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Old 01-03-2016, 12:57
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Do you know I'm sick of the likes of

Kaye, Beyonce, Rihanna, Minaj etc running the music industry!

It can't be on merit.

People can't possibly like any of their recent work.

RGIHT NOW is the worst period I've ever known in music history. I legitimatley dislike everything in the charts right now.

It strikes me that this music is popular with a certain section of society who believe they're cool.

And then everyone else aspires to be cool and follows suit.

Music lately has no melody, no build or chorus, no anthems...

Its just the same 3 words repeated over and over and over, laid on a drum and base track which the artist mimes to and writes about on stage sexually.

Theres nothing to sing along to anymore. Its all hideous rap and god awful 'half spoken, half singing LYRICS'

Not that you can them lyrics.
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Old 01-03-2016, 13:02
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The record comanies used to act like benevolent dictators.

Artists have more freedom now but the lack of discipline produces diminishing returns.
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Old 01-03-2016, 13:14
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The music industry like most others, has always been driven by money.

Each generation, "gets the quality of the music it deserves."

If people didn't buy it then they wouldn't produce it.

As I type this I'm listening to Jeri Southern from the fifties. A decade that had everything, from big bands, ballad singers, jazz, pop and rock n' roll.

I've been letting it run, there's 25 tracks. Like many of her contemporaries, she had a distinctive and easily recognisable voice. Quite relaxing. .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP90...8ydTDe&index=1
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Old 01-03-2016, 13:29
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Do you know I'm sick of the likes of

Kaye, Beyonce, Rihanna, Minaj etc running the music industry!

It can't be on merit.

People can't possibly like any of their recent work.

RGIHT NOW is the worst period I've ever known in music history. I legitimatley dislike everything in the charts right now.

It strikes me that this music is popular with a certain section of society who believe they're cool.

And then everyone else aspires to be cool and follows suit.

Music lately has no melody, no build or chorus, no anthems...

Its just the same 3 words repeated over and over and over, laid on a drum and base track which the artist mimes to and writes about on stage sexually.

Theres nothing to sing along to anymore. Its all hideous rap and god awful 'half spoken, half singing LYRICS'

Not that you can them lyrics.
the obvious solution would be to not listen to the charts and seek music you like. there are plenty of ways of finding new music based on music you do like. such as all music and spotify, tidal, youtube, etc
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Old 01-03-2016, 13:57
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I think most of the top 40 is in a god awful state. But then there is far more to the music industry than just the top 40.
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Old 01-03-2016, 14:39
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OP those artists you listed are actually four of those in music right now who actually push boundaries and create music.

What I'm sick of, is dance remixers milking classic songs! (Fast Car, The Boy Is Mine, Always Be My Baby).
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Old 01-03-2016, 14:47
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OP those artists you listed are actually four of those in music right now who actually push boundaries and create music.

What I'm sick of, is dance remixers milking classic songs! (Fast Car, The Boy Is Mine, Always Be My Baby).
I cant stand that as well..like david guetta - shot me down.
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Old 01-03-2016, 14:48
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I think most of the top 40 is in a god awful state. But then there is far more to the music industry than just the top 40.
Depends what you call the Top 40? The Top 40 album chart is full of lots of great fantastic music.
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Old 01-03-2016, 14:49
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Do you know I'm sick of the likes of

Kaye, Beyonce, Rihanna, Minaj etc running the music industry!

It can't be on merit.

People can't possibly like any of their recent work.

RGIHT NOW is the worst period I've ever known in music history. I legitimatley dislike everything in the charts right now.

It strikes me that this music is popular with a certain section of society who believe they're cool.

And then everyone else aspires to be cool and follows suit.

Music lately has no melody, no build or chorus, no anthems...

Its just the same 3 words repeated over and over and over, laid on a drum and base track which the artist mimes to and writes about on stage sexually.

Theres nothing to sing along to anymore. Its all hideous rap and god awful 'half spoken, half singing LYRICS'

Not that you can them lyrics.
Why can't i 'possibly like any of the recent work' of these artists?
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Old 01-03-2016, 15:10
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Have you listened to any of their recent albums yourself OP? Kanye, Beyonce, Rihanna etc have all taken risks more than most.

I'm personally not a fan of the current UK chart music trends/taste. Generic dirge like the current #1 '7 years' is exactly the sort of thing the radio stations and therefore the public seem to gravitate towards. But then again you can always explore outside of the charts for something you like or even within it. There is still some great music in the album charts for example as someone said.
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Old 01-03-2016, 15:40
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same old argument all over again...

are there music radio stations outside london and maybe a few other cities where 'cool' music can be heard in the daytime whilst driving?..

see, ive always listened to radio 1, its on now in my van, this was ok until fairly recently because ive always found something to like in mainstream. but those suggesting to 'look elsewhere', is this actually possible in my situation? tbh i find 'other radio stations' are actually worse then r1 , or at least no better.

ps - i must stress that i listen to modern music more to score points at pop music quizes then because i like it.
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Old 01-03-2016, 16:03
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Depends what you call the Top 40? The Top 40 album chart is full of lots of great fantastic music.
The top 40 singles chart. Not that I have an issue with anyone liking anything from it. Everyone has their own tastes, and the current number one, 7 Years by Lukas Graham, is one of the best songs I have heard in a long time.
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Old 01-03-2016, 16:23
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The top 40 singles chart. Not that I have an issue with anyone liking anything from it. Everyone has their own tastes, and the current number one, 7 Years by Lukas Graham, is one of the best songs I have heard in a long time.
The tune is ok but the lyrics just want to make me vomit especially the way it implies that your life us nearly over at 60
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Old 01-03-2016, 16:30
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OP those artists you listed are actually four of those in music right now who actually push boundaries and create music.

