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Id like to think you have to unlock it if no fingerprint reader
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From the Daily Telegraph:
The Android Pay app doesn't need to be open in order to make the transaction, and payments under £30 can be made without unlocking the phone so long as the screen is on. For amounts higher than £30, the owner must enter their security code, fingerprint or lock pattern. |
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#378 |
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without unlocking the phone so long as the screen is on
What does it mean by the screen being on if it does not mean unlocked? ![]() (my phone can by unlocked with the screen off but not the other way round) |
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What does it mean by the screen being on if it does not mean unlocked?
![]() (my phone can by unlocked with the screen off but not the other way round) |
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What is the difference between waking up the screen and waking up the phone? Does the former just mean the screen lights up with the lockscreen dialogue on it?
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This not unlocking phone for up to 30 quid puts me off. My cards in my wallet live in my pocket. My phone often gets left out. It's far easier to nick my phone off me than my bank card.
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This not unlocking phone for up to 30 quid puts me off. My cards in my wallet live in my pocket. My phone often gets left out. It's far easier to nick my phone off me than my bank card.
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If your phone is lost or stolen you can use the remote wipe feature to remove your cards from Android pay.
This is what the Google support pages says about it. "Lost or stolen phone Whenever your phone is unlocked, it can be used to make purchases with Android Pay. If your phone is lost or stolen, you can find, lock or erase it using Android Device Manager" |
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What is the difference between waking up the screen and waking up the phone? Does the former just mean the screen lights up with the lockscreen dialogue on it?
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This not unlocking phone for up to 30 quid puts me off. My cards in my wallet live in my pocket. My phone often gets left out. It's far easier to nick my phone off me than my bank card.
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Correct!
1) Off when not in use maybe in pocket or bag; 2) Glance screen showing notifications which automatically comes on when removing the phone from pocket or bag or by waving your hand over the camera light sensor; 3) Lock screen which is activated the power button or by a double tap on the screen; 4) Unlocked when you dismiss the lock screen which optionally needs a PIN to be entered if the phone has been locked for more than 30 minutes. |
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I apply equal security to both. Something perhaps you should look at doing too.
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If your phone is lost or stolen you can use the remote wipe feature to remove your cards from Android pay.
This is what the Google support pages says about it. "Lost or stolen phone Whenever your phone is unlocked, it can be used to make purchases with Android Pay. If your phone is lost or stolen, you can find, lock or erase it using Android Device Manager" |
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Same with Android pay. It's limited to £30 without PIN/fingerprint authentication.
All Android phones are the same in this respect. You still have to wake the phone to allow even the £30 purchase. |
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On the iPhone you can't make any payments without your fingerprint. On android you can make payments under £30 without any authentication. I've used it on the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge and it didn't require me to use the fingerprint scanner. I don't think it's very secure.
With the s7 you would have thought that f the security is there, they would use it. |
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On the iPhone you can't make any payments without your fingerprint. On android you can make payments under £30 without any authentication. I've used it on the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge and it didn't require me to use the fingerprint scanner. I don't think it's very secure.
If it's stolen, you get your money back anyway. |
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Yes but what if you don't realise for some time that your phone is gone or it takes you a while to be able to wipe your phone. It's a security risk
No matter what, just like contactless cards, you will get your money back. |
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If it's stolen, you get your money back anyway.
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On the iPhone you can't make any payments without your fingerprint.
All transactions do require authorisation though, be it fingerprint or passcode. |
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A curious definition of what it means to be secure.
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Yes but what if you don't realise for some time that your phone is gone or it takes you a while to be able to wipe your phone. It's a security risk
In this case, losing your phone would be no different to losing your wallet and cards. Also we are assuming that the first thing a thief or someone that finds your phone is going to do is try and use it to purchase something. I'm not sure how likely that scenario is but I guess it's a possibility, again you would be covered by your bank and offered a refund. |
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So i assume you think contactless cards are not secure then?
Personally, I think the additional 'security' of tokenisation/fingerprints etc is a feature that's simply not needed. |
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So i assume you think contactless cards are not secure then?
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I don't. Not compared to the alternative methods of payment.
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Zero times. And as it stands, I never will. The only link between my financial details and my phone are texts from my bank informing me of large debits and credits.
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