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Music Industry is in a GOD AWFUL STATE
Do you know I'm sick of the likes of
Kaye, Beyonce, Rihanna, Minaj etc running the music industry! It can't be on merit. People can't possibly like any of their recent work. RGIHT NOW is the worst period I've ever known in music history. I legitimatley dislike everything in the charts right now. It strikes me that this music is popular with a certain section of society who believe they're cool. And then everyone else aspires to be cool and follows suit. Music lately has no melody, no build or chorus, no anthems... Its just the same 3 words repeated over and over and over, laid on a drum and base track which the artist mimes to and writes about on stage sexually. Theres nothing to sing along to anymore. Its all hideous rap and god awful 'half spoken, half singing LYRICS' Not that you can them lyrics. |
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The record comanies used to act like benevolent dictators.
Artists have more freedom now but the lack of discipline produces diminishing returns. |
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The music industry like most others, has always been driven by money.
Each generation, "gets the quality of the music it deserves." If people didn't buy it then they wouldn't produce it. As I type this I'm listening to Jeri Southern from the fifties. A decade that had everything, from big bands, ballad singers, jazz, pop and rock n' roll. I've been letting it run, there's 25 tracks. Like many of her contemporaries, she had a distinctive and easily recognisable voice. Quite relaxing. . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP90...8ydTDe&index=1 |
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Do you know I'm sick of the likes of
Kaye, Beyonce, Rihanna, Minaj etc running the music industry! It can't be on merit. People can't possibly like any of their recent work. RGIHT NOW is the worst period I've ever known in music history. I legitimatley dislike everything in the charts right now. It strikes me that this music is popular with a certain section of society who believe they're cool. And then everyone else aspires to be cool and follows suit. Music lately has no melody, no build or chorus, no anthems... Its just the same 3 words repeated over and over and over, laid on a drum and base track which the artist mimes to and writes about on stage sexually. Theres nothing to sing along to anymore. Its all hideous rap and god awful 'half spoken, half singing LYRICS' Not that you can them lyrics. |
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I think most of the top 40 is in a god awful state. But then there is far more to the music industry than just the top 40.
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OP those artists you listed are actually four of those in music right now who actually push boundaries and create music.
What I'm sick of, is dance remixers milking classic songs! (Fast Car, The Boy Is Mine, Always Be My Baby). |
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OP those artists you listed are actually four of those in music right now who actually push boundaries and create music.
What I'm sick of, is dance remixers milking classic songs! (Fast Car, The Boy Is Mine, Always Be My Baby). |
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I think most of the top 40 is in a god awful state. But then there is far more to the music industry than just the top 40.
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Do you know I'm sick of the likes of
Kaye, Beyonce, Rihanna, Minaj etc running the music industry! It can't be on merit. People can't possibly like any of their recent work. RGIHT NOW is the worst period I've ever known in music history. I legitimatley dislike everything in the charts right now. It strikes me that this music is popular with a certain section of society who believe they're cool. And then everyone else aspires to be cool and follows suit. Music lately has no melody, no build or chorus, no anthems... Its just the same 3 words repeated over and over and over, laid on a drum and base track which the artist mimes to and writes about on stage sexually. Theres nothing to sing along to anymore. Its all hideous rap and god awful 'half spoken, half singing LYRICS' Not that you can them lyrics. |
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Have you listened to any of their recent albums yourself OP? Kanye, Beyonce, Rihanna etc have all taken risks more than most.
I'm personally not a fan of the current UK chart music trends/taste. Generic dirge like the current #1 '7 years' is exactly the sort of thing the radio stations and therefore the public seem to gravitate towards. But then again you can always explore outside of the charts for something you like or even within it. There is still some great music in the album charts for example as someone said. |
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same old argument all over again...
are there music radio stations outside london and maybe a few other cities where 'cool' music can be heard in the daytime whilst driving?.. see, ive always listened to radio 1, its on now in my van, this was ok until fairly recently because ive always found something to like in mainstream. but those suggesting to 'look elsewhere', is this actually possible in my situation? tbh i find 'other radio stations' are actually worse then r1 , or at least no better. ps - i must stress that i listen to modern music more to score points at pop music quizes then because i like it. |
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Depends what you call the Top 40? The Top 40 album chart is full of lots of great fantastic music.
