Given that there is no need for a gap now, as episodes can be sent online, don't see any reason why any channel shouldn't broadcast acquired shows at the same time as broadcast in country of origin.
Home and Away's popularity over the years
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Originally Posted by MelSingleton:
“According to this news item from January 2011, programs on the digital multichannels (like Neighbours) do not count towards the quotas: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/...109-19jqp.html
I think Neighbours survives because its many international sales add up to cover the production cost. Though less popular than it once was, it has tightened its production model to a cheaper one (fewer location shoots, two cameras not three, smaller crew, etc.)
Soaps like Home and Away and Neighbours (when it was Ten) do help channels with their quotas as they account for many hours of drama each year in one production, and are relatively cheap. Commercial channels do like cheap shows and expensive productions become less attractive. Ten axed the popular but expensive Offspring in 2014, partly because under local content funding rules, once it surpassed 65 episodes it no longer qualified for a Screen Australia rebate, making it 20% more expensive. http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2...-the-last-time
However it turns out channels do also love their high ratings, their awards, and the prestige that comes with a well-regarded program with a slick image - even it that comes with a price. Ten reinstated Offspring for another season in 2016.”
“According to this news item from January 2011, programs on the digital multichannels (like Neighbours) do not count towards the quotas: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/...109-19jqp.html
I think Neighbours survives because its many international sales add up to cover the production cost. Though less popular than it once was, it has tightened its production model to a cheaper one (fewer location shoots, two cameras not three, smaller crew, etc.)
Soaps like Home and Away and Neighbours (when it was Ten) do help channels with their quotas as they account for many hours of drama each year in one production, and are relatively cheap. Commercial channels do like cheap shows and expensive productions become less attractive. Ten axed the popular but expensive Offspring in 2014, partly because under local content funding rules, once it surpassed 65 episodes it no longer qualified for a Screen Australia rebate, making it 20% more expensive. http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2...-the-last-time
However it turns out channels do also love their high ratings, their awards, and the prestige that comes with a well-regarded program with a slick image - even it that comes with a price. Ten reinstated Offspring for another season in 2016.”
That was true when Neighbours originally moved in 2011, but those rules have since
been amended.
Ten had to keep police drama 'Rush' in 2011 despite low ratings the previous year, because they needed it for their quota points. In 2012, they argued that dramas on digital networks should be included as part of the qupta. Some people were against it because they argued that it would result in the networks producing dirt cheap dramas and then burning them off on the digital channels instead of more mainstream but costly dramas for a mass audience. So they reached a compromise in which drama on digital networks would count towards the quota, but it would be of lower value in qupta points than scripted programming on the main channel. So networks would be rewarded for investing in scripted programming on the multichannels, but would still require some on tha main channel to meet the required number of quota points.
I used to watch both Aussie soaps religiously and found it interesting that when one was up in quality the other would be down - never would they both be consistently good or bad.
Neighbours certainly hit rock bottom 09-12 but pulled itself up and has been good ever since. Meanwhile H&A started to get really bad in 2012 and hasn't recovered yet. I wonder of it will ever improve whereas Neighbours seems to be solid.
Is there a place to see ratings from the 90s year by year? I am curious about that.
Neighbours certainly hit rock bottom 09-12 but pulled itself up and has been good ever since. Meanwhile H&A started to get really bad in 2012 and hasn't recovered yet. I wonder of it will ever improve whereas Neighbours seems to be solid.
Is there a place to see ratings from the 90s year by year? I am curious about that.
Home and Away is still popular in Australia but I wish it didn't become a teen soap. The majority of storylines are about romance/love triangles and cancer storylines. I have stopped watching it religiously and Lucy Addario needs to step down as executive producer. She has been there for more than 4 years.
Home and away has strayed too far from its roots it used to be about families and community with some really fantastic characters. Now it's just a bunch of young attractive people having affairs and behaving like gangsters. I can't watch it anymore because I can't differentiate who is who. Everybody looks the same and has the same (or should that be lack of) personality. The only people with any kind of individuality are Alf, Roo, Irene, John and Marilyn and they barely ever feature.
