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Old 24-08-2016, 13:21
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Everyone keeps watching it though so whether it is liked is completely irrelevant when it gets the viewers.
The vast bulk of the audience are going to be 'The Walking Dead' fans who are hoping that it gets better, but slowly losing interest.
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Old 24-08-2016, 14:01
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The vast bulk of the audience are going to be 'The Walking Dead' fans who are hoping that it gets better, but slowly losing interest.
That is precisely why amc commisioned it, grab the audience of TWD and turn the show into another money-spinner. Unfortunately they didn't get any decent writers and the characters are bland and uninteresting. It worked somewhat for 'Better Call Saul' (because of the known characters), but IMO not for this show.
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Old 25-08-2016, 10:18
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Bit of a mixed episode and probably not the sort of slow-paced story that you want to open the second half of a season with.

On the one hand it was interesting to see how far Nick would go to survive and they did a good job of showing him being tough and resourceful, but the whole thing revolved around a series of bad/illogical decisions from him, some very contrived situations and then a bunch of 'deus ex machina' that kept saving his skin when he should have been long dead many times over.

Also, in keeping with the show's style of disjointed narrative the whole start of the episode felt weird as it didn't flow on from the last one. I thought I'd missed the restart of the season by a week, for the first few minutes.

I have to say, if not for the 'The Walking Dead' connection I'd probably have given up on this by now.
Yeah agree re Nick, he is VERY lucky

Still amazed how easily people get killed of even with guns, maybe just too cocky!

I did like this episode a lot more (even though i've quite liked the whole series) its like they had brought in new writers/director behind the scenes

Interested to see where the rest of the season goes
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Old 25-08-2016, 20:13
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I thought it was a bit of a slow episode for a mid season premiere. It had its good parts, but the fact it focused solely on one character made me feel a bit bored.

Why were those guys so desperate to kill a fleeing human? Wasting all that ammo seemed stupid.
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Old 26-08-2016, 09:16
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i liked that episode, Nick is perhaps the only half-decent character in it so it made sense to focus on him. Some of the 'set pieces' were as ridiculous as always, its amazing how people with automatic weapons get eaten when all they have to do is take a couple of steps back and fire...

hopefully the rest of the season will focus more on Nick than the tedious family-sagas of the other characters, not sure I'm looking forward to an episode solely about MiserableChris or Annoying`TeenageDaughter and her quest for a boyfriend during the zombie apocalypse
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Old 29-08-2016, 22:24
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Madison and Strand are so dumb,lol first they risk dehydration by drinking booze then they make so much noise that a massive herd approach them.
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Old 30-08-2016, 21:44
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How were the Walkers that fell from the Hotel roof and balconies so nimble on their feet after falling from that height !
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Old 30-08-2016, 22:30
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Danay Garcia still looks hot, had the hots for her on prison break glad she's made a comeback.

Even though I Can't believe the stupidity of some of the characters I think the pacing is a lot better.....have to say I'm more interested in what's happening with Nick than the others
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Old 31-08-2016, 02:27
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Second episode is better than the first but they are both just boring, not episodes i could every re watch.
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Old 31-08-2016, 03:05
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Second episode is better than the first but they are both just boring, not episodes i could every re watch.
Too true, the only thing I liked was the Walkers falling off the hotel balcony.

The main thing that is spoiling this season is the Mexican religious stuff. And all the talking in Mexican.
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Old 31-08-2016, 08:07
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How were the Walkers that fell from the Hotel roof and balconies so nimble on their feet after falling from that height !
This is one of the biggest fallicies with the whole concept of the zombies in this universe - if a Zombie falls from such a great height they may not feel pain but they are still going break legs/ankles/ligaments etc. It's the laws of physics and biomechanics that seem to be completed ignored.
Danay Garcia still looks hot, had the hots for her on prison break glad she's made a comeback.

Even though I Can't believe the stupidity of some of the characters I think the pacing is a lot better.....have to say I'm more interested in what's happening with Nick than the others
Agreed - do you know if she's in the PB sequel?
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Old 31-08-2016, 18:16
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This is one of the biggest fallicies with the whole concept of the zombies in this universe - if a Zombie falls from such a great height they may not feel pain but they are still going break legs/ankles/ligaments etc. It's the laws of physics and biomechanics that seem to be completed ignored.

Agreed - do you know if she's in the PB sequel?
I certainly hope so, if they can bring Michael.back from the dead surely there's space to bring her in as Lincolns love interest
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Old 05-09-2016, 11:38
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I'm not arguing, I just wondered if Versailles' was unfamiliar wit the expression 'the walking dead' as English isn't their first language. It would appear to refer to the zombies - as is clearly the intention - but the expression exists in the real non-zombified world, referring to those whose days are numbered.

I know what it means, I just choose to be so pragmatic as to see that someone in this show are indeed dead and are indeed walking.
And they are the walkers.
What are the walkers if not both dead and still walking?

Rick and the others may feel like they are dead, but they are not.

But again, I know the creators of the series claim that "walking dead" was always meant to be the living. I just dont believe them
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Old 05-09-2016, 12:59
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It's not the series creators, it's the guy who wrote the comics who said it always refers to the people, in fact it gets said quite early in the comics. I don't understand why you are so against something that is stated as fact.
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Old 05-09-2016, 13:58
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The vast bulk of the audience are going to be 'The Walking Dead' fans who are hoping that it gets better, but slowly losing interest.
Have to say, I'm in the group.... started watching it, as I thought we were going to see a deeper extent of societies breakdown and how people dealt with the situation of the dead returning to life.

This series (1 and so far 2) has cut far to many corners in its storytelling, and skipped so much that would have been better to see, than the weekly soap opera of the main characters.

