Rick, in the comics:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gl97IIPEHV...s1600/Rick.jpg

In the show:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...214-story.html

No, I totally get it. And it may well be a fact that they have said that, but the fact that they did doesn't make it reality. Instead, it's just an their own personal view on the matter and hardly fact. Facts are absolutes, they aren't based on subjectivity.

Lol, I know, I know, I get it.

Anyways, look, I don't want to argue about it. I just don't see how someones personal opinion can be seen as fact, that's all.

I'm not arguing, I just wondered if Versailles' was unfamiliar wit the expression 'the walking dead' as English isn't their first language. It would appear to refer to the zombies - as is clearly the intention - but the expression exists in the real non-zombified world, referring to those whose days are numbered.

Oh ok, no problem.

I don't understand why people are arguing about the title of 'The Walking Dead'.
Just because it's a metaphor for the people still left alive it doesn't mean that the zombies somehow aren't the walking dead.
It's just a nice little touch for the title where it has a double meaning.

Did anyone else notice Dougray Scott lapsing into pure Scottish at the start of the last episode?

The disjointedness is the thing that most puts me off this show, (I quite like nick and the others are all growing on me) - even the zombie fight scenes were badly edited.

OMG it gets even worse.

I hadn't got round to starting the second season yet, and am still not up to date, but watched the first four yesterday, and am really enjoying it. So I'm quite surprised at how negative so many in here are about it?

Terrible, the only good thing that happened was Madison closing the gate.

Yeah, that was pretty bad.

You know the show sucks when the fanboys on the FtWD subreddit are discussing banning negative posts (there are so many of them).

There is hope though - this is the midseason break so hopefully they will take stock and improve the second slew of S2 episodes. They are supposedly renewed for a Season 3 so they will want to try to get the show into some sort of shape.

It could have been so much better, even better than TWD, because it could have been set in a major city with a family and we should still be exploring the take over of the city by the walkers, rather than being on the sea or in a backwards Mexican village.

The family could have been so much better too, without Emo boys being all depressing and daughters in peril on the sea.

Such a wasted opportunity.

I dont get it either, I think its a great little series, nothing like TWD of course, but its not supposed to be, I care more about the characters than I did most of TWD in their series two, I hated most of them,lol

Looking forward to the second half of the series, why do Americans do this? it is so annoying, just show the whole damn series

Each character is crazier than the next

Not to mention a repeat of TWD in some cases.

Daniel talking to his dead wife (see Rick)

Cecilia believing the Walkers will be ok again (see Hershal)

Chris (total psycho) A Shane in the making

Nick, deciding to go and live among the Walkers*



Is Daniel dead I wonder, probably, but I don't think we ever actually saw him start to burn so he could turn up again later.

Was Cecilia in with the other Walkers when Daniel went to burn them? Can't recall seeing her (so someone might have let her out) but as we were seeing things through Daniels eyes what we saw was not total reality.


* I wonder (comic spoiler)

LOL. Yes, it's becoming a common thing on the internet now isn't it?
The attempt to censor criticism because it's like trolling or something. It's even started to happen with trailers for Hollywood films.

I saw the latest episode earlier on and I don't think it went unnoticed in this thread when some of the characters at various points in the script were saying they have to get back to the boat.

I agree. We could have even bumped into one or two earlier versions of characters from TWD such as The Governor or Michonne at an earlier point of their personal development.
There could have been some clever connections made to TWD, for example this group discovering things about the world which Rick and his gang are unaware of in their timeline and have yet to discover.
Having said that Corwin introduces some interesting speculation about one of the characters in the spoiler in his post a couple of posts above this one. So maybe this latest episode is the real start to this series. I guess that patience may pay off eventually. It will have been a bit of a long slog getting there though.

But at the moment they just aren't doing anything with it. Nothing which is worthwhile or adds anything to the fictional universe of TWD.
There's no real story or focus to anchor the narrative to. There was Strand's destination which served as the focus but that fizzled out into a damp squib.
I don't have much issue with the characters, just what the writers are doing with them. For example I really like Daniel as a character. But it looks like they may have killed him off.

The series needs whipping into shape and given a real kick up its arse.

Well in the time line, all of those things happened to the characters of FTWD first its only been a few weeks since the outbreak. a month perhaps if that?

According to the Wikia page, the episodes in the docks with the 'pirates' were around Day 20 since the outbreak.

http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Fe..._Dead_Timeline

So guessing we are only at a month gone at most up to last nights episode.

1.5 series in, and the story has spanned a month at most, and we've still seen and know very little about what has/is happening across the country/world.

I realise they probably don't have a massive budget, but there must be ways they could have conveyed what is happening in the rest of the US/world without needing to see it all?? They aren't even discussing it??!!!

Another episode & another 'safe' community wrecked by our hapless bunch. It's a wonder they haven't sunk the boat yet....oh ..wait... there are still 8 episodes left, watch this space.

It's obviously all down to budget - they don't seem to have a lot of cash. That would explain why so much seems to happen off-screen too and the strange 'jumps' the story takes (like from being on the wrong side of the blockade to the vineyard in Baja, in a few camera cuts).

They need to do a better job of writing around budget constraints and keep the narrative flowing naturally.

Also, they could address the 'rest of the World' situation in a budget-friendly way with news broadcasts (radio and maybe even TV). But they seem to be avoiding that totally and focussing completely upon the crazy adventures of a very small group of people who know and care very little about the bigger picture. That's pretty infuriating.

In the early days of the internet, it looked like it was a good way to get open discussion and people on forums (or rather, Usenet newsgroups at the time) were pretty free-speech minded and willing to debate.

Unfortunately, fast forward a few decades and 'discussion' Forums have typically become a place where the prejudices and beliefs of the very vocal majority (or just, the most vocal) are reinforced, with any discussion about stuff that people don't agree with/like being rapidly shut down.

Fear The Walking Dead 02.08 Trailer

This is clearly a reasonable and accurate point to make. The fact by the way that one character says they are the walking dead, indicates a point of desperation at the time he says it. An aspect of the show is to explore, it seems to me, the degree to which the protagonists have any point to their lives, and whether there is something worth fighting for, and indeed living for. (Rather unfortunately I suspect the show will end in absolute disaster with no redeeming glimmers of hope!)

Mid-season break but I don't think many will be bothered if it never comes back.

As fr the spoiler, yes that was my first thought...but from the trailer it looks like...



I don't get peoples utter hate for the show. It's not great but it's not the steaming pile of crap people make it out to be.

People seem to favour Daniel...but part of me wonders if it's just because he'd progressed to the personalities of those in TWD already. People going on about he's the only one with common sense...but honestly ask yourself; IS it common sense to have completely given up on the world and believing/trusting in people having any sense of decency mere days into what could have been a minor localised disaster for all they knew? (And not an apocalypse...) Not really. He's simply as broken mentally at the beginning of FTWD as some are currently in present TWD.

As for the group... It's becoming more and more clear that this group is heading the opposite way of Rick's group. It wouldn't surprise me if they eventually end up as a enemy group to Rick's multiple seasons from now, and FTWD is all about creating the ultimate story built-up enemy for them.

Also, I don't think Cecilia thought the dead were coming back or could get healed. Just that there was some of their loved ones still trapped in there (which to be honest...there could be. It's not like ANYONE knows for sure) and it's their duty to care for them. It wouldn't surprise me if THIS ties into the spoiler up there, too. Or it just ends up creating a similar type thing, but not exactly the same.