Originally Posted by TORPIDO 1:
“In Ireland it's also helps its on the country's premier TV channel rte one which is like bbc one the nations favourite channel and not the 5th channel like in the uk”
“In Ireland it's also helps its on the country's premier TV channel rte one which is like bbc one the nations favourite channel and not the 5th channel like in the uk”
I've often wondered why ITV axed Home and away. I thought it had decent ratings back in the nineties.
Originally Posted by MrAndrew:
“They didn't axe it, Channel 5 just offered to pay more for the show, so it went to them
”
“They didn't axe it, Channel 5 just offered to pay more for the show, so it went to them
”
Technically ITV did axe the show, but only after Channel 5 bought the rights to future episodes. I've always suspected Sally's wedding and the return of many former characters was intended as a fitting farewell/series end. But ITV stopped showing the series before they had shown all of their episodes and it literally cut off mid-storyline.
They take the shows of air in Oz as its so hot no one watches tele lol. We have caught up so channel 5 have nothing to broadcast if they havent made any! They are not like eastenders they have seasons.
Ratings will be lower than ever before because online people watchign live count. Recorded doesnt. Most people record.
Eastenders/coronation street used to be at 16-18 million when we had vcrs and were forced to watch it on a set time. Plus there is demand now too.
Ratings will be lower than ever before because online people watchign live count. Recorded doesnt. Most people record.
Eastenders/coronation street used to be at 16-18 million when we had vcrs and were forced to watch it on a set time. Plus there is demand now too.
Originally Posted by Andyland:
“Technically ITV did axe the show, but only after Channel 5 bought the rights to future episodes. I've always suspected Sally's wedding and the return of many former characters was intended as a fitting farewell/series end. But ITV stopped showing the series before they had shown all of their episodes and it literally cut off mid-storyline.”
“Technically ITV did axe the show, but only after Channel 5 bought the rights to future episodes. I've always suspected Sally's wedding and the return of many former characters was intended as a fitting farewell/series end. But ITV stopped showing the series before they had shown all of their episodes and it literally cut off mid-storyline.”
So ITV had the rights to some episodes and chose not to broadcast them. Wonder why that was?
Originally Posted by Good_boys:
“So ITV had the rights to some episodes and chose not to broadcast them. Wonder why that was?”
“So ITV had the rights to some episodes and chose not to broadcast them. Wonder why that was?”
Probably because it prevented 5 from starting to show the soap, forcing it to go off air for a year. I guess ITV knew this would dent its viewership.
Originally Posted by Edward Skylover:
“Probably because it prevented 5 from starting to show the soap, forcing it to go off air for a year. I guess ITV knew this would dent its viewership.”
“Probably because it prevented 5 from starting to show the soap, forcing it to go off air for a year. I guess ITV knew this would dent its viewership.”
It was nowhere near a year's worth of episode. The reason for the long break was a clause in ITV's contract which prevented another broadcaster from showing the series for 12 months after ITV's contract ended. IIRC ITV's last episode was shown in May 2000 and Channel 5 started in July 2001.
It affected the show in Ireland too and was off air for a year there as well and RTE had to go to court to get it back on air. When it did come back, Sally had just returned from
Ireland fiancé in tow, so it was nice Ireland was mentioned after the long hiatus!
Ireland fiancé in tow, so it was nice Ireland was mentioned after the long hiatus!
Originally Posted by BadRomance:
“It affected the show in Ireland too and was off air for a year there as well and RTE had to go to court to get it back on air. When it did come back, Sally had just returned from
Ireland fiancé in tow, so it was nice Ireland was mentioned after the long hiatus!”
“It affected the show in Ireland too and was off air for a year there as well and RTE had to go to court to get it back on air. When it did come back, Sally had just returned from
Ireland fiancé in tow, so it was nice Ireland was mentioned after the long hiatus!”
I don't remember that at all
Home and Away is currently experiencing some of its lowest ever ratings in Australia, the show has rated around 650,000 in the overnights this week!
What baffles me about H & A is that 29 years in it still fails to promote LGBT characters- apparently the network that the show is on is very Conservative and while I appreciate that coastal NSW is probably very white I very much doubt there is nobody living there who classes themselves as LGBT.