If you look at the timeline, we are supposedly still within the first month of the initial outbreak!! Yet the situations our 'heroes' find themselves in are little different to those in the main TWD series... ie everyone out for themselves, and no-one is questioning how or why dead people are returning to life and trying to eat the living.

http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Fe..._Dead_Timeline

The episodes feature 1 or 2 decent set pieces, but overall, its just the usual characters doing stupid things, putting themselves in unnecessary peril.
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Old 05-09-2016, 21:52
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Well, whilst I love The Walking Dead, I really have had enough of trying to like and enjoy Fear The Walking Dead.

It has such a flat feel to it and I'm less than impressed with some of the acting. The scenes at the end of the last episode in the hotel bar with the walkers getting in for instance was very poor.

I don't even think the walkers are as good as the ones in the original series either. This show just seems like a poor relation to the far superior Walking Dead.

I really can't be bothered with it and am going to wait for The Walking Dead to return in not that many more weeks. At least I know that I'll enjoy that.
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Old 05-09-2016, 22:13
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I don't understand why the series has gone in this direction. There was so much potential to tell this story in a new way - the start of the apocalypse- but they've just rushed through and skipped it all. What a complete waste. All we are now left with is pretty much a sub par version of season 1 of TWD.
Aside from the location, not much else is different in terms of plot. I don't know where they go from here to sustain the series? We already have the main group split (yawn at them all coming back together at the end of the season). New people are already out for themselves. They are scrambling to find food, shelter and constantly on the move....it's no different from the main themes addressed in the main series.

Given that we are meant to only be a month into this (in my head they should still be in LA, at home with friends/neighbours/ military defences) they have proven themselves to be far more intelligent than Rick's group. I mean, they learnt rapidly that you have to crush the brain to kill the walkers, they know anyone who dies comes back, and even that if you cover yourself in walker blood you get ignored....

Such a shame.
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Old 05-09-2016, 22:32
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Cant disagree with anyone. Exasperating is about the nicest thing i can say about it.
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Old 19-09-2016, 21:34
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So after watching last nights episode - predictions for the rest of the season.

Not seen any spoilers (not even the next time teaser) All just speculation.


Nick's compound will get overrun by the Supermarket Gang.
During this the Pharmacist finally turns into a Walker (why he was immune so long doesn't get explained).
Nick will of course survive and will be told by Hector's (probably dying) brother that his Mother was looking for him.
Nick's girlfriend might survive but will most likely be killed by the turned Pharmacist.

Nick will make it to the Hotel by the end of the season.


Travis makes it to the hotel by the next episode.

We don't see Travis' son (blanking on his name) again this season apart from a quick flashback to them parting. He may turn up next season.

Things go wrong at the Hotel. Either her from Desperate Housewives escapes and goes on a killing spree or the Supermarket gang locate it and attack.

Whatever happens the season ends with the usual suspects (minus the odd one) on the road again and heading back to the U.S.

I'm guessing Ophelia will survive her trip to Santa Fe and maybe even find her ex boyfriend alive as otherwise they might just have well left her fate mysterious.
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Old 19-09-2016, 23:25
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So after watching last nights episode - predictions for the rest of the season.


Nick's compound will get overrun by the Supermarket Gang.
During this the Pharmacist finally turns into a Walker (why he was immune so long doesn't get explained).
Nick will of course survive and will be told by Hector's (probably dying) brother that his Mother was looking for him.
Nick's girlfriend might survive but will most likely be killed by the turned Pharmacist.

Nick will make it to the Hotel by the end of the season.
Nick is indestructible. I imagine he'll be standing there in the middle of the compound with his hands on his hips and covered in walker gunge while some oxycontin-addled bandito sprays machine gun fire all around him and completely misses until his bullets run out.

Meanwhile Mr Pharmacist will have turned and will be taking nice big chunks out of everyone except Nick, of course, because Nick is wearing zombie camouflage and because Nick is indestructible.

And, yes, Nick will probably head for the hotel because the big red neon sign said "Hi Nick it's your Mom" and Travis will be heading that way for the same reason, although he might have trouble persuading Chris since he has now decided that going psycho is the appropriate way to deal with his dead mummy issues. Still, at least Madison will be back with her boy and that will have been well worth the risk of alerting every crazed gun-toting gang within a 20 mile radius to the only place in Baja with electricity. And ice cubes.
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Old 20-09-2016, 08:35
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Nick is indestructible. I imagine he'll be standing there in the middle of the compound with his hands on his hips and covered in walker gunge while some oxycontin-addled bandito sprays machine gun fire all around him and completely misses until his bullets run out.
Maybe he should join The A-Team!
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Old 21-09-2016, 12:41
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How come water is so hard to find but ice cubes are freely available? Does the hotel have its own water making machine too?
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Old 21-09-2016, 13:00
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How come water is so hard to find but ice cubes are freely available? Does the hotel have its own water making machine too?
Has it been said the hotel is short on water, baring in mind how many bottles of water they probably had on site for the guests, I doubt they are that short.

Obviously the other places, like where Nick is will be short of water, but i doubt the hotel would be, just like the supermarket isn't.
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Old 21-09-2016, 17:07
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How come water is so hard to find but ice cubes are freely available? Does the hotel have its own water making machine too?
I think it is because the hotel has power and can freeze the water they do have, where as the power is off everywhere else so they can't freeze anything even if they did have water.
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Old 21-09-2016, 18:21
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How come water is so hard to find but ice cubes are freely available? Does the hotel have its own water making machine too?
No but it would have large water tanks that would still be mostly full with only a few people living there.

We saw someone having a shower in the hotel a couple of weeks back so obviously the plumbing still works.
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