premium TV. So the dust is starting to settle on next generation, but we're not quite there yet.