Am i right in thinking that Home and Away is now the longest running Australian drama on a main Aus channel?
Originally Posted by inverness1967:
“Am i right in thinking that Home and Away is now the longest running Australian drama on a main Aus channel?”
“Am i right in thinking that Home and Away is now the longest running Australian drama on a main Aus channel?”
Yes. Australian networks aren't really interest in long running dramas any longer. It's all about stripped across the week reality tv. The longest running drama is from 2012. Also Australia used to have 40 episode drama seasons which has since been reduced to 26, to 13 and now anything over 8 episodes is a rarity.
It's a problem as American dramas no longer rate and now the tv schedules are just useless filler. It's come about as the commercial networks push for reality tv which pushes dramas further back in the nightly schedule. Why have Masterchef on one night when it can be on five nights. Why have Survivor on one night when it can be on three nights. It's all about being cheap and extracting the most dollar out of everything. As local dramas cost they were the first to go. I should also mention that the local drama has been slashed as well due to networks paying exorbitant amounts for sports. The commercial networks that have purchased the sporting rights do so at a loss and think by having sport it will bring eyeballs to tv, but as you've witnessed with the dire H&A ratings that theory is BS.
Anyway Channel 7 that airs H&A has been in a mess since the Olympics. Everything has severely under performed, so it isn't just H&A. Though the future doesn't look particularly bright for either Channel 7 or H&A where 1 in 7 Australians now no longer watch commercial tv.
Originally Posted by sexy_princess:
“Yes. Australian networks aren't really interest in long running dramas any longer. It's all about stripped across the week reality tv. The longest running drama is from 2012. Also Australia used to have 40 episode drama seasons which has since been reduced to 26, to 13 and now anything over 8 episodes is a rarity.
It's a problem as American dramas no longer rate and now the tv schedules are just useless filler. It's come about as the commercial networks push for reality tv which pushes dramas further back in the nightly schedule. Why have Masterchef on one night when it can be on five nights. Why have Survivor on one night when it can be on three nights. It's all about being cheap and extracting the most dollar out of everything. As local dramas cost they were the first to go. I should also mention that the local drama has been slashed as well due to networks paying exorbitant amounts for sports. The commercial networks that have purchased the sporting rights do so at a loss and think by having sport it will bring eyeballs to tv, but as you've witnessed with the dire H&A ratings that theory is BS.
Anyway Channel 7 that airs H&A has been in a mess since the Olympics. Everything has severely under performed, so it isn't just H&A. Though the future doesn't look particularly bright for either Channel 7 or H&A where 1 in 7 Australians now no longer watch commercial tv.”
“Yes. Australian networks aren't really interest in long running dramas any longer. It's all about stripped across the week reality tv. The longest running drama is from 2012. Also Australia used to have 40 episode drama seasons which has since been reduced to 26, to 13 and now anything over 8 episodes is a rarity.
It's a problem as American dramas no longer rate and now the tv schedules are just useless filler. It's come about as the commercial networks push for reality tv which pushes dramas further back in the nightly schedule. Why have Masterchef on one night when it can be on five nights. Why have Survivor on one night when it can be on three nights. It's all about being cheap and extracting the most dollar out of everything. As local dramas cost they were the first to go. I should also mention that the local drama has been slashed as well due to networks paying exorbitant amounts for sports. The commercial networks that have purchased the sporting rights do so at a loss and think by having sport it will bring eyeballs to tv, but as you've witnessed with the dire H&A ratings that theory is BS.
Anyway Channel 7 that airs H&A has been in a mess since the Olympics. Everything has severely under performed, so it isn't just H&A. Though the future doesn't look particularly bright for either Channel 7 or H&A where 1 in 7 Australians now no longer watch commercial tv.”
I guess times change. In the 80's and 90's uk tv was awash with australian tv throughout the day but its very rare that australian drama makes it to ours screens, which is a shame.
Home and Away's highest ever rated Australian episode was when the stalker revealed herself to Sally in 2005
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“I don't remember that at all”
“I don't remember that at all
”
Kieran Fletcher, who Sally dumped at the alter? Sally brought him back from Ireland with her
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