What I'm sick of, is dance remixers milking classic songs! (Fast Car, The Boy Is Mine, Always Be My Baby).
What does that even mean? Push boundaries?

I don't want boundaries pushed if it means we get repetitive rap/r and b dirge. No melody, no Harmony, hardly any lyrics.

Its absolutely woeful
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Old 01-03-2016, 17:05
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Music lately has no melody, no build or chorus, no anthems...
This is my own biggest problem with mainstream music right now. I'm not a snob. I don't snub the charts just because or think everything vintage is automatically superior. Every decade has their fair share of tat. However I don't think I've ever found the majority of mainstream releases to be as bad as I do at this point in time. I'm only 32 but feel completely alienated from pop music right now and have begun to ignore what's going on out there completely. I have no idea who is number one and even artists I like have been disappointing me lately.

We all have different tastes and that's fine but I can't believe how tuneless and samey everything is right now and that people like it.
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Old 01-03-2016, 17:19
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This is always the case with new music/styles, in each generation. Jazz was initially deemed terrible sounding, nonsensical and awful. Rock N Roll was initially the devil's music and harsh on the ears. Hip hop was categorised the same in its early days - now people are like 'I only like old school hip hop' etc.

For music to continue and survive the boundaries have to be pushed and we have to accept that new genres are going to enter the mainstream. You have the luxury now of being able to access the entire back catalogue of music from the last 100 years and an array of different genres. Why concern yourself with the charts?
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Old 01-03-2016, 17:25
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Why concern yourself with the charts?
For me, I like discovering new music and following the career paths of my favourite artists. The charts is the easiest way to do that.
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Old 01-03-2016, 17:36
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For me, I like discovering new music and following the career paths of my favourite artists. The charts is the easiest way to do that.
I agree it's the easiest but it's not the only way to do this. The charts just represent what's popular, your taste is not currently popular if it's not reflected in the charts. I have to say of the artists listed I like a couple of Kanye's tracks, love Beyonce's, I like a few Rihanna songs but am not a fan of her as an artist, and I'm not bothered by Nicki Minaj. But there's so many other artists you can find online, if you subscribe to Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal or whatever, you can find new artists you like and follow their careers/listen to their music. The landscape of music has changed now. You can have a number 1 and not be able to sell out a tour. You can be an indie artist who doesn't chart but has a very strong loyal following. It's not the same as it was even a few years ago. The charts have never really represented quality anyway, plenty of the biggest songs weren't loved when they were initially on the charts - nostalgia is what helped them to become the standard down the line.
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Old 01-03-2016, 17:42
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I think it's better than it was in the mid 00s, all those fake indie posh boy bands dominating.
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Old 01-03-2016, 17:45
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Also, are we talking about charts or what's just in the mainstream zeitgeist because both Kanye and Beyoncé's latest offerings aren't available for purchase and therefore not on the charts anyway.
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Old 01-03-2016, 17:59
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There are such huge back catalogues available on Spotify and Apple which listeners could spend years exploring. It is also true that alternative and risky artists have a direct connection with their potential audience via YouTube or Vevo. These two taken together means that the big music companies are going to play it safer with the artists they wish to invest in and promote.
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Old 01-03-2016, 18:03
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What I find hard to understand is the need people have to have their own tastes/likes validated constantly by it being popular. Surely the charts only exist for this reason. Just because you don't 'get', 'like' or understand a genre of music doesn't mean you have to attack it in favour of your own tastes. Just accept that it's not for you, it's not to your taste and then go and find something that is - there is plenty of musical choice nowadays anyway.
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Old 01-03-2016, 18:35
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What I find hard to understand is the need people have to have their own tastes/likes validated constantly by it being popular. Surely the charts only exist for this reason. Just because you don't 'get', 'like' or understand a genre of music doesn't mean you have to attack it in favour of your own tastes. Just accept that it's not for you, it's not to your taste and then go and find something that is - there is plenty of musical choice nowadays anyway.
Its not like that

I think older people like myself are mature and experienced enough to be able to discern the difference between styles of music we dont like but can see its validity, and unimaginative bland corporate generic crap.
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Old 01-03-2016, 18:45
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Apparently it's the Illuminati's fault.
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Old 01-03-2016, 19:19
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Music will always be subjective. I hear a song these days, think "what is this crap?" then see groups of teenagers going on as if it's a musical revolution.

Then I think back to 1995, aged 14 and Outhere Brothers were all the rage for about 10 months. I reckon had I been in my mid 30s in 1995, I would've hated Outhere Brothers. It's more than just music. It's a song that defines a moment in your life, like a social experience in the same way how me and my mates went crazy over songs like Don't Stop (Wiggle, Wiggle) in the mid 90s - and I'm referring to the original version, not the swear free radio edit.

It goes in circles. Those teenagers trying too hard to be sexy in the club flirting to Work by Rihanna will get to their late 30s/early 40s and shriek in horror when their teenage kids are into their generations Work/Don't Stop (Wiggle Wiggle) etc..

It just goes round in circles. Sex sells music, and it always will.

There is plenty of great songs around, you just need to dig deep to find them but they're there.
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