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The top 40 singles chart. Not that I have an issue with anyone liking anything from it. Everyone has their own tastes, and the current number one, 7 Years by Lukas Graham, is one of the best songs I have heard in a long time.
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OP those artists you listed are actually four of those in music right now who actually push boundaries and create music.
What I'm sick of, is dance remixers milking classic songs! (Fast Car, The Boy Is Mine, Always Be My Baby). I don't want boundaries pushed if it means we get repetitive rap/r and b dirge. No melody, no Harmony, hardly any lyrics. Its absolutely woeful |
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Music lately has no melody, no build or chorus, no anthems...
We all have different tastes and that's fine but I can't believe how tuneless and samey everything is right now and that people like it. |
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This is always the case with new music/styles, in each generation. Jazz was initially deemed terrible sounding, nonsensical and awful. Rock N Roll was initially the devil's music and harsh on the ears. Hip hop was categorised the same in its early days - now people are like 'I only like old school hip hop' etc.
For music to continue and survive the boundaries have to be pushed and we have to accept that new genres are going to enter the mainstream. You have the luxury now of being able to access the entire back catalogue of music from the last 100 years and an array of different genres. Why concern yourself with the charts? |
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Why concern yourself with the charts?
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For me, I like discovering new music and following the career paths of my favourite artists. The charts is the easiest way to do that.
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I think it's better than it was in the mid 00s, all those fake indie posh boy bands dominating.
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Also, are we talking about charts or what's just in the mainstream zeitgeist because both Kanye and Beyoncé's latest offerings aren't available for purchase and therefore not on the charts anyway.
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There are such huge back catalogues available on Spotify and Apple which listeners could spend years exploring. It is also true that alternative and risky artists have a direct connection with their potential audience via YouTube or Vevo. These two taken together means that the big music companies are going to play it safer with the artists they wish to invest in and promote.
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What I find hard to understand is the need people have to have their own tastes/likes validated constantly by it being popular. Surely the charts only exist for this reason. Just because you don't 'get', 'like' or understand a genre of music doesn't mean you have to attack it in favour of your own tastes. Just accept that it's not for you, it's not to your taste and then go and find something that is - there is plenty of musical choice nowadays anyway.
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What I find hard to understand is the need people have to have their own tastes/likes validated constantly by it being popular. Surely the charts only exist for this reason. Just because you don't 'get', 'like' or understand a genre of music doesn't mean you have to attack it in favour of your own tastes. Just accept that it's not for you, it's not to your taste and then go and find something that is - there is plenty of musical choice nowadays anyway.
I think older people like myself are mature and experienced enough to be able to discern the difference between styles of music we dont like but can see its validity, and unimaginative bland corporate generic crap. |
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Apparently it's the Illuminati's fault.
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Music will always be subjective. I hear a song these days, think "what is this crap?" then see groups of teenagers going on as if it's a musical revolution.
Then I think back to 1995, aged 14 and Outhere Brothers were all the rage for about 10 months. I reckon had I been in my mid 30s in 1995, I would've hated Outhere Brothers. It's more than just music. It's a song that defines a moment in your life, like a social experience in the same way how me and my mates went crazy over songs like Don't Stop (Wiggle, Wiggle) in the mid 90s - and I'm referring to the original version, not the swear free radio edit. ![]() It goes in circles. Those teenagers trying too hard to be sexy in the club flirting to Work by Rihanna will get to their late 30s/early 40s and shriek in horror when their teenage kids are into their generations Work/Don't Stop (Wiggle Wiggle) etc.. It just goes round in circles. Sex sells music, and it always will. There is plenty of great songs around, you just need to dig deep to find them but they're there.
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